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Congresswoman: Benghazi Stand Down Order Came From Obama
Freedom Outpost ^ | May 10, 2013 | Tim Brown

Posted on 05/10/2013 3:30:27 PM PDT by EXCH54FE

Congresswoman and former United States Ambassador to Luxembourg Ann Wagner (R-MO) appeared on The Dana Loesch show and placed the blame, of the stand down order to those that could have offered assistance to Americans under attack, on none other than Barack Obama.

Loesch asked Wagner, “Because you have been an ambassador, you have been overseas with similar responsibilities and similar missions – who gives such an order to stand down? Where does that come from?”

“The President of the United States,” the Missouri congresswoman affirmed.

As top diplomat in Libya Gregory Hicks testified to on Wednesday before the House Oversight Committee, “The Libyans that I talked to, and the Libyans and other Americans who were involved in the war have told me also, that Libyan revolutionaries were very cognizant of the impact that American and NATO airpower had with respect to their victory.”

“They are under no illusions that American and NATO airpower won that war for them,” Hicks continued. “And so, in my personal opinion, a fast mover flying over Benghazi at some point, you know, as soon as possible might very well have prevented some of the bad things that happened that night.”

He went on to add, “if we had been able to scramble a fighter or aircraft or two over Benghazi as quickly as possible after the attack commenced” — around 9:30 that night — “I believe there would not have been a mortar attack on the annex in the morning because I believe the Libyans would have split. They would have been scared to death that we would have gotten a laser on them and killed them.”

In fact, Hicks suggested that the Libyans would have granted the US permission to fly their planes directly over their airspace. “If we had been able to scramble a fighter or aircraft or two over Benghazi as quickly as possible after the attack commenced. I believe there would not have been a mortar attack on the annex in the morning because I believe the Libyans would have split. They would have been scared to death that we would have gotten a laser on them and killed them.”

Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) said that personnel “may not have arrived in time to save lives, but at the time the decision was made, the decision was wrong.”

Representative Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), a member of the committee also said that “military personnel were ready willing and able, and within proximity, but the Pentagon told them they had no authority and to stand down.”

I wrote back at the end of October of the reports coming out that there were calls for “military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.”

We know from testimony this week that Defense Secretary Leon Panetta’s statement that “The U.S. military did not get involved during the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, last month because officials did not have enough information about what was going on before the attack was over” was not true. They did know. They knew in real time. There was no way they would not have known, but Panetta testified that Obama was simply absent on the night of the Benghazi attacks. In fact, the White House received several emails indicating what was going on and yet Obama would not authorize any help.

While Chris Stevens was appointed as a diplomat to Libya in 2007 under President George W. Bush, he was named ambassador under Barack Obama. Now stop and think about that for a moment. If Obama will just let one of his appointees, a U.S. ambassador, die at the hands of Islamists, how much do you think he cares about American citizens? I’m guessing not too much.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: annwager; benghazi; benghaziattack; benghazicoverup; benghazidebacle; benghaziscandal; libya; obama; obamageddon; waronterror
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Over and over, this comes back to one person, Barack Hussein Obama. He is the one that over and over in his first days in office had to beat the drum that he was the “Commander-in-chief” and don’t you people forget it! Well, I say Mr. Obama needs to own up to his dereliction of duty, which resulted in the deaths of four Americans.
1 posted on 05/10/2013 3:30:27 PM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

It would have been Valarie Jarrett who would have given the order.


2 posted on 05/10/2013 3:32:46 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: EXCH54FE
They didn't just leave them to die...

The WH cut FEST out.

Someone told the Tripoli team led by Lt. Colonel Gibson to stand down.

Hillary cut the State Dept.'s counterterrorism bureau out of the loop.

They tried to make sure they all died.

3 posted on 05/10/2013 3:34:02 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Jonah Goldberg said it well......

A little girl was drowning at the beach and the lifeguards were ordered to stay in their chairs.....


4 posted on 05/10/2013 3:34:07 PM PDT by GotMojo
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To: EXCH54FE

dont give him any respect by the honorific mr crap he doesnt deserve anything but derision scorn and a cell in leavenworth


5 posted on 05/10/2013 3:35:13 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Jonty30

Then the both have American blood on their hands...


6 posted on 05/10/2013 3:35:45 PM PDT by Shady (Libya shows us how Americans rate...)
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To: EXCH54FE

He said he would stand with his muzzie brothers against America and he PROVED IT! America hating muslim scumbag.


