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Robert Gates: Obama made right decisions night of Benghazi attack
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 05/12/2013 | By Brad Knickerbocker

Posted on 05/12/2013 12:54:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Obama administration got some backing Sunday for the way in which it responded as terrorists attacked the US diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, last September – a night of violence and confusion during which Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed.

Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, a Republican who served in both the Bush and Obama administrations, said if he had been at the Pentagon at that time, "Frankly … I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were.”

Republican critics have said a Special Forces team or overflights by fighter aircraft based in Italy might have prevented the US losses or at least frightened off the attackers. Mr. Gates disagrees.

Such actions, he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday, “without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on the ground, would have been very dangerous."

"It's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces," Gates said, referring to morning-after analysis. "The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time to do that."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; gates; idiotalert; idiots; kenyanbornmuzzie; liars; libya; losers; obama; robertgates; stuckonstupid; twits; waronterror
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1 posted on 05/12/2013 12:54:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

To go to bed?


2 posted on 05/12/2013 12:55:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

SEE ALSO HERE:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/12/robert-gates-i-would-have-made-the-same-decisions-during-benghazi-attack/

ROBERT GATES: I WOULD HAVE MADE THE SAME DECISIONS DURING BENGHAZI ATTACK

EXCERPT:

... there wasn’t time to reach the American compound during the attack.

“I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were,” Gates said Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” noting that he hasn’t been briefed on the situation by U.S. officials and has only followed the developments through media reports.

He said the U.S. doesn’t have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, so “getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible.”

As for the option of sending even a single fighter jet to try to “scare” the attackers, Gates said that was impossible because of the danger of surface-to-air missiles.

“I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft over Benghazi in those circumstances,” he said.

It also wasn’t feasible to send in any special forces units, Gates said.

“Based on everything I read, people didn’t really know what was going on in Benghazi contemporaneously,” he said. “To send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, I think it would have been very dangerous and I would not have approved that.”

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3 posted on 05/12/2013 12:56:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Dear Mr. Gates simply put, you are a liar!
Happy Mother’s Day !


4 posted on 05/12/2013 12:57:00 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: SeekAndFind

Unbelievable! Now Robert Gates is saying he thinks the current occupant of the Oval Office did the right thing in just going to bed, and no worries about US citizens in danger????


5 posted on 05/12/2013 12:58:14 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: SeekAndFind
Gates had the responsibility for a while for making sure our rapid deployment forces could be rapidly deployed.

So, what did he do to keep us able to do that? Obviously he failed to oversee maintenance of that capability.

I think we have another candidate from the Obama regime fit only for waterboarding.

6 posted on 05/12/2013 12:58:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh my, what must be in Bobby’s WH held files! Photo in bed with Pansey Graham? ... ewwww


7 posted on 05/12/2013 12:58:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were,” Gates said Sunday on CBS”

You just think, you don't know. What do you have in your closet that the Obama Administration is holding over your head?

8 posted on 05/12/2013 12:59:00 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "were hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: SeekAndFind

BS!!! Gate knows better!!! Obama must have unflattering photos of Gates. Our military folks practice 24/7 for just such incidents. Gates is just as guilty of leaving our folks stranded to be murdered as Obama is. Gates should be ashamed of himself!!!!


9 posted on 05/12/2013 12:59:01 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So letting people die, was the right decision - got it.
What a crock.


10 posted on 05/12/2013 12:59:36 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What a load of crap. Have all the so called leaders in Washington voluntarily undergone castration?

I wonder what Mr. Gates would have been think if it was him instead of Christopher Stevens being held when the rape lined form?


11 posted on 05/12/2013 12:59:39 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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"It's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces," Gates said, referring to morning-after analysis. "The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time to do that."

Apparently Gates subscribes to the Panetta Doctrine.

The Panetta Doctrine

On Benghazi, Panetta Says Needed 'Advance Notice' of Surprise Attack for Timely Response

They had real-time onsite video, secured e-mail and were speaking with personnel at both compounds over at least two lines of radio transmission and cell phones. There were two drones overhead. All of that was live-streaming to the entire DoD-DC network of sit-rooms around the world including the White House.

Did Panetta expect al Qaeda to call in with GPS-camera phones and relay their plans and positions to him? Maybe we can air drop laser sighting tags throughout the Muslim world and ask them to all kindly affix one to the tops of their heads? With barcodes so we can target specific jihadis. Oh, and let's require that terrorists submit detailed plans of attacks to a committee for review at least six months in advance.


12 posted on 05/12/2013 1:00:22 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I assume the sorry SOB would have also advised them to lie, lie and lie some more.


13 posted on 05/12/2013 1:01:01 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gates is such a suck up.


14 posted on 05/12/2013 1:01:13 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wonder if CSM was one of the gang of 14 allowed in the “Deep Background”, secret briefer?


15 posted on 05/12/2013 1:01:40 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm’s way, and there just wasn’t time to do that.”

Right there he makes his own counter argument and I wonder whether he knows it. Ambassador Stevens and the 30+ people had been sent into harms way, but there was insufficient planning for security. There was plenty of time to beef up security before sending Steven and the others into Benghazi.


