Skip to comments.GOP defies Boehner on special Benghazi panel
Posted on 05/14/2013 3:56:13 AM PDT by markomalley
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If obongo is calling for an investigation into the latter then there's nothing there that can touch him, and if he's poo poohing the former he's neck deep in it, bank on it.
Way to go, Committee chairs!
Boehner has obviously been involved HELPING al Qaeda,
otherwise he would have been FOR this.
Boehner and McConnel are such disappointments.
Having McCain push this Committee leads me to suspect it.
I don’t trust McCain in anything.
Perhaps the select committee is not needed, perhaps Issa can handle this (I doubt it though). Don’t know which way to go on this one, but would love to see the Democrats elect a new Speaker.
Can’t just have Oversight Committee investigate all of the Obama & Co wrongdoings.
Boehner has got to realize people don’t trust government, and don’t trust him and his cronies, either.
Or be made to realize that fact.
We will have a new speaker soon... this man is pissing off everyone... but the communists.
I think Boehner is right on this one...the standing committees need to do their jobs and let their members ask their questions, whereas a Special Committee (like the 9/11 committee) could give Obama enough room to wiggle out with barely a scratch.
Bonehead is playing both ends against the middle here. He is trying not to look like Barry Soetoro (BS) enemy while at the same time trying to say the Congress is doing what they can to get to the bottom of these scandals.
Bonehead is worried he could lose his speaker’s job if the dems win and will not take on anything that does not have a 100% chance of success. He even lets BS crap on him by saying things like The Speaker had those documents, we gave him access last year implying he did not review them when he had a chance to do so.
On the select committee, they need someone with the heart of an investigator not some political chump to lead it. I am tired of the press releases that go no where like fast and furious when I was certain the cretain would be taken out in hand cuffs only to find out the matter was allowed to die out of its own weight. The firing of Walpin, that could have also been laid directly on BS but nothing happened then either. On and on, we are fighting not only the dems and the media, we are fighting RINO incompetence.
After following Fast and Furious just as closely as I have followed Benghazi, I ask Chairman Issa how many people have gone to jail as a result of his investigation? What do we know that David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh didn't have first? What happened?
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Neither do I. I assume that the subcommittees already have their marching orders. Seems that they could be allowed to go forward. I'd like to see Armed Services get testimony from the officers on duty on 9/11/13.
Someone get that testicle-free weephead out of the Speakers Chair and get someone in there with a pair. He isn’t this wimpy when it comes to smacking down Conservatives. He’s quick to do that.
“Boehner and McConnel are such disappointments.
leaders? Horse shit”
Hastert and Frist before them were also weak. With the exception of the early days of Gingrich as Speaker, the GOP establishment has been unable to develop and put in place effective leadership at the national level:
George H.W. Bush
George W. Bush
Bob Livingston - Gingrich successor as speaker who resigned
Mel Martinez - RNC Chairman before Steele
It is impossible to fight a war for survival with vapid leadership.
Is Boehner leading from the rear again?
Boehner is waiting for Pelosi to request a select committee..
I fear we’d see a repeat of what happened with Clinton on the Cox and Thompson reports, which is what Holder et al have already done with all the Congressional investigations: refuse to honor subpoenas. Unless a select committee is ready to arrest people like Eric Holder who defy their subpoenas, deadlines, etc. 90 days is not long enough to get answers from anybody. If both Issa’s group and a select committee have the ability to subpoena, it seems like the major difference is that a select committee is limited to 90 days, and that would be a bad thing given this regime’s stonewalling.
Is there some legal ability that a select committee has, that Issa’s committee doesn’t have? What is the advantage to make up for the time restriction?
Spot on. This needs to be repeated over and over. Let's not take our eyes off the ball.
The scandal broke not because of ANY Repub Establishment did anything, it was due to Levin's persistence and pressuring the right person.
whatever happened to fast ‘n furious?????
my guess is the same will happen here...
it will just go away..
He’s definitely trying to distract from Benghazi, but I think his call for an investigation of the IRS means something like the “investigation” they did of Benghazi...you know, the one that ended by saying it was nobody’s fault, nothing happened, or maybe a couple of flunkies dropped the ball but, heck, that’s to be expected...
He doesn’t want a real investigation of anything, believe me. The only type of investigation he wants is something that he hopes will contain and suppress the information.
I believe some part of Fast n’ Furious has made it to the courts, but it seems to be bogged down there.
We should take our time with these investigations....draw them OUT!
Not one among em worth a thimble of spit
Did anyone see this?
Was everyone beging played?
Or,is this more disinformation?
They're looking out for their own asses and no one else like good republicans.
I support regular order and Issa. Let the process continue,
Those seeking limelight must be disregarded while the layers within layers are uncovered. Speed is not beneficial to a through process
I went to the link for just a sec, (only because of you).
FWIW, I don’t believe hardly anything WND posts.
Reading the headline, I don’t buy that at all.
Yes, but McC and Boehner are ULTIMATELY the result of the collective decisions made by Republican primary voters in two states and then their party membership in both houses. Does not endear one to the wisdom of Republican primary voters
Now why do you suppose this is the case? Usually, the Democrats make a big fuss when there is no co-sponsor. Could it be that they are all hiding under rocks?
After all, the Democrats did hide the fact that Gregory Hicks is a registered Democrat who voted twice for Obama.
