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Confederate flag shirts stir tensions at Mo. high school
MSNBC ^ | 5/13/13 | Anon

Posted on 05/13/2013 12:53:39 PM PDT by 0.E.O

NIXA, Mo. —The Nixa school district is refusing to allow students to wear T-shirts emblazoned with the Confederate flag to memorialize a classmate's death.

The Springfield News-Leader reports that students wanted to wear the shirts on the anniversary of a Colby Snider's May 1, 2012, death from carbon monoxide poisoning. Besides the Confederate flag, the shirts included the slogan "heritage

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: confederate; dixie; dresscodes; teens; tshirt
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I'm not sure what the connection is. Did he die of carbon monoxide poisioning from a burning flag? Did he commit suicide because he'd been hassled for being a Confederate supporter? Or because the South lost? The article doesn't say why the flag and his memorial are connected.
1 posted on 05/13/2013 12:53:40 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

Eggzackly.


2 posted on 05/13/2013 12:57:22 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: 0.E.O
No Confederate Flag shirts allowed but they would welcome Mexican Flag shirts or Che Guevara shirts.



"Riamh nár dhruid ó sbairn lann!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

3 posted on 05/13/2013 12:58:09 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: 0.E.O

The dead boy’s family makes and sells these shirts.


4 posted on 05/13/2013 1:05:04 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: 0.E.O

“Colby’s life touched a lot of people,” says Jodie. One of the things that was important to Colby’s friends was their southern pride and heritage. “They claim to be rednecks.”

So they created a t-shirt in Colby’s honor.

http://ozarksfirst.com/fulltext?nxd_id=800722


5 posted on 05/13/2013 1:05:13 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: 0.E.O; All

They’re in a government school.....what did they expect?


6 posted on 05/13/2013 1:07:07 PM PDT by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: 0.E.O

If this was the La Raza crowd with Mexican flags the admins would leave them alone.


7 posted on 05/13/2013 1:12:44 PM PDT by montag813
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To: thackney

Nothing wrong with being a Redneck.


8 posted on 05/13/2013 1:13:01 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 0.E.O

Maybe if your hatred of half this nation didn’t make you such a bigot you might have read more and talked stooped less and actually understood the article.


9 posted on 05/13/2013 1:13:22 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: 0.E.O

My take on the Rebel flag is such that I don’t see it as making a statement in support of slavery or denigrating Blacks today.

I see it more of a statement of Southern pride, state’s rights, a legacy of people’s pride in their own region, as opposed to something being crammed down their throats by the government.

This isn’t an attempt to rewrite history, or open the real cause of the Civil war to debate. It’s an attempt to understand why people cling to the Rebel flag today, and merely see it as a source of regional pride.

Is anyone convinced that wearing those shirts was done to make a statement against Blacks or in support of slavery?

I’m not.


10 posted on 05/13/2013 1:16:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: 0.E.O
“Colby’s life touched a lot of people,” says Jodie. One of the things that was important to Colby’s friends was their southern pride and heritage. “They claim to be rednecks.”

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I live about 60 miles from Nixa and we have some guys who like to drive around town with a big confederate flag mounted on the back of their pickup. It always struck me as funny seeing as how the southern landowners who ran the Confederacy didn't have much use for the poor uneducated whites who now days ride around with confederate flags hanging out the back of their trucks.

11 posted on 05/13/2013 1:17:21 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: CodeToad
Maybe if your hatred of half this nation didn’t make you such a bigot you might have read more and talked stooped less and actually understood the article

Are you sure your own hatred and bigotry for the other half isn't coloring your viewpoint?

12 posted on 05/13/2013 1:19:05 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: thackney

Well that explains it more than the other article did. Thanks.