16 posted on 05/12/2013 1:02:14 PM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: SeekAndFind

Gates in an Obamanoid moron. Obviously he doesn’t buy into the military’s “leave no man behind” thing. KMA Gates you pig!!! (And then you go back to kissing Barry’s).


17 posted on 05/12/2013 1:02:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Such actions, he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday, “without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on the ground, would have been very dangerous."

Dangerous? Oh. My. God!!!!

Is their a memo out there that our troops only go into safe places?

Gates falls on his sword, without honor.

18 posted on 05/12/2013 1:03:04 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Such actions, he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday, “without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on the ground, would have been very dangerous."

LIE! Big ass LIE!!

They had a drone above and real time communication with people on the ground there.

What do the RATS have on Gates is the only question I have.

19 posted on 05/12/2013 1:03:36 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
He didn't know anything then and he knows less now. How do you take any of these people seriously?

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


20 posted on 05/12/2013 1:04:59 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: SeekAndFind

“without knowing what the environment is”

I think it was pretty hot that night, wasn’t it?


21 posted on 05/12/2013 1:05:23 PM PDT by Rock N Jones
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To: svcw

RE: So letting people die, was the right decision - got it.

Jonah Goldberg gave a good illustration of this nonsense.

If you see a child struggling in the ocean, you have no idea how long she will flail and paddle before she goes under for the last time. The moral response is to swim for her in the hope that you get there in time. If you fail and she dies, you can console yourself that you did your best to rescue her.

But if you just stand on the beach and do nothing as the child struggles for life, saying, “Well, there’s just no way I can get to her in time,” it doesn’t really matter whether you guessed right or not. You didn’t try.

The White House and State Department insist they guessed right, as if that somehow absolves them of responsibility. They would have sent help if they could have, they claim, but they simply weren’t ready to deploy forces on September 11, the one day of the year you’d expect our military and intelligence agencies to be ready for trouble in the Middle East, particularly given that before his murder, Stevens warned of security problems in Benghazi.

But we know the administration ordered others who were willing, able, and obliged to come to the consulate’s rescue to “stand down.” They in effect told the lifeguards, “Don’t get out of your chairs.”

Though an unmanned drone was there to capture the whole thing on video, which must have been reassuring as the mortar rounds rained down.

Leon Panetta, who was the secretary of defense during the attack, mocked critics who wanted to know why the Pentagon didn’t scramble any jets from Italy to the scene. “You can’t willy-nilly send F-16s there and blow the hell out of place. . . . You have to have good intelligence.”

Never mind that real-time video of the attack is pretty good intelligence. An F-16 doesn’t need to blow anyone to hell to have an impact. As military expert and former assistant defense secretary Bing West notes, “99 percent of air sorties over Afghanistan never drop a single bomb.” Just showing up is often intimidating enough.


22 posted on 05/12/2013 1:06:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
He said the U.S. doesn’t have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, so “getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible.”

Surely Gates knows that northern Africa falls under AfriComm (Gen Hamm, at that time) and they had forces on standby and ready at Sigonella AFB Sicily, a relatively short distance away.

23 posted on 05/12/2013 1:07:00 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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“Based on everything I read, people didn’t really know what was going on in Benghazi contemporaneously,” he said. “To send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, I think it would have been very dangerous and I would not have approved that.”

So, exactly why do we have these special forces? To just sit around and knit when our ambassadors gets attacked and then murdered? With all due respect, Sir, F-off. Like what one of the whistleblowers said - “This is the first time the State Department showed more balls than the military”

25 posted on 05/12/2013 1:08:17 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "were hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: SeekAndFind
"The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time to do that."

Hey Bobby. Armed drone pilots are a dime a dozen. You moron!!!

26 posted on 05/12/2013 1:08:25 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Gates, you traitor and clown, if they were all convinced that they made ‘the right decision’ they wouldn't have felt it necessary to invent the narrative of the You Tube video, even going so far as to arrest the guy who made the film. Or, in your esteemed experience, is lying and stonewalling after four Americans have died at the hands of terrorists standard practice? You are a liar. The fact that you accepted a position in the Obama administration tells all of us exactly what you are - a selfish opportunist. Politics is full of those, but we generally expect more from the military.
27 posted on 05/12/2013 1:09:22 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle (Hil)
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Here is a video of Rep. Chaffetz saying that Gen. Ham, commander of AFRICOM at that time, told him that assets were near enough to help and ready to go.

AFRICOM leader General Carter Ham was never given the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi. Youtube 1:43

Adm. James Lyons (Ret.) on Growing Benghazi Scandal

ADMIRAL LYONS: …All those comforting words that “We don’t want to put our forces at risk.” We had people at risk—they were crying for help! In a situation, you go with the resources you have available—and, in this particular case, we did have that 130-man Marine force recon team sitting there at Sigonella. Even if I only got 50 of them over there, that would have been significant in turning the situation around. We may not have been able to save the ambassador, but we certainly could have saved those other two SEALs that were over on the annex.

