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The Benghazi Lie - A failure of character of this magnitude corrodes the integrity of the state.
National Review Online ^ | May 10, 2013 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/10/2013 3:22:09 PM PDT by neverdem

Shortly before last November’s election I took part in a Fox News documentary on Benghazi, whose other participants included the former governor of New Hampshire John Sununu. Making chit-chat while the camera crew were setting up, Governor Sununu said to me that in his view Benghazi mattered because it was “a question of character.” That’s correct. On a question of foreign policy or counterterrorism strategy, men of good faith can make the wrong decisions. But a failure of character corrodes the integrity of the state...

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But, at the time Deputy Chief Hicks was calling 9-1-1 and getting executive-branch voicemail, nobody in Washington knew how long it would last. A terrorist attack isn’t like a soccer game, over in 90 minutes. If it is a sport, it’s more like a tennis match: Whether it’s all over in three sets or goes to five depends on how hard the other guy pushes back. The government of the United States took the extremely strange decision to lose in straight sets\...

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Where’s the “partisan politics”? Obama, Clinton, Panetta, Clapper, Rice, and the rest did this to one of their own. And fawning court eunuchs, like the ranking Democrat at the hearings, Elijah Cummings, must surely know that, if they needed, they’d do it to them, too. If you believe in politics über alles, it’s impressive, in the same way that Hillary’s cocksure dismissal — “What difference, at this point, does it make?” — is impressive.

But the embassy security chief, Eric Nordstrom, had the best answer to that: It matters because “the truth matters” — not least to the Libyan president, who ever since has held the U.S. government in utter contempt. Truth matters, and character matters. For the American people to accept the Obama-Clinton lie is to be complicit in it.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; hillary; libya; obama; waronterror
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To: FreedBird

“Some people even believe Ben Ghazi is some kind of t.v. show for entertainment.”

All the older folks remember Ben Gazzara! Great movie & TV star!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001262/

/s


41 posted on 05/10/2013 5:14:09 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: Chgogal

Plus, Darna (or Derna), just east of Benghazi has a history of supplying terrorists to Al Qaeda and elements from Egypt's Brotherhood seem to be infiltrating into Libya.

42 posted on 05/10/2013 5:18:05 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: neverdem

That’s been happening for a long time.


43 posted on 05/10/2013 5:20:03 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: FreedBird

Maybe the Clintons will turn on Obama before this is over.
They could send out Carville etc. to get the heat off of Hillary.

You mean Serpent Head?


44 posted on 05/10/2013 5:25:32 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (f)
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To: colorado tanker

Al Shabaab has been severely weakened in the last year or so. Kenya invaded from the south and Ethiopia invaded from the west driving them out of several strongholds. The Transitional Federal Government of Somalia has finally gotten off their collective rears and paid their soldiers instead of stealing all the money. With the support of several thousand African Union troops they have broken out of Mogadishu and recaptured extensive territory. Al Shabaab has also lost much funding with the large decrease in piracy in the last couple of years.

Al Qaeda in all its forms is still dangerous but that particular branch has had some setbacks.


45 posted on 05/10/2013 5:29:25 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Glad to hear it . . .


46 posted on 05/10/2013 5:31:01 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: neverdem
This needs to be kept front-of-mind when hearing the DemocRat's talking points about anything regarding Benghazi:

Issues:
1) the State Department had the necessary budget
2) wanted Benghazi to become a permanent consulate
3) it was 1 of only 15 sites out of 300 globally to be rated at the 2 highest levels
4) and MOST DAMNING - ignored multiple formal requests to bring it up to legal standards after multiple, serious security incidents

There are only 15 facilities around the world rated "high" or "critical" - out of almost 300. The Benghazi site was rated "critical" (the highest threat) and needed H.R. Clinton's authorization to operate it while at the officially documented, legally deficient state of security, before the attack.

H.R. Clinton told Stevens, presumably ordered by Obama, that this admin's goal was to make Benghazi a permanent consulate. But, career state department employees were threatened, and demoted, for using official channels to make basic requests for security before the mid-term election.

47 posted on 05/10/2013 5:35:55 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Thanks for the update on Al Shabaab.


48 posted on 05/10/2013 6:02:49 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Pan_Yan

What about the Qaddafi’s missing MANPADS?


49 posted on 05/10/2013 6:23:28 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama murdered the SEALs.They "were hung out to dry, basically exposed like a set of dog balls,...")
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To: 02slider
"To infer we would play politics with the death of 4 Americans is insulting"....

