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"A senior House Republican aide said, “It should be pretty clear after last week that there is already a committee leading the overarching investigation, and that is Chairman Issa’s committee."

After following Fast and Furious just as closely as I have followed Benghazi, I ask Chairman Issa how many people have gone to jail as a result of his investigation? What do we know that David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh didn't have first? What happened?

Absolutely NOTHING.

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13 posted on 05/14/2013 4:19:07 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: MestaMachine

“I ask Chairman Issa how many people have gone to jail as a result of his investigation?”

MestaMachine -

I greatly appreciate your dedication to getting out the truth to people in general, to to your ping list in particular. Please keep me on your list.

But we here at FR pride ourselves on our fidelity to the Constitution and to the separation of powers that it codifies. In that light, Congress is the legislative branch, not the judicial branch. Congressional investigations should not have “jail” as a goal. Indeed, not even the judicial branch should have that as their goal. Their goal should be justice - which may include incarceration, but may just as well have vindication and liberty. Indeed, if pure justice is not the goal then we have a problem.

I would be appalled if Issa’s investigations had as their goal “jail” for their objects. Suppose the democrats controlled congress, could I sit back if one of Pelosi’s committee chairmen sought “jail” for a conservative? I should hope not! I would oppose it, not just because it was against my political ideas, but also because it was against the Constitution. The very idea that a congressional committee investigation could result in jail is totally unconstitutional and totally against my view of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Let’s be clear, many of the people who have testified before Issa’s committee deserve jail (as far as I can tell), but Issa, his committee, and the congress must not become instruments of justice in the strict sense of the word. That violates the Constitution. In their legislative oversight they must be instruments of truth, which should then be used for legislation. Findings can and should be turned over to the Judicial branch as needed, but Issa and his committee have no judicial functions whatsoever.

On FR I have seen a lot of positive things about Issa, but I have also seen many negative things. Most of the negative comments have centered on why he did not DO SOMETHING about the corruption. Yes, why did Issa not just send the police in to Holder’s office and have him arrested? Why? Why did he not send them in to arrest Obama? Issa is a legislator, not an executive or a judge. We do not have a form of government open to coup d’etat and putsch. At least until now, and we must resist with all of our strength any move toward that form of “justice.”

Even impeachment deals with removal from office, and not ordinary judicial matters. Should the House of Representatives impeach any political office holder and the Senate convict him, what sentence can they give him? Life in prison? Death? A fine of $50,000? As I understand it, none of those. Only removal from office.

Issa is doing a great job, and we need to take courage from that, and give courage to him and his colleagues as well.


39 posted on 05/14/2013 5:42:21 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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Can someone explain to me why a select committee would be restricted to 90 days? Did Ken Starr have a 90 day window?

Since it appears to me that Mark Levin understands the workings of our government far better than I, and his vote is for a committee, I am inclined to go with his recommendation.

What Issa is doing has been interesting, but it feels more like random meetings that just pop up and nothing concrete comes of them. Maybe I am just not understanding what the advantage is to letting Issa run with this. And when does the under oath part come in?

Also, if Cheney is for a select committee, I have far more confidence in him then Boehner!


66 posted on 05/14/2013 7:55:42 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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