Good for Wolf! Boehner plays golf too much with Obama, do you not think?
It is my understanding that a Select Committee is under no time constraints and can even span from one Congress to the next. A select committee exists until it completes the task that it was formed to do.
My thoughts exactly.
McCain et al are jealous. They are missing out on the glory.
They crave being part of the action.
You express my concerns. Special committee if too narrowly defined could overlook important information.
Freepers should read this paragraph at least twice and consider who would be on and who be left off a Select Committee.
“They maintain that the 90-day timeline would allow for administration stonewalling, and with only 19 members on the committee 10 of which would be the committee chairmen and ranking members of the panels with jurisdiction said it would be difficult to appoint standout questioners to the select panel.”
Even on Issa’s committee he is no better than the third best questioner. He would get two spots on a Select Commmittee and he would take one of them. Same deal on four other committees. We would get chairmen, maybe good, maybe bad and one maybe competent or just senior member of each committee.
Frankly, just letting Issa take the lead may not be a bad idea.
I've built a Benghazi Timeline - it could make its own post... feel free...
Our military is ready to rescue the Ambassador and his
staff, but are given the order to "Stand Down" by Obama.
The Blame Game Begins
Team Obama/Hillary race into action within 24 hours
blaming, naming and arresting an innocent filmmaker
while apologizing to violent Muslims.
The coverup, whitewash and media blackout begin when
their lies fall apart.
In stark contrast to her rush to blame and pass the buck,
Hillary feigns illness, flees the country and drags her feet
Supporters squeal "It was so looonnngg ago".
"But what difference does it make?!?!"
How it should end...
“I ask Chairman Issa how many people have gone to jail as a result of his investigation?”
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But we here at FR pride ourselves on our fidelity to the Constitution and to the separation of powers that it codifies. In that light, Congress is the legislative branch, not the judicial branch. Congressional investigations should not have “jail” as a goal. Indeed, not even the judicial branch should have that as their goal. Their goal should be justice - which may include incarceration, but may just as well have vindication and liberty. Indeed, if pure justice is not the goal then we have a problem.
I would be appalled if Issa’s investigations had as their goal “jail” for their objects. Suppose the democrats controlled congress, could I sit back if one of Pelosi’s committee chairmen sought “jail” for a conservative? I should hope not! I would oppose it, not just because it was against my political ideas, but also because it was against the Constitution. The very idea that a congressional committee investigation could result in jail is totally unconstitutional and totally against my view of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Let’s be clear, many of the people who have testified before Issa’s committee deserve jail (as far as I can tell), but Issa, his committee, and the congress must not become instruments of justice in the strict sense of the word. That violates the Constitution. In their legislative oversight they must be instruments of truth, which should then be used for legislation. Findings can and should be turned over to the Judicial branch as needed, but Issa and his committee have no judicial functions whatsoever.
On FR I have seen a lot of positive things about Issa, but I have also seen many negative things. Most of the negative comments have centered on why he did not DO SOMETHING about the corruption. Yes, why did Issa not just send the police in to Holder’s office and have him arrested? Why? Why did he not send them in to arrest Obama? Issa is a legislator, not an executive or a judge. We do not have a form of government open to coup d’etat and putsch. At least until now, and we must resist with all of our strength any move toward that form of “justice.”
Even impeachment deals with removal from office, and not ordinary judicial matters. Should the House of Representatives impeach any political office holder and the Senate convict him, what sentence can they give him? Life in prison? Death? A fine of $50,000? As I understand it, none of those. Only removal from office.
Issa is doing a great job, and we need to take courage from that, and give courage to him and his colleagues as well.
I hope you're right. But McCain makes me nervous.
It needs to be done. Unfortunately, the GOP “leadership” (HA!) is more focused on the minor issue of the WH putting out BS talking points, and not at all concerned about the fact the Obama administration left these guys to twist in the wind. The GOP is going after the shiny beads, or more to the point, they’re only looking at treating the symptoms and not curing the disease. Then again, why should they? They’re as much a part of the disease as the Democrats.
Am I the only one who who agrees with Victoria Toensing that a “select committee” is a bad idea? The fact that McQueeg wants one ought to tell you what you need to know about how good an idea this is.
Special prosecutor time.
The IRS thing is a ruse to get the focus off of the real game. It’s real and it’s a problem, but was tossed in the fire to divide Congress. And it’s working.
The AP phone tap is, in my opinion, an act of collusion between the AP and the WH to give them something to print ahead of everything. This morning, it’s all that the press wants to talk about. “Oh, we are the REAL victims!” FUAP
Obama has dirt on him, just like Petraeus. He need to step down, McConnell too. I wish WE the people could choose the leaders.
I have been complaining to people that it appears he is totally incompetent, as he has no knowledge of the things going on in his administration. Seems to work better on low information. They hear about the main topic, but don’’t quite get it. Incompetence they nod their heads. Too much golf and vacations. No handling of their lower staff seems to resonate.
Agree...0 speaks in opposites.
Obama has dirt on both of them count on it...
How long until Obama wraps himself in the Flag?
The GOP House needs to call a special caucus to elect new leadership...
This country is so done, its too late to save it.
PC, illegals, hyphen names, freebies, IRS, google, obamacare, wars, arab spring, islam,stock market manipulation, food, energy, on and on. Everthing is corrupt! Everything...
Wake up America!!!