Skip to comments.Voting present on Bengazi - What if there was no “order to stand down?”
Posted on 05/11/2013 5:25:37 PM PDT by black_diamond
What if the personnel responding to the assistance requested by those on the ground in Bengazi on September 11, 2012, were assembled and loaded on transports, just waiting for the green light from Washington and then no green light came from Washington? Not a no go, but no go or no go.
How could that be? We have a President who cannot make a tough decision, hell it took him several tries before he could give the OK to launch the bin Laden raid, so it is entirely possible that he made no decision (voted present) on the request from Bengazi. That would give him the ability (plausible deniability) to say he did not give the order to stand down. Then someone in the chain of command, after waiting and waiting for the order to launch eventually realized that it was not coming and then used the term stand down to tell those who were assembled and ready to return to their pre-alert status (go home). Just a thought. What do you think?
My guess is that it’s plausible that he didn’t give the order, but the order came nevertheless.
My assumption is partly based on the idea that the military will do what it thinks best, if no contrary order is given otherwise.
The Lt. Col. was VERY specific and if he did not think he understood it, he would have asked again. PLus an order like that was not a no or go it is specifically engage or stand down. There is no wiggle room in that order.
I think somebody gave the order to stand down. Woods, Doherty, and five CIA officers essentially hijacked a jet in Tripoli to get there. Th ltCol was furious because he knew they were ordered not to go.
I seem to remember it was Sec. Defense that launched the Benghazi raid and then called Obama on the Golf Course and told him it was on.
I understand Valerie Jarrett shat herself when she found out.
Lt Gen. Thomas McInerney: There Is Only One Person Who Can Say, Stand Down And Thats The President
entirely possible...I hope we can find out in the next round of hearings. There’s lots to learn on many fronts - stand down order, talking points revisions, demotion of Hicks, who pushed the video, who’s hiding the victims and why, who denied multiple requests for embassy security, where was Obama during critical period etc.
I’m sure there are others......I hope someone can list and publish a comprehensive list of unanswered questions.
Whether he did or not, he should have been in control and not allowed someone to give that order. It was his responsibility to make sure our Ambassador and staff got the security they needed.
“Mr President, we have American Citizens in harm’s way in Benghazzi. Do we have your permission to try and save their lives?”
Any answer, or non-answer, other than “Permission Granted” demands an explanation to the families of those lost, and to the American people.
We know that, but we also know that Obama wanted the glory of the Presidency, but none of the responsibility.
He’s the President, but he’s not in control.
The overwhelming theory here is that Valerie Jarrett overrode the President's authority (who himself did not issue an order...just waffled, waiting for Valerie's order)
The retired Special Operations General on Huckabee tonight said he expects the hearings will disclose a breakdown in the chain of command. He’s been there, done that, and his speculation is probably better than most anyones.
This is purely MY speculation (which isn’t worth anything) but suppose Obama wouldn’t make a decision (ala a repeat of his 6 months to study option for Afghanistan). Given his tendency to fiddle around, it could be a failure to act rather than a direct order not to.
Standdown orders have to come thr prez.
Damned scary to think this MASCOT of the White House has his finger on THE button...or, maybe he doesn’t.
He probably gave the responsibility of the n-clear football to the “Iranian of the Day”!
(OOOOPS! It’s been scrubbed! Whaddaya know?)
He is an affirmative action president. He needn’t be in charge at all times...only in those times in which race and social justice are called into question.
I was watching the attack on the consultate in the days after it happened and the news station had a tape and I heard “Stand down” supposedly on a tape. I usually watch FOX but I have no idea which news it was on. I realize this qualifies as a rumor, but I know what I heard.
Ted Cruz has some good questions:
But many more questions remain. Here are a dozen:
Why was the State Department unwilling to provide the requested level of security to Benghazi?
Were there really no military assets available to provide relief during the seven hours of the attacks? If so, why not? During the attacks, were any military assets ordered to stand down?
If the chairman of the Joint Chiefs thought there was no question this was a coordinated terrorist attack, why did Ambassador Susan Rice, Secretary Clinton, and President Obama all tell the American people that the cause was a spontaneous demonstration about an Internet video?
Why did the State Department edit the intelligence talking points to delete the references to Islamic extremists and al Qaida?
Why did the FBI release pictures of militants taken the day of the attack only eight months after the fact? Why not immediately, as proved so effective in the Boston bombing?
Why have none of the survivors testified to Congress?
Why is the administration apparently unaware of the whistle-blowers who have been attempting to tell their stories? Is it true that these career civil servants have been threatened with retaliation?
Did President Obama sleep the night of September 11, 2012? Did Secretary Clinton?
When was President Obama told about the murder of our ambassador? About the murder of all four Americans? What did he do in response?
What role, if any, did the State Departments own counterterrorism office play during the attacks and in their immediate aftermath?
Why was Secretary Clinton not interviewed for the ARB report?
And why, if all relevant questions were answered in the ARB report, has the State Departments own inspector-general office opened a probe into the methods of that very report?
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