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GOP defies Boehner on special Benghazi panel
The Hill ^ | 5/14/2013 | Molly K. Hooper

Posted on 05/14/2013 3:56:13 AM PDT by markomalley

House Republican members are defying Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and five committee chairmen by endorsing a measure that would set up a special panel to investigate the deadly attacks in Benghazi, Libya.

A growing number of members on the committees with jurisdiction over the Benghazi matter — Intelligence, Judiciary, Oversight and Government Reform, Armed Services and Foreign Affairs — have signed onto Rep. Frank Wolf’s (R-Va.) resolution.

Boehner and the chairmen of those committees do not support the legislation. Instead, they have worked together to investigate the Obama administration’s handling of the Sept. 11, 2012 assault.

Despite that resistance, Wolf has garnered a sizable majority of the GOP Conference as co-sponsors since introducing the measure in January. It has 146 GOP co-sponsors, with more than 80 Republicans backing it over the last month.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has also embraced a special committee and attempted to pry the GOP-led House to schedule a vote. That would put pressure, McCain has pointed out, on the Senate to act.

According to a review of the House co-sponsors, a majority of GOP lawmakers on the Armed Services, Judiciary and Oversight and Government Reform committees and half of the GOP lawmakers on the Foreign Affairs panel have endorsed the Wolf resolution.

Former Foreign Affairs Committee Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) signed on to the resolution Monday, while former Homeland Security Committee Chairman Pete King (R-N.Y.) endorsed it during a television interview. Late last week, former Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.) became a co-sponsor.

Two of the Intelligence Committee’s 12 GOP lawmakers, Reps. Michele Bachmann (Minn.) and Tom Rooney (Fla.), have signed on.

Not one Democrat has co-sponsored the Wolf resolution.

President Obama on Monday dismissed GOP charges that his administration covered up the truth about the attacks in Benghazi, calling them a politically motivated “sideshow” that does “dishonor” to the nation’s diplomats.

He added: “The whole issue of talking points, frankly, throughout this process has been a sideshow. The fact that this keeps getting churned out, frankly, has a lot to do with political motivations.”

Wolf told The Hill in an interview, “I think you want to bring together the very best minds, you want to focus like a laser beam ... bring an outside counsel to coordinate, direct and unify ... bring it together in 90 days.”

Should Boehner not seek a vote on Wolf’s resolution, the Virginia congressman revealed he might have several opportunities to offer the measure as an amendment on the House floor during the appropriations bill process in June.

“I would look for a way to offer an amendment on the floor. Appropriations bills are coming. There will be opportunities,” Wolf explained.

Detractors say that creating a select committee would be counterproductive to the work that has already been undertaken by the five committees of jurisdiction.

They maintain that the 90-day timeline would allow for administration stonewalling, and with only 19 members on the committee — 10 of which would be the committee chairmen and ranking members of the panels with jurisdiction — said it would be difficult to appoint standout questioners to the select panel.

On Sunday, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) dismissed the idea of a creating a select committee: “... it needs to be investigated. Our committee can investigate.”

Last Thursday, Wolf sent a stinging letter to Boehner, citing the support for his select committee cause the day after Oversight and Government Reform held a high-profile hearing on Benghazi.

“The revelations at [last week’s] hearing have raised serious questions about the administration’s efforts to respond to the Americans under fire at the annex in Benghazi. What remains to be seen is whether the House will be complicit in that failure, or if we will pursue the truth — wherever it may take us — to ensure that we continue to deserve the sacrifices made by the men and women who serve our country,” Wolf wrote.

Boehner last week remained firm in his commitment to follow “regular order” and allow the committees with jurisdiction to continue to share the workload.

He highlighted the Oversight and Government Reform Committee’s performance in questioning State Department whistle-blower Gregory Hicks.

“I thought that Chairman Issa and the members of the Government Reform and Oversight Committee ... did a fabulous job in a very long day of hearings of eliciting more information that, frankly, we haven’t had for the last eight months,” Boehner said.

A senior House Republican aide said, “It should be pretty clear after last week that there is already a committee leading the overarching investigation, and that is Chairman Issa’s committee. After last week’s hearing, there is growing concern, even among members who’ve advocated the creation of a select committee in the past, that throwing all this to a select committee now instead of letting Issa’s panel continue to do its work would actually impede the investigation.”