7 posted on 05/10/2013 3:35:53 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: GotMojo

In SanFran, First responders were ordered to not save a suicidal drowning man as it was too dangerous about a year back. The man succeeded in killing himself.


8 posted on 05/10/2013 3:36:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: EXCH54FE

Dereliction Of Duty AND Abuse of Power!

He has abused his power by his cover up and using his executive branches of government to assist in the cover up and lies to the American people.


9 posted on 05/10/2013 3:36:38 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Absolutely!


10 posted on 05/10/2013 3:37:23 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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11 posted on 05/10/2013 3:38:07 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Shady

Yes they do.


12 posted on 05/10/2013 3:38:25 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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13 posted on 05/10/2013 3:39:03 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: penelopesire

Glenn Beck said the ambassador was sodomized before his death. Why wasn’t this mentioned in the hearing?


14 posted on 05/10/2013 3:39:47 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: longfellow

Obama was asleep @ the wheel Valerie issued the order!
Is what happens when you have a female running the country! And people want Hillary? Geeze Might as well lower the Flag now and maybe take on the Cuban Flag! They knew what to to do during the Bay of Pigs, another failed Demo Pres failure!
Oops can I trash the God of all Democrats! Camelot will frown on the boy!


15 posted on 05/10/2013 3:40:35 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Jonty30

It was “politically inconvenient”.
“Broken Arrow”. Jarrett made the call.
Now it stinks.


16 posted on 05/10/2013 3:40:51 PM PDT by deep trout
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To: Norm Lenhart

I remember, difference there is that it was for the safety of the firefighters! I doubt, Obama had any concern for the SpecOps.....


17 posted on 05/10/2013 3:41:51 PM PDT by GotMojo
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To: EXCH54FE

He said he’d stand with the muslims. I don’t see why anyone would be surprised that he let them carry out an attack.


18 posted on 05/10/2013 3:43:44 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: EXCH54FE

but WHY????....


19 posted on 05/10/2013 3:43:46 PM PDT by cherry
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To: FreedBird

I don’t know why but could just be too horrible to bring up in open forum. It should be put in the record though so that people understand the nature of the animals we are dealing with and how these are the people that Obama wants ‘normalization’ with and defends at every opportunity.


20 posted on 05/10/2013 3:43:59 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

where are the patriots?.....there has got to be America loving patriots somewhere in this cockamamie govt.....even rats have some, supposedly...


21 posted on 05/10/2013 3:44:41 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Conserev1

Or was bathhouse barry w/ reggie love?


22 posted on 05/10/2013 3:45:25 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: longfellow

I posted the same thing before I read down far enough to read your post!


23 posted on 05/10/2013 3:47:02 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: penelopesire; MestaMachine

Time to check the log of who/when guests came and left the WH that night


24 posted on 05/10/2013 3:47:16 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: cherry

Sounds like they are starting to come forward.....more to come.


25 posted on 05/10/2013 3:47:43 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Quickgun

I am not kidding, I really think this is why no one is asking.


26 posted on 05/10/2013 3:48:00 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: penelopesire

But Obama finds it easy to tell a homosexual basketball player he is a hero. It seems an ambassador being raped would sicken even an extremist liberal.


27 posted on 05/10/2013 3:48:16 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: Jonty30

Most likely it _was_ Jarrett. However, she has no official, elected status and functions only as a shadow regent. Any official order must have been done in zer0’s name. zer0 must take any responsibility for her actions or he would have to publicly admit that he has delegated authority to a political operative with no Constitutional validity.

IMO, that would be far more politically damaging to him than simply accepting responsibility for incompetence.

This is where hubris bites.


28 posted on 05/10/2013 3:48:41 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: hoosiermama

I am sure someone has it...hopefully, because by now, they have probably changed it if anything looks amiss.

I don’t trust those logs anyway...not with this bunch.