We knew from the beginning, but having it laid out here all so plain to see is the ultimate downer. Add the IRS targeting types like us.

He is a POS. That's "Piece. Of. Shit."

There is not a genuine bone in his body, nor an honest syllable out of his mouth. I would love to ask him if he sleeps well. Same question to Jay Carney.

They sacrificed trusted American lives for a few votes. POS ! Is it illegal to spit in his face?

50 posted on 05/10/2013 6:39:43 PM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: chiller

Can somebody please post the breaking stories on the arrest in the West fertilizer case.

http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/05/bryce-reed-texas-fertilizer-explosion/


51 posted on 05/10/2013 6:40:47 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: neverdem; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

PING!


52 posted on 05/10/2013 7:52:36 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: colorado tanker
To send “soldiers” on a “mission” to “fight” the “enemy” was at odds with the entire Obama narrative of the Arab Spring and the broader post-Bush Muslim world.

Obama believes in magical thinking. If he thinks something, it's true; if he denies something, it never happened. It's all a matter of how it's presented, in his mind.

He thinks that if he changes the names of things, this act changes their reality: no more terrorism, simply man-caused disasters. And Fort Hood was "workplace violence."

His sympathies are with the Muslims, no matter what, and he thinks that if he just goes on denying the reality of Muslim violence and terrorism, it will all go away.

He really thinks that if there is no retaliation for anything, ranging from attacks on US facilities abroad to individual terrorist attacks here (the Fort Hood Muslim terrorist, Major Hassan, still hasn't come to trial), everything will be wonderful and the Muslims will love us and know that we're on their side.

And he has given such a message of weakness and passivity (or even sympathy with terrorist aims) that, as you say, we are being set up for something really, really bad very soon.

53 posted on 05/11/2013 2:38:57 AM PDT by livius
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To: 02slider
“If Sen. McCain and Sen. Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me,” Obama said, adding: “When they go after the U.N. ambassador apparently because they think she’s an easy target, then they’ve got a problem with me.”

Okay Obozo, why was the U.N. ambassador the one YOU hung out? Was because she filled two minority slots and you didn't think anyone would dare to question her?

Why was Hitllary conspicuously absent? Wouldn't it have made more sense for a high ranking department of State official to be the one to present the information? Or is it that you and Hitllary did not her as being the one on the record with these lies?

54 posted on 05/11/2013 4:37:34 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: FreedBird

Hillary and Obama - the two criminals - will turn on each other. Or has that already happened? Did Carney through Hillary under the bus yesterday? Hillary WILL fight back. Might get more interesting. Hillary will win.


55 posted on 05/11/2013 5:13:36 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Mean Maryjean

The reason is the same,attention,it was not a consulate,they called it a diplomatic facility,it was a house in a residential area,you bring in marines an start making this a secure compound people are going go want to know why,what are you doing there,in addition Hillary made a visit there and stated she wanted to make it a consulate,but when you do that there are rules about how the facility has to be built,mainly security for the people there,especially an impenetrable room for the ambassador for cases just like this,They told her many times they needed the security,she refused,if you want an answer to the why,that’s where it is,ask her what the ambassador was doing in a hot bed of al-Qaeda with no security,you won’t get an answer in public because it was illegal what they were doing and they will say it is classified,but if I have known for months what was going on there then everyone in Washington knows,someone has to have the balls who is in a position of power to just say it,but that will open Pandora box and I don’t even think republicans want to do that,they are satisfied with getting them on the cover-up,but thinking people like you will just have to be frustrated like the rest of us,for example,when was the last time you heard about fast and furious? WHY?


56 posted on 05/11/2013 8:02:49 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: abclily

What ever happened to finding the truth? Hillary and Obama can both blame someone else. The Democrat Party controlled Media will play cover up. They are all in bed together! They will soon change the subject sweeping this under the bed.


57 posted on 05/11/2013 8:06:02 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: ballplayer

Thank you.


58 posted on 05/11/2013 8:06:45 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: abclily

throw


59 posted on 05/11/2013 8:26:00 AM PDT by abclily
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To: livius
Obama believes in magical thinking. If he thinks something, it's true; if he denies something, it never happened

I completely agree. That's why, to him, his opponents don't just disagree with him, they are "liars."

It's scary for America. He really thinks his policy toward Iran, a total failure for the last 5 years, will work. Which means we will soon have a nuclear Iran.

He really thinks he can just withdraw American troops from Iraq and Afghanistan with no consequences. But there will be big time consequences and the squander of much precious US blood and resources.

60 posted on 05/13/2013 9:58:18 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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