Since the hearing last week, seven House Republicans have formally co-sponsored Wolf’s legislation, including Deputy Whip Tom Cole (Okla.).

On Monday afternoon, Issa’s committee sent out a notice that it would be taking testimony from Ambassador Tom Pickering and retired Adm. Michael Mullen, who led the State Department investigation on Benghazi. Issa gave notice during recent media appearances that he might subpoena additional witnesses. Former Vice President Cheney last week suggested the GOP should subpoena former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.


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1 posted on 05/14/2013 3:56:13 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Benghazi is where the fire is, the IRS/AP scandals are smoke.

If obongo is calling for an investigation into the latter then there's nothing there that can touch him, and if he's poo poohing the former he's neck deep in it, bank on it.

2 posted on 05/14/2013 4:00:01 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: markomalley

Way to go, Committee chairs!


3 posted on 05/14/2013 4:01:36 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: markomalley
Fire Boehnehead
4 posted on 05/14/2013 4:01:55 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: markomalley

Boehner has obviously been involved HELPING al Qaeda,
otherwise he would have been FOR this.


5 posted on 05/14/2013 4:02:31 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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6 posted on 05/14/2013 4:02:33 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: markomalley

Boehner and McConnel are such disappointments.
“leaders”?
Horse shit


7 posted on 05/14/2013 4:05:22 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: markomalley

Having McCain push this Committee leads me to suspect it.
I don’t trust McCain in anything.
Perhaps the select committee is not needed, perhaps Issa can handle this (I doubt it though). Don’t know which way to go on this one, but would love to see the Democrats elect a new Speaker.


8 posted on 05/14/2013 4:05:51 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: markomalley

Can’t just have Oversight Committee investigate all of the Obama & Co wrongdoings.

Boehner has got to realize people don’t trust government, and don’t trust him and his cronies, either.

Or be made to realize that fact.


9 posted on 05/14/2013 4:12:53 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: markomalley

We will have a new speaker soon... this man is pissing off everyone... but the communists.

LLS


10 posted on 05/14/2013 4:17:19 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: markomalley

I think Boehner is right on this one...the standing committees need to do their jobs and let their members ask their questions, whereas a Special Committee (like the 9/11 committee) could give Obama enough room to wiggle out with barely a scratch.


11 posted on 05/14/2013 4:18:01 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Venturer

Bonehead is playing both ends against the middle here. He is trying not to look like Barry Soetoro (BS) enemy while at the same time trying to say the Congress is doing what they can to get to the bottom of these scandals.

Bonehead is worried he could lose his speaker’s job if the dems win and will not take on anything that does not have a 100% chance of success. He even lets BS crap on him by saying things like The Speaker had those documents, we gave him access last year implying he did not review them when he had a chance to do so.

On the select committee, they need someone with the heart of an investigator not some political chump to lead it. I am tired of the press releases that go no where like fast and furious when I was certain the cretain would be taken out in hand cuffs only to find out the matter was allowed to die out of its own weight. The firing of Walpin, that could have also been laid directly on BS but nothing happened then either. On and on, we are fighting not only the dems and the media, we are fighting RINO incompetence.


12 posted on 05/14/2013 4:18:31 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
"A senior House Republican aide said, “It should be pretty clear after last week that there is already a committee leading the overarching investigation, and that is Chairman Issa’s committee."

After following Fast and Furious just as closely as I have followed Benghazi, I ask Chairman Issa how many people have gone to jail as a result of his investigation? What do we know that David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh didn't have first? What happened?

Absolutely NOTHING.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


13 posted on 05/14/2013 4:19:07 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: Venturer
Don’t know which way to go on this one,

Neither do I. I assume that the subcommittees already have their marching orders. Seems that they could be allowed to go forward. I'd like to see Armed Services get testimony from the officers on duty on 9/11/13.

14 posted on 05/14/2013 4:19:30 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: markomalley

Someone get that testicle-free weephead out of the Speakers Chair and get someone in there with a pair. He isn’t this wimpy when it comes to smacking down Conservatives. He’s quick to do that.


