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British ministers voice support for leaving EU
EU Observer ^ | 13.05.13 @ 07:44 | Andrew Rettman

Posted on 05/13/2013 2:11:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Two senior British ministers have said they would vote to leave the EU if there was a referendum now.

Speaking on BBC TV on Sunday (12 May), the ruling Conservative Party’s education minister Michael Gove said: “My ideal is exactly what the majority of the population think, which is that the present situation is no good, to say that life outside [the EU] would be perfectly tolerable. We could contemplate it; there would be certain advantages.”

Defense minister Philip Hammond told BBC radio later the same day: “If the choice is between a European Union written exactly as it is today and not being a part of that, then I have to say that I’m on the side of the argument that Michael Gove has put forward.” …

Hammond said it would be “defeatist” to quit the Union without trying to reform it first.

Their remarks come ahead of a vote next week on holding an in/out referendum more quickly. …

(Excerpt) Read more at euobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: brexit; euexit; eussr; referendum
The EU cannot be reformed.
1 posted on 05/13/2013 2:11:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The UKIP is TOTALLY TRANSFORMING politics in England. Look them up - they take no hostages. They are SICK TO DEATH of mass immigration, the EU, and Windmills. They even make our Tea Party look like a bunch of politically-correct wimps.

They are quickly becoming the dominant party in England and very soon we may well be seeing the England of old - that NO ONE pushed around.

(of course, that assumes their leaders don’t get jailed for being anti-European)


2 posted on 05/13/2013 2:33:59 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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They are quickly becoming the dominant party in England...

A wee bit of hyperbole there, if I may say so. They're certainly in the political limelight at the moment...but dominant party? A very long way to go before that happens.

3 posted on 05/14/2013 4:51:18 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy

LOL...I said BECOMING the dominant party. We’ll see if they make it. Typically, in Europe, the existing government figures out a way to jail or otherwise neutralize true conservative opposition. So far that hasn’t happened to Nigel - and he’s very, very, clever going after Eastern European immigration, rather than those coming in from the South (which, of course, are the real threat).

But I expect him to be set up, sooner than later, and then be out of politics (and, if he’s lucky, that’s all).


4 posted on 05/14/2013 5:36:01 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BobL

They may or may not advance further from this high point, but it has to be said the precedents aren’t encouraging. On at least five previous occasions in my lifetime there’s been a surge of support like this for a third party, in elections (local, European or parliamentary by-election) outside the general election cycle, and midway through the term of an unpopular government. In the past it’s been the Liberals (several times), the SDP and the Greens. Every time, come the next general election, we’ve reverted to the same old two-party status quo. You really have to go back to the rise of Labour a century ago for the last time the mould has was been broken.


5 posted on 05/14/2013 5:55:31 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy

has was been = was


6 posted on 05/14/2013 5:56:24 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy

I can’t argue that...I’ve seen it a bit over there too (BNP comes to mind...but they were screwed up, from what I saw).

I wish you guys the best. The sooner you deal with it, the better.


7 posted on 05/14/2013 6:17:50 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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