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Michigan District Fires All Teachers, Closes Every School
TakePart ^ | 5/13/13 | Suzi Parker

Posted on 05/14/2013 5:36:30 AM PDT by EBH

Summer break has started very early for kids in one Michigan school district.

Buena Vista schools have been closed for five days already, and on Monday, the district's website stated that the school would be closed until further notice. For good reason, this decision has parents, and the community, up in arms.

The problem in Buena Vista is that the school district, educating approximately 450 kids, is out of money. All the teachers have been laid off and a financial emergency has been declared. The district has suffered from declining enrollment, which, in turn, has led to a loss of $3 million in state funding since 2010.

In an effort to keep schools open, teachers said they would work without pay. This is not possible under Michigan law so educators have been left in limbo. To make matters worse, the staff has also lost their health insurance.

The Buena Vista School District website states that they consider it their "highest calling to be entrusted with the care and education of the community’s children."

This sounds nice, but what about the students left hanging with unfinished class work? This lingering question has yet to be answered.

In the midst of the chaos, parents have been trying to transfer their children to other districts. Given the school year is almost over, it's not the most opportune time for kids to switch schools. Some nearby districts are looking at every student on a case-by-case basis.

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Boom!
1 posted on 05/14/2013 5:36:30 AM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

Boomdy Boom BOOM!


2 posted on 05/14/2013 5:37:56 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: EBH

So where did they spend the money?


3 posted on 05/14/2013 5:38:43 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: EBH

Now maybe the kids can learn something? Bet none of the teachers understand why socialism doesn’t work.

Pray for America to Wake Up


4 posted on 05/14/2013 5:39:37 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: EBH

The government spent all the money on ‘diversity’ programs and researching if shrimp can walk on treadmills, and also on terrorist agencies overseas.


5 posted on 05/14/2013 5:39:41 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: EBH

Were I a homeowner in that district, I would withhold that part of my property taxes that represents School Board Assessments and enroll my child in a private school.

If enough people did this, the state would have to take action and make that school board stop pissing away money.


6 posted on 05/14/2013 5:40:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: EBH
In Pennsylvania, urban school districts like Harrisburg, Philadelphia, Reading, and York lost 10 times more in state aid than affluent school districts in recent years. About $860 million in school funding cuts will likely result in more distressed school districts.

Gotta love that spin. Poor school districts are "out of money" because nasty Republican governors are cutting their state aid ten times more than aid to affluent districts. Sounds horrible. But, of course, what's left unsaid is that the poor districts are the ones getting the money. If an affluent district isn't getting aid, then its "aid" budget isn't being cut at all. And the idea that schools are "out of money" is more spin. The schools aren't "out of money"; they aren't taking enough it to support their massive, bloated, administration-laden cost structures. That is the issue.

7 posted on 05/14/2013 5:42:52 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: EBH

Our county schools are faced with a similar problem.

Declining enrollment means bad news for a lot of teachers and administrators. The schools will not close, but drastic cuts in staff, teachers and number of schools will occur this summer.

There is simply no alternative


8 posted on 05/14/2013 5:43:04 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: AppyPappy

What they are saying on the radio here is that they used some funds from the state inappropriately and were denied further funding so that caused a huge deficit.

Also just a few minutes ago on WSGW heard that seniors will graduate this year, in spite of not being able to attend class. They will also do some enrichment stuff this summer, but I wonder how they can even do this without paying the union teachers.


9 posted on 05/14/2013 5:43:42 AM PDT by Mrs. P (Figures can lie, and liars can figure.)
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To: Gaffer

bump


10 posted on 05/14/2013 5:43:59 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: EBH

Michigan District Fires All Teachers, Closes Every School...I.Q.s improve 50%.


11 posted on 05/14/2013 5:45:54 AM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: EBH
Or to push a recurrent theme...


12 posted on 05/14/2013 5:46:25 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: bert

Our schools just went through some cuts here due to declining enrollment. They closed several schools and consolidated the classes.

What they didn’t do? Layoff any teachers etc. All the staff transferred with the kids. Smart eh?


13 posted on 05/14/2013 5:46:26 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: AppyPappy

My analysis......

At some point there was a budget based on an actual and or estimated number of students. If the number drops during the year, the day came when there was no money left and still before the end of the year.

Since there were students, there was still money coming in but not adequate to fund the remaining days.


14 posted on 05/14/2013 5:48:51 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: EBH

Proof, once again, that the American public schools are there to provide jobs for Democrats, not educate children.


15 posted on 05/14/2013 5:50:00 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: bert

My prediction:

Someone was skimming money somewhere. That’s what usually happens when systems suddenly run out of money.
In Virginia, students have to attend school for a minimum number of days to graduate. We hit a snag when we had a snowstorm after the last day was announced. The kids had to go to school in the snow.


