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Desperation: Police Chief Turns to Town Citizens for Ammunition Amid Nationwide Shortages
SHTF ^ | May 10th, 2013 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 05/11/2013 7:38:58 AM PDT by True Grit

The Department of Homeland Security may be in possession of nearly two billion rounds of ammunition, but despite claiming it’s being stockpiled for the safety of Americans, they’re not sharing.

The shortages of popular ammunition rounds has made it difficult for average citizens to acquire most calibers of ammunition through regular retail channels, but the empty shelves don’t stop there.

Police departments across the country are scarmbling to find ammunition for training and enforcement, and they’re being told that the delays for delivery are 6 – 8 months.

This prompted Proctor, Minnesota police chief Walt Wobig to send out a call for help:

The Chief says he was told he’d have to wait months, even a year to get more ammo.

“I was really surprised, let’s just put it that way,” said Chief Walt Wobig of the difficulty getting ammunition.

Woberg says that when he asked suppliers for the 1,000 rounds of ammo his officers needed for training, he was told he’d have to wait months.

“I go, ‘Do you have 40–caliber qualification rounds?’ And they go, ‘Well, no. It’s going to take six to eight months [to get them],’” said Wobig of a conversation with a manufacturer.

Retailers say the nationwide shortage is due in part to people stockpiling ammunition in response to recently proposed gun legislation.

“It was getting a little short last fall, so they were already behind, but there definitely is panic,” said Superior Shooters Supply owner, Pat Kukull of the shortage, “We’ve [the store] been here for 35 years and I’ve never seen anything like it.”

With the Proctor Police Department in need of ammunition, the Chief sent out a call asking for help. Who answered? The very people his officers are sworn to protect.

“The citizens were like, ‘If you need something, we got plenty here,’” said Wobig.

A citizen and a Proctor police officer loaned their personal ammunition to the Department, a total of 1,500 rounds. The Chief says others were willing to help too.

“I had several other calls from other citizens that said, ‘Hey, if you need more ammunition we have plenty,’” said Woberg, “I know that if I need ammunition I have citizens out there that will gladly come forward.”

Ammunition shortages are nothing new since gun control proponents have threatened the Second Amendment with multi-faceted legislation on state and federal levels that aims to reduce gun ownership, restrict the exchange of gun accessories, and even targets ammunition as an explosive device that needs to be regulated.

While the media claims that the shortage is due in part to individuals stockpiling larger quantities, it completely fails to mention the stockpiling of multiple billions of rounds by the government itself.

Were these DHS stockpiles being acquired for the protection of Americans and the homeland, wouldn’t it make sense that local police departments around the country should be able to turn to the agency instead of local citizens for help?

Once again, the massive stockpiling by the federal government is suspect. Does the government expect some sort of widespread event that will require this ammunition be brought into service, perhaps like the economic collapse and civil unrest scenarios they’ve been war-gaming? Or, are they, as Senator Jim Inhofe recently suggested, hoarding ammunition intentionally as a way to attack the Second Amendment by reducing availability on the free market?


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KEYWORDS: guncontrol; secondamendment
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1 posted on 05/11/2013 7:38:58 AM PDT by True Grit
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To: True Grit

DH”S” plans to release another 20,000 felons,
armed presumably this time?


2 posted on 05/11/2013 7:40:12 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: True Grit

They are “requesting” it. I guess we are still in stage 1.


3 posted on 05/11/2013 7:43:22 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: True Grit

Just out of curiosity....usually the Chinese are right on top of any shortage, and flood the market to take advantage of shortages (Tonka toys, fake undergarments, 22-hour energy drinks, and lawn mower wax).

Why haven’t they jumped in with shiploads of ammo to the west coast? It would seem logical that they’d bring in a thousand extra employees....run twenty-four hours a day, and just ship out 2,000 pallets a week of ammo, and get rich off desperate Americans.