15 posted on 05/14/2013 4:19:46 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Joe Boucher

“Boehner and McConnel are such disappointments.
“leaders”? Horse shit”

Hastert and Frist before them were also weak. With the exception of the early days of Gingrich as Speaker, the GOP establishment has been unable to develop and put in place effective leadership at the national level:

George H.W. Bush
Bob Dole
George W. Bush
Bob Livingston - Gingrich successor as speaker who resigned
Denny Hastert
Bill Frist
John McCain
Mitt Romney
Mel Martinez - RNC Chairman before Steele
Michael Steele
Reince Priebus
Eric Cantor
Karl Rove

It is impossible to fight a war for survival with vapid leadership.


16 posted on 05/14/2013 4:20:30 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: markomalley

Is Boehner leading from the rear again?


17 posted on 05/14/2013 4:21:30 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: Iron Munro

Boehner is waiting for Pelosi to request a select committee..


18 posted on 05/14/2013 4:25:48 AM PDT by ken5050 (Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but just about every terrorist is a Muslim..)
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To: Venturer

I fear we’d see a repeat of what happened with Clinton on the Cox and Thompson reports, which is what Holder et al have already done with all the Congressional investigations: refuse to honor subpoenas. Unless a select committee is ready to arrest people like Eric Holder who defy their subpoenas, deadlines, etc. 90 days is not long enough to get answers from anybody. If both Issa’s group and a select committee have the ability to subpoena, it seems like the major difference is that a select committee is limited to 90 days, and that would be a bad thing given this regime’s stonewalling.

Is there some legal ability that a select committee has, that Issa’s committee doesn’t have? What is the advantage to make up for the time restriction?


19 posted on 05/14/2013 4:28:00 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Sirius Lee
If obongo is calling for an investigation into the latter then there's nothing there that can touch him, and if he's poo poohing the former he's neck deep in it, bank on it.

Spot on. This needs to be repeated over and over. Let's not take our eyes off the ball.

20 posted on 05/14/2013 4:35:14 AM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: markomalley
Oh, and for those who think Boehner was doing the right thing,

Levin: Republican establishment bought into “kooky Tea Party slander”

The scandal broke not because of ANY Repub Establishment did anything, it was due to Levin's persistence and pressuring the right person.

So. There!

21 posted on 05/14/2013 4:42:40 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: markomalley

my question...

whatever happened to fast ‘n furious?????

my guess is the same will happen here...

it will just go away..


22 posted on 05/14/2013 4:43:50 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: Kharis13

He’s definitely trying to distract from Benghazi, but I think his call for an investigation of the IRS means something like the “investigation” they did of Benghazi...you know, the one that ended by saying it was nobody’s fault, nothing happened, or maybe a couple of flunkies dropped the ball but, heck, that’s to be expected...

He doesn’t want a real investigation of anything, believe me. The only type of investigation he wants is something that he hopes will contain and suppress the information.


23 posted on 05/14/2013 4:46:23 AM PDT by livius
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To: joe fonebone

I believe some part of Fast n’ Furious has made it to the courts, but it seems to be bogged down there.


24 posted on 05/14/2013 4:47:30 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

We should take our time with these investigations....draw them OUT!


25 posted on 05/14/2013 4:50:09 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Soul of the South

Not one among em worth a thimble of spit


26 posted on 05/14/2013 4:54:20 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: onyx; MestaMachine

Did anyone see this?

http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/did-the-libyan-government-order-benghazi-attacks/

Was everyone beging played?
Or,is this more disinformation?


27 posted on 05/14/2013 4:55:55 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Soul of the South
What do you expect? They're republicans. They don't GAF so long as they know what the socialists are going to do in advance so they can invest in the equity side of it.

They're looking out for their own asses and no one else like good republicans.

28 posted on 05/14/2013 4:59:02 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: markomalley

I support regular order and Issa. Let the process continue,

Those seeking limelight must be disregarded while the layers within layers are uncovered. Speed is not beneficial to a through process


29 posted on 05/14/2013 5:05:11 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: rodguy911

I went to the link for just a sec, (only because of you).
FWIW, I don’t believe hardly anything WND posts.
Reading the headline, I don’t buy that at all.