16 posted on 05/14/2013 5:52:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: EBH

These parents can educate their kids for almost free these days, if they have access to a library or a computer and the will and drive to do it.

Check out Khan Academy, Ron Paul Academy (online) , any history books from the libary (written pre-1960), great literature, etc. Plus there are massive amounts of homeschooling materials available for pretty low cost, especially if you buy second hand.

If these parents cared enough they could do it. Doesn’t solve the problem of how to proceed if moms are working, but I’m just saying - a government school system really isn’t necessary for education.


17 posted on 05/14/2013 5:53:08 AM PDT by boxlunch
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
How heroic of these teachers to offer to work without pay knowing that Michigan law would never actually allow it to happen. /s

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Michigan legislative action thread
18 posted on 05/14/2013 5:53:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Eggs Ackley! Declining enrollment means the schools must downsize.


19 posted on 05/14/2013 5:53:48 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: EBH

The recent announcement was that there would be schools closed, teachers laid off and the size of the administrative staff was being reviewed.

The uproar is over what schools will be closed and how the potential grade adjustments and placements will be made.


20 posted on 05/14/2013 5:54:10 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert

Schools in most areas of this country are run by, administered by school boards in the respective counties, burroughs, etc.

Their primary source of funding is through that part of the local property tax assessments that the school boards assess. It is usually routed through state administered dole-outs, but the source is property taxes.

Declining enrollment doesn’t reduce property taxes. If the state is paying from assessments based on enrollment, then some sumbitch in the state hierarchy is spending the extra because I’d be a dollar to a donut the school board sure as hell didn’t drop the tax assessment.

I’d raise holy hell there if I were a homeowner in the country and at the state level. There is some chicanery going on here IMO.


21 posted on 05/14/2013 5:54:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: EBH

A madrasa coming soon


22 posted on 05/14/2013 5:56:27 AM PDT by edcoil (If the man was accused of leadership, there would not be enough evidence to convict him.)
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To: AppyPappy

Having not had snow recently, we did not have that precise problem. Not too long ago however the kids made up the snow loos days in June. Even if schools are open in the snow some will not attend and the money will be lost. In june, everybody comes to school


23 posted on 05/14/2013 5:57:21 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Gaffer

You would discover that you don’t really own your property, when it is sold to the highest bidder to pay those withheld taxes.

How in the hell did we get this far down this road?


24 posted on 05/14/2013 5:58:31 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: boxlunch
The uneducated teaching the uneducated. Many Schools have stopped teaching kids how to learn.
Instead they teach the kids what to learn. Big difference. And I would never assume that just
because a person is a parent they have knowledge to teach. Many up there are dropouts.

Post not directed at you, just saying what I'm thinking. /salute

25 posted on 05/14/2013 6:00:12 AM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism needs a re-awakening plan for the American public)
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To: Mr. K

So what about the shrimp? Can they?


26 posted on 05/14/2013 6:01:49 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: listenhillary

I realized this. That is why I said “if enough people did this.”

Do you realize how bad off a government (even Federal) would be if only the taxpayers withheld their payments even for 3 to 6 months?


27 posted on 05/14/2013 6:03:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: EBH
Some more good news out of Michigan.

Court Rules School Districts Cannot Use Public Resources to Withhold Union Dues School unions now responsible for collecting dues from their own members
28 posted on 05/14/2013 6:03:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: EBH
For good reason, this decision has parents, and the community, up in arms.

Deprived of your government baby-sitters? Might have to care for your OWN kids 24/7?

Bummer.

29 posted on 05/14/2013 6:05:34 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: EBH
In an effort to keep schools open, teachers said they would work without pay.

ROTFLMAO!! I'm sure...martyrs for the cause...

30 posted on 05/14/2013 6:07:23 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

lol


31 posted on 05/14/2013 6:07:59 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: EBH
To make matters worse, the staff has also lost their health insurance.

OH NOES!!!!!

32 posted on 05/14/2013 6:08:37 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: boxlunch
If these parents cared enough they could do it.

Shhhhh...

33 posted on 05/14/2013 6:09:13 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Gaffer

It’s been a dream of mine to have 30 to 50 million Americans not file taxes to finally get their attention.


34 posted on 05/14/2013 6:11:21 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: InvisibleChurch

yes, it appears they can! there is a youtube video of the results

See your tax dollars at work.


35 posted on 05/14/2013 6:11:50 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: EBH
What do you call a headline like this?

District Fires All Teachers, Closes Every School

A good start.

See tagline.

