Skip to comments.Statement To Muslims? Pope Francis To Canonize 800 Martyrs Murdered By Ottoman Turks
Posted on 05/12/2013 6:07:40 AM PDT by markomalley
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The story about this picture is that a tailor in the town of Otranto, Antonio Primaldo, was the first one to be beheaded...while standing up. Despite the muzzies best efforts to knock him over, he remained standing until the last of the 800 to be martyred that day were murdered.
He will be criticized for it. The leftist/media complex has been silent about him. Now they think they have found something and will dump on him for not respecting the bearded savages.
That's like saying "Highlighting the sore on someone's face must be viewed within the context of still fragile ties between that person and melanoma".
Well, that's not really very hard to do...
I hope the muzzies take this for what it is....a slap in their bearded face....
>murder all men above the age of 15 for refusing their demands to convert to Islam
A better plan may have been to humor the islamosickos and then hook up with an army to wipe out these muslim scum. The effort to eliminate islam terror should have been sustained until it completed the mission.
Pope is sending message to the Muslims that “Islamofasim” is FUTLE.
You need to look up the word "Dhimmi"
Not really accurate. The Ottomans actually captured Otranto, and the King of Naples and allies eventually recaptured it, though with the Turks surrendering on terms they were allowed to sail away.
The Otranto attack was a very small affair compared to the full weight of Ottoman resources. There is little or no evidence that the attack on Otranto was the intended start of a full-scale formal invasion of Italy.
Though conquest of Italy was obviously a long-term objective of the Turks.
What about 1.2 million Armenians killed by The Turk? They were killed the old fashioned way, starvation and the sabre. The Turk didn’t even use guns because guns were expensive and unnecessary, as the Armenians had already been subjected to rigorous gun control measures.
Call it any name that fits, but the goal is to stay alive long enough to defeat those that would enslave you. Subterfuge and convince your enemy you are one of them until you can bury the blade into their heart.
History tells us that's a very poor strategy...rarely works...
Especially with Islam...
Pope is sending message to the Muslims...
Too bad they don’t know how to read.
This was 5 centuries ago. There were only about 500 of the men in Otranto and they withstood a seige for about 2 weeks, giving the King of Naples time to assemble a force.
“There is little or no evidence that the attack on Otranto was the intended start of a full-scale formal invasion of Italy.”
Who are you reading? Might want to ask the Knight of Malta about that one...
On a practical note, the Vatican should organize, and provide lesser diplomatic credentials to an advisory organization that would travel to oppressed Christian groups around the world, teaching them how to protect themselves from their oppressors.
They would give them common sense advice and counsel, help to redesign their towns and buildings to make attacks much harder, teach unarmed self defense and techniques to avoid conflict. They could also provide secretly some emergency communications equipment, so that they can call for international help, including evacuation, if the situation really gets out of control.
Much of this would be semi-covert, with a cover story of some economic development and medical care, both of which would be included as secondary support.
Even in the short term, this could save thousands of lives, as well as precious religious artifacts, and be a huge boost to the morale of the oppressed peoples.
The Otranto attack was a large-scale raid. If fully successful, it might very well have been followed up with an invasion.
But no attempt was made to reinforce the Ottoman garrison, probably because the Sultan died and as usual there was squabbling over the succession.
No further attempt was made to invade the Italian mainland, other than coastal raids to plunder and capture slaves.
I doubt that all this will have any effect on the bearded savages.
Just another event for them to high-5 each other for a job well done like they did openly on American university campusses on 9/11/2001.
So the invasion wasn’t successful because the Sultan was killed? Doesn’t sound like a raid to me.
When faced with death, any strategy is better than none. Humor the islamists and say you converted while staying alive long enough to do some damage to them or escape. The option of beheading is not acceptable.
Matt 5:11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Matt 16:25 "For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it."
All good words, but when it comes down to losing your head or lying to your captors, there is only one choice.
As for me....I would rather face death than deny Christ...like these brave Italians....
I would die on my feet then be a Dhimmi on my knees...
But to each his own....
Telling a muzzy what they need to hear to stay alive and fight another day does not necessitate denying Christ. Ones faith and beliefs do not evaporate when you do what you need to survive.
....Yet they sure know how to work with the high tech stuff!
Pope Francis has sent a message to to the Muslims and the left in that, try as they do, the MORE Christian martyrs you make, the more Christians you have!
Yet those two Boston bombers sure knew how to “sturf” the internet on how ot make pressure cooker bombers.
This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim's complete acceptance of and total commitment to Islam.
I understand you position, but by accepting Islam you say the "Shahadah" you are denying Christ...and accepting the tenets of Islam..
Matthew 10:33 - But whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.
Allah is not Jehovah...or Yahweh...
This was announced by Pope Benedict before he announced his retirement. I’m glad that Pope Francis is carrying through with it (I assume he could have called it off if he had wanted to).
Telling or reciting anything in front of some muslim scumbag has no lasting effect. These are not men or anything considered a witness to anything except mayhem and hate. Whatever one has to say before these islamist creeps holds no title or respect. Allow them to believe whatever it takes to escape their vile worship and ways.
No worthy entity will condemn one for dealing with scum as they need to be for survival.
To each his own..
And if you are a true follower of Christ the choice is easy. I'm surprised there is any conversation on this point.
You are advocating openly denying the Savior to save your own skin...at the peril of your soul. You're kidding yourself if you see it any other way. One cannot deny Jesus with a wink and a nudge to make it into something else. To follow Christ we need to emulate Christ, correct? At what point did Jesus say "I'm just kidding folks...I'm not the Messiah. Just a joke." That's what you're advocating.
It’s called survival. When dealing with someone trying to kill you, lying to your captors is not a concern. Yourself, your faith and your Deity will know the truth. Forfeiting your life for spoken words makes any future words meaningless.
Telling some islamo nutcase what he wants to hear is no worse than telling a dog you won’t kill it when he takes his teeth out of you so you can reach your weapon.
Say what one likes about the Pope, his job isn’t to build good relations or “relate” (as we used to say) to Muslims.
Someone amoung the elites who a running this world need to wake up to the threat of modern, jihadist, Islam.
Obama already lost Egypt, the worst is yet to come.
Lying to some stinking islamist is considered denying Christ? That makes absolutely no sense at all. Perhaps I missed the edict where being honest with a pack of jihadist muslim whackjobs paves the road to heaven.
Much better to mislead the cretins and whack them when they least expect it. islamists do not have your best interests in mind and deserve no honesty from decent humans.
Ain’t nobody calling me down no path when it come to common sense survival. There is no hope for satanic islamists and no sacrifice will sway those that worship the pedophile prophet. Heathen is too good of a title for the evil that would threaten death unto those that will not follow them.
I'm not catholic, but cudos to the Pope for annoying the cultist bastards.
The Catholics were brutally slaughtered by the Moslems.
They deserve to be canonized.
The martyrs were all beheaded for refusing to convert.
Where have I heard this before?
Did that sound harsh? I hope so.
” But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown before my Father in heaven.” — Jesus
If you’re a Christian, you have no choice.
It was written in the Quran that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet [Mohammed] were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave, and that every Muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise . . .LINK
I’m with you all the way.