30 posted on 05/14/2013 5:12:23 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Joe Boucher

Yes, but McC and Boehner are ULTIMATELY the result of the collective decisions made by Republican primary voters in two states and then their party membership in both houses. Does not endear one to the wisdom of Republican primary voters


31 posted on 05/14/2013 5:19:38 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: markomalley
Not one Democrat has co-sponsored the Wolf resolution.

Now why do you suppose this is the case? Usually, the Democrats make a big fuss when there is no co-sponsor. Could it be that they are all hiding under rocks?

After all, the Democrats did hide the fact that Gregory Hicks is a registered Democrat who voted twice for Obama.

Good for Wolf! Boehner plays golf too much with Obama, do you not think?

32 posted on 05/14/2013 5:20:26 AM PDT by olezip
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To: butterdezillion

It is my understanding that a Select Committee is under no time constraints and can even span from one Congress to the next. A select committee exists until it completes the task that it was formed to do.


33 posted on 05/14/2013 5:28:35 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Venturer
Having McCain push this Committee leads me to suspect it. I don’t trust McCain in anything.

My thoughts exactly.

34 posted on 05/14/2013 5:31:28 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: old and tired

McCain et al are jealous. They are missing out on the glory.

They crave being part of the action.


35 posted on 05/14/2013 5:36:20 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Timber Rattler

You express my concerns. Special committee if too narrowly defined could overlook important information.


36 posted on 05/14/2013 5:37:19 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Venturer

Freepers should read this paragraph at least twice and consider who would be on and who be left off a Select Committee.

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“They maintain that the 90-day timeline would allow for administration stonewalling, and with only 19 members on the committee — 10 of which would be the committee chairmen and ranking members of the panels with jurisdiction — said it would be difficult to appoint standout questioners to the select panel.”

+++

Even on Issa’s committee he is no better than the third best questioner. He would get two spots on a Select Commmittee and he would take one of them. Same deal on four other committees. We would get chairmen, maybe good, maybe bad and one maybe competent or just senior member of each committee.

Frankly, just letting Issa take the lead may not be a bad idea.


37 posted on 05/14/2013 5:38:56 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: markomalley
Crybaby's got to go!


As usual, feel free to steal any or all of mine. :)

I've built a Benghazi Timeline - it could make its own post... feel free...


The Benghazi Timeline

After months of begging for better security, Ambassador
Stevens calls for help...
hillary not now ambassador stevens benghazi obama sleeps benghazi

Our military is ready to rescue the Ambassador and his
staff, but are given the order to "Stand Down" by Obama.
benghazi timeline

The Blame Game Begins

Team Obama/Hillary race into action within 24 hours
blaming, naming and arresting an innocent filmmaker
while apologizing to violent Muslims.
obama hillary apologize film muslims benghazi lies obama hillary benghazi scapegoat filmmaker lie

The coverup, whitewash and media blackout begin when
their lies fall apart.

In stark contrast to her rush to blame and pass the buck,
Hillary feigns illness, flees the country and drags her feet
for months.
Supporters squeal "It was so looonnngg ago".
hillary clinton congress testify drunk benghazi

"But what difference does it make?!?!"
obama 3pm vegas golf benghazi scandal coverup fail

How it should end...
hillary clinton prison
obama resigns new york times impeach fool idiot

38 posted on 05/14/2013 5:39:49 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: MestaMachine

“I ask Chairman Issa how many people have gone to jail as a result of his investigation?”

MestaMachine -

I greatly appreciate your dedication to getting out the truth to people in general, to to your ping list in particular. Please keep me on your list.

But we here at FR pride ourselves on our fidelity to the Constitution and to the separation of powers that it codifies. In that light, Congress is the legislative branch, not the judicial branch. Congressional investigations should not have “jail” as a goal. Indeed, not even the judicial branch should have that as their goal. Their goal should be justice - which may include incarceration, but may just as well have vindication and liberty. Indeed, if pure justice is not the goal then we have a problem.