13 posted on 05/13/2013 1:20:16 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

I suppose it really shouldn’t matter. The thugs memorializing Saint Skittles of Sanford down in Florida were praised by the liberal media morons for wearing hoodies...so I think a historical representation of a flag that flew over the land ought to be allowed...

no one is pro-slavery these days (well, I take that back—some Muslim tribes and gangsters in the Sudan DO take slaves from the black interior of their continent)...so the Confederate flag no longer is considered a pro-slavery symbol to those who wear it proudly.

Live and let live, right?


14 posted on 05/13/2013 1:20:20 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: ConorMacNessa

Even with the “Heritage, Not Hate” on there they can’t deal with it. I guess it would force the school to actually teach the truth behind the confederate flag. If they know it, which I doubt.


15 posted on 05/13/2013 1:21:09 PM PDT by albie (s)
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To: 0.E.O

I’m guessing he was a Lynyrd Skynyrd fan.


16 posted on 05/13/2013 1:22:10 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: 0.E.O

Get enough people to wear the shirts and dare the PC clowns to kick you all out. This is about freedom of speech, not Confederate Flags .

Personally, I’m offended by the homo “rainbow” flag (the Fag Flag?) and the insipid UN flag too. Stop flying them or I’ll sue.


17 posted on 05/13/2013 1:22:51 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: thackney

18 posted on 05/13/2013 1:24:31 PM PDT by stormer
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To: CodeToad

19 posted on 05/13/2013 1:25:13 PM PDT by stormer
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To: CodeToad

20 posted on 05/13/2013 1:25:47 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: 0.E.O

21 posted on 05/13/2013 1:30:14 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: DoughtyOne

“I see it more of a statement of Southern pride...”

“Heritage not Hate” is the perfect slogan for those shirts.


22 posted on 05/13/2013 1:30:20 PM PDT by Owl558 (Those who remember George Satayana and doomed to repeat him)
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To: 0.E.O
The Confederate flag is a symbol of opposition to the high-handedness of the US feral government.

Nothing more.

23 posted on 05/13/2013 1:31:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: thackney

Who isn’t?


24 posted on 05/13/2013 1:31:43 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: 0.E.O

I didn’t post this article and make such a bigoted statement, you did. Own it, boy.


25 posted on 05/13/2013 1:31:47 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: CodeToad
I didn’t post this article and make such a bigoted statement, you did. Own it, boy.

Will you own up as well?

26 posted on 05/13/2013 1:34:29 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Owl558

Sounds reasoned to me...


27 posted on 05/13/2013 1:36:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: Owl558

Patrimonio no odia, si se puede.

That works too, we don’t get to choose our predecessors.


28 posted on 05/13/2013 1:41:03 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 0.E.O

“Will you own up as well?”

I didn’t make any bigoted statements, you did. I guess you ain’t man enough to own your own behavior. Typical liberal. Always trying to point the finger somewhere besides themselves.


29 posted on 05/13/2013 1:42:22 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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The article doesn't say why the flag and his memorial are connected.

It doesn't. Either Colby or his friends are into Confederate flags and identify them with things he liked to do: "mudding, hunting, fishing, being with his buddies, Ford trucks, that sort of thing." It sounds a little like they went with the first thing they thought of, rather than tinkering with the original concept for a while to improve it.

Somebody's bound to bring up Che or Mao shirts (but when was the last time anybody ever wore a Mao shirt?). It looks like the ACLU would defend students who wore Che or Mao or Confederate or pro-gun or anti-gun or pro-gay or (within reason) anti-gay t-shirts, so there's not a double standard there. They do object to flying Confederate flags near court houses or over public buildings, though.

30 posted on 05/13/2013 1:58:30 PM PDT by x
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naah, they’d not just leave them alone, they declare them all “patriots and heroes”


31 posted on 05/13/2013 2:21:34 PM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: 0.E.O

Stupid. Would they have shirts with the Nazi emblem also...the South and Nazis lost the war and those defeated emblems belong in musems and history books. Its unAmerican to give them honor when we have the American flag a symblom which represents liberty for all.


