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Posted on 05/13/2013 8:50:24 AM PDT by Theoria
Edited on 05/13/2013 9:14:20 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
The Supreme Court unanimously ruled on Monday that farmers may not use Monsanto
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Pretty much a no-brainier; and the correct decision.
Monsanto will get custody every other weekend and two weeks in summer.
I read somewhere that was what the next iteration of MS Office would be, and I ran into a Corel customer satisfaction survey (I use WordPerfect) that indicated they were considering going the "paid subscription service" route -- so you might not be too far off.
‘”paid subscription service” ‘——Yep. Corel in the Clouds. Wonderful, instead of $60 for software, yeah get to purchase a sub for year.
Conservatives should not cheer for piracy on intellectual property, the same as someone else trying to steal others’ labor.
Also my observation: Monsanto may have won this case, but they already have lost a huge battle in PR.
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I made sure to put into the survey that it was a stupid idea -- and they'd definitely lose me as a customer; kinda sad because I like WordPerfect -- because anyone who would have a need to keep things secure (like lawyers working a sensitive case) would be exposing their data to unnecessary risks... on the plus-side I've not heard anything more about the idea so hopefully MS will go that route and lose the major market-share.
That might be a good thing for Open Office too... considering it's basically an MS clone, such a system would run antithetical to the sensibilities of the OO developers and they'd likely break to "go their own way".
How did the supremes know that he hadn’t simply selected ordinary soybean mutations for roundup resistance thus replicating the process (which can’t be patented) that Monsanto used to find the resistant strain in the first place? Anyone can select for anti-biotic resistant microbes. just plate bacteria on a culture with a low level of antibiotic. Take the survivors and repeat at a higher concentration of antibiotic until you have your anti-biotic resistant yersinia pestis ready to market. Same with soybeans. More expensive since you have to use a LOT of soybeans (but a lot safer), but no reason that anyone can’t do exactly that.
Will the last small farm owner please turn out the lights on your way out.
It does, but more tangentially than directly.
Conservatives should not cheer for piracy on intellectual property, the same as someone else trying to steal others’ labor.
This wasn't piracy; it did not occur on the seas. This was not theft of intellectual property, the results of it perhaps, but not the property itself -- but it was not theft at all, he made a legal purchase. Moreover, it wasn't even a violation of his contract with them -- he did not keep the seed; if they wanted to prevent something like this from happening they would have also included a "you can't sell this to the general public"- or "anyone you sell this to has to sign a copy of this contract"-type clause.
I'm sorry, but they were in the wrong; the guy found a perfectly legitimate, legal (and lawful, he broke no law) loophole.
Also my observation: Monsanto may have won this case, but they already have lost a huge battle in PR.
I have to ask if that even matters; Congress has horrid PR -- like the lowest ever -- and yet they're still allowed to conduct business as usual.
Not true, as I said in previous comment. “Keywords - Unanimous and limited scope” on this SCOTUS decision. Don't try to interpret it into encompassing all issues under the sun.
I’m really concerned about how this will affect my backyard garden. I plant many heirloom seeds, and I’ve been increasing their use over the last few years. If nature does what it does, and without my knowledge or consent my heirlooms get cross-pollinated with Monsanto’s things, will they come after me? Granted, I have shallow pockets and I’m just a gardener so I doubt they WOULD but I’m disturbed if they COULD. If they have been given the legal right to do this it’s very frightening. Control the food supply . . .
I love it!
How long before we will have to pay a fee to a software or computer company for the products, services and advertising we use them for?
If you want inventions, you need to grant exclusivity. And it will be in the public domain in 20 years. Meanwhile, farmers can use the old beans.
I thought you might find it handy.
Everything has a parent, even rocks.
Soy beans aren’t cross pollinated by bees or wind.
Avoid soy, genetically altered or not, as much as you possibly can, and doubly so for children. It turns your boys into girls, and your girls into women (too early). It couldn’t be worse for you, and it is in almost all processed foods.
May I guess that you’re not a farmer?
“How did the supremes know that he hadn’t simply selected ordinary soybean mutations for roundup resistance thus replicating the process (which can’t be patented) that Monsanto used to find the resistant strain in the first place?”
Its actually quite easy to show that the resistance was not naturally selected for by examining the sequence of the gene and the region around it.
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