I would be appalled if Issa’s investigations had as their goal “jail” for their objects. Suppose the democrats controlled congress, could I sit back if one of Pelosi’s committee chairmen sought “jail” for a conservative? I should hope not! I would oppose it, not just because it was against my political ideas, but also because it was against the Constitution. The very idea that a congressional committee investigation could result in jail is totally unconstitutional and totally against my view of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Let’s be clear, many of the people who have testified before Issa’s committee deserve jail (as far as I can tell), but Issa, his committee, and the congress must not become instruments of justice in the strict sense of the word. That violates the Constitution. In their legislative oversight they must be instruments of truth, which should then be used for legislation. Findings can and should be turned over to the Judicial branch as needed, but Issa and his committee have no judicial functions whatsoever.

On FR I have seen a lot of positive things about Issa, but I have also seen many negative things. Most of the negative comments have centered on why he did not DO SOMETHING about the corruption. Yes, why did Issa not just send the police in to Holder’s office and have him arrested? Why? Why did he not send them in to arrest Obama? Issa is a legislator, not an executive or a judge. We do not have a form of government open to coup d’etat and putsch. At least until now, and we must resist with all of our strength any move toward that form of “justice.”

Even impeachment deals with removal from office, and not ordinary judicial matters. Should the House of Representatives impeach any political office holder and the Senate convict him, what sentence can they give him? Life in prison? Death? A fine of $50,000? As I understand it, none of those. Only removal from office.

Issa is doing a great job, and we need to take courage from that, and give courage to him and his colleagues as well.


39 posted on 05/14/2013 5:42:21 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: bert
McCain et al are jealous. They are missing out on the glory. They crave being part of the action.

I hope you're right. But McCain makes me nervous.

40 posted on 05/14/2013 5:44:49 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: markomalley

It needs to be done. Unfortunately, the GOP “leadership” (HA!) is more focused on the minor issue of the WH putting out BS talking points, and not at all concerned about the fact the Obama administration left these guys to twist in the wind. The GOP is going after the shiny beads, or more to the point, they’re only looking at treating the symptoms and not curing the disease. Then again, why should they? They’re as much a part of the disease as the Democrats.


41 posted on 05/14/2013 5:45:59 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-eyed killer of the deep.)
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To: markomalley

Am I the only one who who agrees with Victoria Toensing that a “select committee” is a bad idea? The fact that McQueeg wants one ought to tell you what you need to know about how good an idea this is.


42 posted on 05/14/2013 5:46:03 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: markomalley

Special prosecutor time.

The IRS thing is a ruse to get the focus off of the real game. It’s real and it’s a problem, but was tossed in the fire to divide Congress. And it’s working.

The AP phone tap is, in my opinion, an act of collusion between the AP and the WH to give them something to print ahead of everything. This morning, it’s all that the press wants to talk about. “Oh, we are the REAL victims!” FUAP


43 posted on 05/14/2013 5:51:01 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: markomalley

Obama has dirt on him, just like Petraeus. He need to step down, McConnell too. I wish WE the people could choose the leaders.


44 posted on 05/14/2013 5:56:14 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: livius

I have been complaining to people that it appears he is totally incompetent, as he has no knowledge of the things going on in his administration. Seems to work better on low information. They hear about the main topic, but don’’t quite get it. Incompetence they nod their heads. Too much golf and vacations. No handling of their lower staff seems to resonate.


45 posted on 05/14/2013 6:03:24 AM PDT by I_be_tc
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To: Sirius Lee

Agree...0 speaks in opposites.


46 posted on 05/14/2013 6:04:07 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Joe Boucher; markomalley
Boehner and McConnel are such disappointments. “leaders”?

Obama has dirt on both of them count on it...

47 posted on 05/14/2013 6:08:55 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: markomalley

How long until Obama wraps himself in the Flag?


48 posted on 05/14/2013 6:08:58 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: markomalley
Replace Boehner with Wolf or someone competent...

The GOP House needs to call a special caucus to elect new leadership...

49 posted on 05/14/2013 6:09:46 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: markomalley

This country is so done, its too late to save it.

PC, illegals, hyphen names, freebies, IRS, google, obamacare, wars, arab spring, islam,stock market manipulation, food, energy, on and on. Everthing is corrupt! Everything...

Wake up America!!!


50 posted on 05/14/2013 6:16:13 AM PDT by seeker41 (Take back your country before it is too late-STOP islamic expansion in the USA)
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