32 posted on 05/13/2013 2:30:18 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: 0.E.O

What idiot let the school know it was happening? Just do it, let the PC panty-waists foul their knickers over it.


33 posted on 05/13/2013 2:39:06 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Confederate flag is a symbol of opposition to the high-handedness of the US feral government.

I think it's more a vision of the Confederacy as they wish it was more than the Confederacy as it actually was. But that's true of a lot of symbols.

34 posted on 05/13/2013 2:47:40 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

Now where did I leave my “Oh no - not this sh!t again!” JPG? LOL


35 posted on 05/13/2013 3:37:25 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: CodeToad

What “bigoted statement” did he make?


36 posted on 05/13/2013 3:41:34 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: stormer

I’m glad I was born in New Mexico and my wife was born in TEXAS!

Unfortunately my kids were born in Arkansas.


37 posted on 05/13/2013 4:32:49 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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Wow, we have MAJOR road named after Jefferson Davis, the horrors!

Robert E. Lee High School!!!

So I guess the Confederacy and the Third Reich are a viewed a little differently. Care to retract your stupid statement?

38 posted on 05/13/2013 4:42:48 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 0.E.O

11 states had the enormous cajones to tell the Feds to f off. Not even a snow pea twit like you can take that away from them.


39 posted on 05/13/2013 4:45:07 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

For those of you who aren’t aware, here are some other choice lines from the poem CVA chooses to quote from as his tagline.

I hates the Constitution, this “Great Republic,” too!...

I hates the Declaration of Independence, too!...

And I hates their striped banner, and I fit it all I could.

http://www.civilwarpoetry.org/confederate/songs/rebel.html

So proclaiming undying hatred of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the American flag is apparently viewed by some around here as the acme of patriotism.

Odd, that.

I’ll cut some slack for the author of the poem. He had been defeated and was understandably and forgivably defiant and resentful.

But I will never understand those who choose to resurrect such sentiments from a long-buried past.


40 posted on 05/13/2013 4:59:25 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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A Constitution not followed is worse than no Constitution at all. For it has now just a fig leaf for the statist to do as they please, unrestrained. The declaration of Independence has lost its meaning in this statist Thugocracy . It isn't all Lincoln's fault, he just showed future Presidents how to wield unrestrained power. So yes, I am just as cynical as that great American, Major James Randolph CSA.

Good ole Rebel

41 posted on 05/13/2013 5:09:30 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I'll bet this HUGE Federal Govt sign bothers you....

42 posted on 05/13/2013 5:13:14 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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43 posted on 05/13/2013 5:16:54 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Sherman Logan

44 posted on 05/13/2013 5:18:36 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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11 states had the enormous cajones to tell the Feds to f off.

Actually I think it's more of a matter of 11 states having the poor sense to rebel and lacked the cojones to win.

45 posted on 05/13/2013 5:29:32 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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A Constitution not followed is worse than no Constitution at all.

Well the Southern states certainly would know all about the 'no Constitution at all' part.

46 posted on 05/13/2013 5:30:56 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: central_va

Nope, possibly because my browser won’t open it. :)


47 posted on 05/13/2013 5:31:23 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I won’t claim to speak for the departed Major James Innes Randolf CSA, but my guess is that he wouldn’t care for anyone giving him “slack”, he didn’t need or want your forgiveness.


48 posted on 05/13/2013 5:32:32 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Third time's a charm.

I guess that would mean that two more rebellions and you might win one. Except that being from a Blue state you probably won't know anything about that. Unless you move to a conservative one.

49 posted on 05/13/2013 5:33:06 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O
My favorite part of the song:

But I killed a chance of Yankees
And I'd like to kill some mo'.

Three hundred thousand Yankees
Lie stiff in Southern dust
We got three hundred thousand
Before they conquered us.
They died of Southern fever
And Southern steel and shot.
I wish they were three millions
Instead of what we got.

50 posted on 05/13/2013 5:37:45 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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