4 posted on 05/11/2013 7:49:48 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: True Grit

Remind people, Hitler disarmed the people, millions died in the concentration camps as a result. And that included Christians as well as Jews.


5 posted on 05/11/2013 7:51:24 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: lonevoice

This is getting more and more ominous.


6 posted on 05/11/2013 8:03:53 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: True Grit

They shouldn’t turn to the citizenry first. Instead they appeal to the state government to create a “business climate preferential to ammunition manufacturers who set up production in the state, solely for sale and use in the state.”

1) Some or all for a fixed number of years: Property and state income tax abatement, a flat rate sales tax for their entire production, sales tax abatement for equipment and supplies produced and procured in state, as well as sales of their ammunition.

2) Purchase preferences for state and local agencies, to encourage them to buy their ammo from this or these companies.

3) Add on value by offering a higher price for high quality ammo, as well as for ammo in long term storage packaging.

There are lots of incentives to convince businesses to either relocate or start a new business in a state, which makes that state far less vulnerable to shortages.


7 posted on 05/11/2013 8:05:01 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: pepsionice
"Just out of curiosity....usually the Chinese are right on top of any shortage, and flood the market to take advantage of shortages...Why haven’t they jumped in with shiploads of ammo to the west coast?"

I'd file the answer to the question under, "Be Careful What You Wish For":

(Click the pic for the whole story)


8 posted on 05/11/2013 8:11:22 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: True Grit

PD, “Are you sure you can spare this much? Do you have enough left for yourself?”
“Sure, I have plenty!”
“Very interesting...”


9 posted on 05/11/2013 8:12:43 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: True Grit

PD, “Are you sure you can spare this much? Do you have enough left for yourself?”
“Sure, I have plenty!”
“Very interesting...”


10 posted on 05/11/2013 8:12:44 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: True Grit

Where do they store two billion rounds of ammunition?

The old Joliet arsenal was 35 square miles???


11 posted on 05/11/2013 8:13:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: True Grit

Something doesn’t add up for sure. How can this be happening? The most powerful nation on the planet can’t produce enough bullets for police? Oh, and then they “ask” for help, people gladly submit their bullets without fuss.

...neat way of disarming the population. Does anybody think this won’t continue?

IT IS AN END-AROUND THE 2ND AMENDMENT.


12 posted on 05/11/2013 8:26:24 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: pepsionice

Maybe the Chinese don’t want their future property full of bullet holes.


13 posted on 05/11/2013 8:27:17 AM PDT by wesley s
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To: True Grit

I’m not sure what ticks the Chief off more: Not being able to get ammo, or not being able to bump civilians out of the way to get ammo.


14 posted on 05/11/2013 8:32:01 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Joe 6-pack; pepsionice
That incident is well known. It's an IL 629 Smith and Wesson and the owner used reloads that had been double charged. Double charge is when the reloader loses track of which case he's loading, is using a fast burning powder, and the volume of the powder is small. So small that when looking down into the case, he can't tell there are actually two charges.

He touched of that first round and blew up the gun.

But that picture has been circulating gun boards for years as the fault of the chinese. False.

15 posted on 05/11/2013 8:39:41 AM PDT by LouAvul (?)
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To: True Grit
Chief Wobig is waybig...

But man, he's got the lingo down...

“I go, ‘Do you have 40–caliber qualification rounds?’ And they go...

“The citizens were like

16 posted on 05/11/2013 8:45:11 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron. No, they are both.)
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To: raybbr

You posted exactly what I was about to. Glad I checked.


17 posted on 05/11/2013 9:11:31 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: SampleMan

and now they have names of people who have it for stage two.


18 posted on 05/11/2013 10:05:23 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: raybbr

Is it just me but doesn’t he look like Chief Wiggams from the Simpsons?


19 posted on 05/11/2013 10:07:00 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: pepsionice

chinese ammo imports were stopped by Klinton.


20 posted on 05/11/2013 10:09:00 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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