ADMIRAL LYONS: In perpetuating this lie, we also had administration officials lying to Congressional committees. That’s a felony. So, “What difference does it make?” It makes all the difference in the world. You cannot flaunt the truth here, just walk away from it and, basically, tell the American public to stuff it. That’s not acceptable.

The point on the organizing the two Marine anti-terrorist teams in Rota, that was good to go ahead and stand ’em up. What I find incomprehensible: The first team, it took them 23 hours to go a few hundred miles from Rota to Tripoli. I could go around the world in 23 hours, so that makes absolutely no sense to me.

There are teams around the world that train year around exclusively for rescues of Americans in hostage situations. Ambassadors and the personnel of diplomatic facilities are their highest priority.

How the military preps.

How an embassy rescue works.

Cross Border Authority.

28 posted on 05/12/2013 1:10:04 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

These guys are mortified of getting petraeused.


29 posted on 05/12/2013 1:11:43 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Cap Huff; All

The argument I heard on the talk shows today that made the most sense is that the available planes were in the north of Italy, and that while they could have gone, they would have needed refueling planes and there was not time to get them available. So my question is why don’t we have an arrangement with Italy to base in the south of Italy or Sicily, why don’t we have an aircraft carrier available? To what extent is the sequester involved in insufficient resources vs. other reasons for poorly positioned resources. Also listening to another aspect, I forget now what exactly, I found myself thinking was Petraus too distracted to be thinking as clearly and strategically as he needed to given the facts on the ground?


30 posted on 05/12/2013 1:12:10 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: SeekAndFind

Gates doesn’t have a clue who decided what!


31 posted on 05/12/2013 1:14:09 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wonder what slush fund of tax-payer’s money just sent a fat check to Gates’ offshore account.....


32 posted on 05/12/2013 1:14:20 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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They would have sent help if they could have, they claim, but they simply weren’t ready to deploy forces on September 11, the one day of the year you’d expect our military and intelligence agencies to be ready for trouble in the Middle East, particularly given that before his murder, Stevens warned of security problems in Benghazi.

Not only that but several other embassies had been under threat from riots all day long and everyone in DC and at State and DoD had been on high alert all day long watching it all closely.

33 posted on 05/12/2013 1:14:40 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gates also served previously as Director of the CIA. Not sure what his comments really mean. Nothing said in Washington should ever be taken at face value. Maybe he doesn’t want to be Petraeus’d, who knows ?


34 posted on 05/12/2013 1:15:54 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: SeekAndFind

So Obama did make decisions that night? What were they? To whom did he express those decisions? When were these decisions made?


35 posted on 05/12/2013 1:15:54 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Decision: stand down; it’s late and I have to get up early in the morning.


36 posted on 05/12/2013 1:15:56 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That makes sense,


37 posted on 05/12/2013 1:16:39 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I never did like Gates and this is a perfect example of why my assessment of the man was correct.

Shut up Gates! We don’t care what you think!


38 posted on 05/12/2013 1:16:40 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since when is “go to bed” the right decision???


39 posted on 05/12/2013 1:16:47 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: SeekAndFind

And we wonder why Iraq was lost.


40 posted on 05/12/2013 1:17:07 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SeekAndFind

TF61?


41 posted on 05/12/2013 1:17:34 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s assume for the sake of argument that Gates is right.

In that case, the administration knew ahead of time that resources couldn’t be sent to quickly protect the embassy.

The question is: Why weren’t the embassy personnel removed to safety well before the attack? Other western countries got their people out once the danger was realized.

Gates can defend the logistics once the attack took place, but he can’t defend the stupidity (or purposeful risk-taking) of leaving the personnel in place.


42 posted on 05/12/2013 1:18:27 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: Toespi

So Gates spent too much time in the local bathhouses wherever he was, or did he prefer Turkish steam rooms.


43 posted on 05/12/2013 1:18:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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What? Does the US only have one plane? Why not put a larger number of troops in multiple types aircraft, maybe a couple of special forces in another, get an assessment of the situation en route, make a plan and reassess before taking action. Instead we stood down before we stood up.


44 posted on 05/12/2013 1:20:02 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: svcw

Mr. Gates, four dead Americans would most likely beg to differ with you, if they could, but they can’t you see, because of the decision you share with 0.


45 posted on 05/12/2013 1:20:38 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind
Air-launched Predators don`t work in Libya due to global warming.

Afghanistan is more northerly than Libya so Predators work there coz it is cooler.

Predators do not work at night over the hot Libyan desert.

46 posted on 05/12/2013 1:20:57 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: SeekAndFind
 photo bullshit.jpg
47 posted on 05/12/2013 1:21:37 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: SeekAndFind

I didn’t realize Robert Gates’s middle name was McNamara.


48 posted on 05/12/2013 1:21:58 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Kartographer

I’d give a few years of my life if Patton could be sent back as an unfirable head of the joint chiefs.


49 posted on 05/12/2013 1:22:16 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Cap Huff
According to testimony, they not only didn't beef up, they significantly reduced the protection forces!
50 posted on 05/12/2013 1:22:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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