29 posted on 05/10/2013 3:49:32 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: EXCH54FE

~~~Congresswoman: Benghazi Stand Down Order Came From Obama ~~~

Yes, I’m certain of that as well.


30 posted on 05/10/2013 3:50:26 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: cherry

Was Stevens and Co not truly going along with the secret policy of arming the Syrian rebels who are made up of our enemies?


31 posted on 05/10/2013 3:50:28 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: GotMojo

And Obama claims it was an unknown situation volatile and too dangerous to send in military...same excuse.


32 posted on 05/10/2013 3:51:37 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: EXCH54FE

Zero was pulled out of a cocaine induced stupor to order the stand down.


33 posted on 05/10/2013 3:52:30 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: EXCH54FE
Nothing to see here, just move on...


34 posted on 05/10/2013 3:52:46 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: GotMojo
A little girl was drowning at the beach and the lifeguards were ordered to stay in their chairs.....

...because the Mayor had insisted that he had personally killed the head shark, the rest were no threat now, and the water was no longer dangerous thanks to his heroics. The sight of lifeguards in motion would have made him look like a fool, so he decided to let the girl drown and blame her death on dolphins that were mad about tuna nets. :)

35 posted on 05/10/2013 3:52:47 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: FreedBird

If babies being ripped to shreds and having their throats cut in the Gosnell abortions doesn’t faze these liberals, what makes you think that a man getting sodomized by a bunch of savages will sicken them?

These people have no souls anymore.


36 posted on 05/10/2013 3:52:50 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: EXCH54FE

U.S. Constitution:

“Section 4 - Disqualification
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”

Webster`s dictionary 1887: “high... 8. of great importance; first; chief; ...b. GRAVE; serious; as a HIGH CRIME”
[my caps]

Obummer should be impeached because he sent these brave men to the GRAVE.


37 posted on 05/10/2013 3:54:43 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: longfellow

38 posted on 05/10/2013 3:54:54 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: longfellow

All I know is they were all in the situation room glued to a
moniter when Osama was killed but where were theses same people when at least 4 hrs went by (just an estimate I think more like 7 hrs!) They all could not be summoned to participate! where is that coveted WH potographer on this night!
Hell they could have at least tried to fake it! The White House was as Black as the resident that night no activity!
Obama did not Know what the hell was goin on until daylight and prob could not still be disturbed for packin his shit for Vegas! We may not ever see Judgemet on this slime but God will suffice!


39 posted on 05/10/2013 3:55:04 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Daffynition

they think we are deaf dumb and blind but do you smell what the crock is cooking


40 posted on 05/10/2013 3:55:23 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: EXCH54FE
Obama did not talk to his Sec Def after 5 pm.

So where was the CIC later when all the junk was taking place?

I hope Congress will be hard after him for his schedule for that day.

I don't know why he could claim the schedule is classified and can't be released to the public...he should have simply been meeting/talking to advisors, etc. There should be nothing secret there...or is there?

41 posted on 05/10/2013 3:55:25 PM PDT by what's up
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To: FreedBird

It’s not true.

Locals found the ambassador and honestly tried to save him by taking him to the hospital.

Everyone in Benghazi is not a whacked out jihadi. Most appreciated the US efforts to get rid of Qaddafi.


42 posted on 05/10/2013 3:56:38 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: EXCH54FE

43 posted on 05/10/2013 3:58:13 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Jonty30
Hillary vs. Obama, I put my money on the Clintonista.

Imagine.......Fighting over cowardess and abandonment credentials.

Democrats deserve so much better.

44 posted on 05/10/2013 4:00:35 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Who else had the authority to order the senior military officer in Tripoli to stand down, and then order the two former Navy SEALS who were already in Benghazi to stand down as well?


45 posted on 05/10/2013 4:00:55 PM PDT by RavenATB
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To: MestaMachine

He froze, he knew what was going on, he couldn’t make a decision.

I hope this comes out and this is pinned down to a reasonable doubt for someone that isn’t a wing nut.

This is the same man that took months to make other similar decisions.


46 posted on 05/10/2013 4:00:57 PM PDT by dila813
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To: EXCH54FE

Obama living up to his reputation.


47 posted on 05/10/2013 4:01:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Jonty30

“It would have been Valerie Jarrett who would have given the order.”

I agree, because Barry is just the White House Mascot.

(maybe it’s time to change my tagline from soros to valerie jarrette.)


48 posted on 05/10/2013 4:02:05 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: EXCH54FE

O’LENIN DID NOT HAVE TO GIVE A STAND DOWN ORDER.Because reaction would be across a national border he had to give the order to go. B not giving the order , he just went t o bed, our assets could not be used. Any commander who started to act must be told to stand down by his commander if no go order has come from the president. That does not, however explain why the men in Tripoli were called back. It was two already in Lybia who defied the “stand down” to hustle to Benghazi ans, at the cost of their own lives, rescued 30 people.


49 posted on 05/10/2013 4:02:52 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Royal Wulff

What if a tape exists showing the truth? The White House seems in panic mode. They held an off the record press conference with their Democratic Media Drones.


50 posted on 05/10/2013 4:03:09 PM PDT by FreedBird
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