36 posted on 05/14/2013 6:11:52 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Separate school and state, before it's too late!)
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To: listenhillary

If you claim the full deductions and withholding amounts, even some over, you’ll have to pay at the end of the year.

I regularly over claim to the point of no penalty, and then I wait until April 14 or 15 to file electronically.

I paid them $12,000 this year, no penalty or interest. Were I more devious, I supposed I could have mailed them a check for $500 saying that’s all I could pay now and can I please work out a payment schedule with them? that I could delay even longer.

Their only source of “no-sh!t” real income is from dumbass taxpayers that have the cash to give. None of this Fed buying T bills with Scrip money that has only a fart behind it for value.

This government is corrupt to the core. Giving them real money just gets them further down that road to destruction of this country.


37 posted on 05/14/2013 6:17:03 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

No, they would seize your property. They don’t care about your reasons to do or not do something, you will render unto Caesar what is his.


38 posted on 05/14/2013 6:21:54 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: bert

Well yeah...if enrollment drops, that means reduced need for staff.

Staff are paid because they are needed. If not needed, they are dismissed. No hard feelings, just normal real world business.


39 posted on 05/14/2013 6:22:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Gaffer

Hard to do that with your employer cutting it from the top.


40 posted on 05/14/2013 6:24:56 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: InvisibleChurch
So what about the shrimp? Can they?

Damn straight. Let's concentrate on the important issue here.

41 posted on 05/14/2013 6:25:50 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

At least the shrimp might be learning something as opposed to liberals who never seem to learn anything.


42 posted on 05/14/2013 6:30:16 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: EBH

This is the lower corner of the Thumb of MI. Rural america better get ready.

Schools Administrators should not pay well. Should not have great insurance.

Schools should be private.

The teachers should be Contractors.

There should not be $30million dollar stadiums for high school kids.


43 posted on 05/14/2013 6:31:25 AM PDT by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: Baseballguy

You could eliminate 90% of the employees in school administration and not miss a beat.


44 posted on 05/14/2013 6:32:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

When kids don’t show up in school, the district doesn’t get the daily attendance money for that student. Minorities don’t show up, not even for the free food, and the school funding suffers.


45 posted on 05/14/2013 6:33:08 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: InvisibleChurch

If you put a little cocktail sauce behind them, they actually run.


46 posted on 05/14/2013 6:41:19 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: EBH
But education isn't about the money or the school lunches, it's about the children. Those schools should just be open.

(lol)

47 posted on 05/14/2013 6:51:09 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: EBH
In an effort to keep schools open, teachers said they would work without pay. This is not possible under Michigan law so educators have been left in limbo.

This is Obama’s America now; government doesn’t have to obey the law anymore. Let them teach if they want to.

48 posted on 05/14/2013 7:11:44 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

I find it sickly amusing when LIB asshats have to face consequences. Bwahahahahahaaaa! Maybe someone should do as 10-year-back audit and arrest the scoundrels who squandered money from the taxpayers?


49 posted on 05/14/2013 7:17:25 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: MaxMax

I can see your concern, but if you think parents are not educated enough, why would you think school teachers would be better? Most school teachers are themselves products of the dumbed down educational system, especially if they attended public schools and a public university for their degree.

When parents choose to direct their children’s learning, often they become educated in the process though what their children are learning. Then at high school levels, as I mentioned, there are all kinds of amazing online learning tools available now .. For example, Ron Paul’s new homeschool curriculum (partly designed by Gary North) has courses taught in economics by college professors in Austrian/Mises economic theory. - I had never heard of Austrian economics vs. Keynesian all the way through an electrical engineering degree in college - but learned through reading a lot the last 10 years, through Free Republic links, through my husband’s reading & learning, etc. Now I know it’s something I want my children to at least be exposed to in high school, even if they don’t completely understand it - they can get the basics so that when they listen to economic reports, or politicians making promises or blathering on, they will be able to see through to the reality of how things work.

And yes, a big part of that if you use a pretty classical approach, is the kids learn to research and learn and use logic to think for themselves.

I don’t think you are going to get that in your local public school.

Yes it takes some self discipline and dedication, I’m just saying I don’t think a lot of public school teachers have that desire to keep learning and growing themselves, from what I’ve seen. Not wanting to insult any public school teachers on FR, I’m sure if they are fans of FR they do want to learn and grow! I’m just saying, often parents/ especially moms, get challenged and become better educated themselves as a result of being actively involved in their kids’ education. Then you get a two for one positive benefit - for two separate generations. That’s something I’m very grateful for, from personal experience.


50 posted on 05/14/2013 7:25:17 AM PDT by boxlunch (private school/homeschool mom)
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