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Jay Carney’s Waterloo
National Review ^ | May 14, 2013 | National Review

Posted on 05/14/2013 6:46:52 AM PDT by National Review

Jay Carney’s Waterloo: The White House spokesman flounders in front of a newly curious press corps.

By Charles C. W. Cooke

Thank you for that question,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said feebly when, early in Friday’s press conference, the issue of Benghazi was raised. And then he reflexively tried to recruit the questioner to his side. Look, Carney insisted, those darned Republicans are involved in an “ongoing attempt to politicize a tragedy that took four American lives.” We’re not going to fall into their trap and ask questions of the administration, are we? We’re not like those other outlets that are engaged in a “pattern of spreading misinformation.” Right, guys?

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: ap; benghazi; irs; jaycarney
Read more at: http://nationalreview.com/article/348217/jay-carney’s-waterloo
1 posted on 05/14/2013 6:46:52 AM PDT by National Review
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To: National Review

It is only going to get worse for Carney as this story unravels the preceeding stories too. Carney should resign immediately before he is indicted.


2 posted on 05/14/2013 6:50:08 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama - Is being YELLOW a high crime?)
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To: National Review

Mis-direct as opposed to answering question. The classic response of a liar. He I believe did nothing but only trying to defend the in-defensible. Like all of us working hard for a check and take care of family.


3 posted on 05/14/2013 6:50:09 AM PDT by edcoil (If the man was accused of leadership, there would not be enough evidence to convict him.)
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To: Rapscallion

Carney the Carney knows Baghdad Bob wasn’t imprisoned (long).....


4 posted on 05/14/2013 6:51:21 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: National Review
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5 posted on 05/14/2013 6:51:38 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: National Review

I’ll bet little J.C thought when he got into all this, his harmless lying and equivocation was a cute thing that helped his ideological bent and helped his employers.

I wonder if he ever really thought about whether his “lies” would be used to cover up the murder of Americans? Even one who was a “Democrat.”

Or, I could just be wrong and he is really the conniving lying sack of sh!t he has always been. What leads me to this side of the argument is his “special background briefing for reports that ‘matter.”


6 posted on 05/14/2013 6:52:29 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: National Review

We were reading here on FR almost the next day what really happened there.
About how the SEALs calls for help were ignored and all there were abandoned.


7 posted on 05/14/2013 6:53:16 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (ok)
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To: National Review
Bttt.

5.56mm

8 posted on 05/14/2013 6:53:35 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Rapscallion
It is only going to get worse for Carney as this story unravels the preceeding stories too. Carney should resign immediately before he is indicted.

Carney will not finish the month at the rate these scandals are popping!!

Q: When a "public servant" leaves the employment of the Fed Gov, does Congress had the power to subpoena them as private citizens??
9 posted on 05/14/2013 6:57:48 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Gaffer

“Or, I could just be wrong and he is really the conniving lying sack of sh!t he has always been”

That’s where I’ll put my money!


10 posted on 05/14/2013 6:59:08 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: National Review

This garbage is gonna make me a very rich man! Be sure to watch for my book.

11 posted on 05/14/2013 6:59:18 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: National Review

The Worst President Ever employs The Worst Press Secretary Ever to tell bald-faced lies to the lapdog press and the nation. Where is that scrappy bunch of reporters who relentlessly questions every Republican president, building mole hills such as the phony Valerie Plame kerfuffle into mountains to crush a presidency?

Today, many of the practitioners of state-run media are manning the water pumps to keep the sinking Obama presidency afloat by trying to spin his shameless lies into a rickety raft that can get them to a Hillary presidency.


12 posted on 05/14/2013 7:00:21 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Gaffer
What leads me to this side of the argument is his “special background briefing for reports that ‘matter.”

I wonder if the special "background" briefing for only certain reporters was the final straw for some of the news organizations?

" Hell hath no fury like a scorned reporter?

13 posted on 05/14/2013 7:03:49 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: National Review

an idiot who has outlived his usefullness...

I nominate Mo Dowd as his replacement. The picture threads will at least be entertaining.


14 posted on 05/14/2013 7:04:11 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: HereInTheHeartland

You got it.

The main point was immediately obvious.

Gross dereliction of duty.

Everything that followed was deployed only to cover up that gross dereliction.

If you put Americans somewhere, you protect them. It’s not rocket science.


15 posted on 05/14/2013 7:04:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Separate school and state, before it's too late!)
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He’s dead meat, but doesn’t know it yet....


16 posted on 05/14/2013 7:06:57 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Rapscallion

But that’s the problem with this libtard model—you resign, you get blamed. Why I say he’s in a pickle!


17 posted on 05/14/2013 7:07:44 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

I wouldn’t believe Carney if we both saw the same event and reported in the same manner! The man has no honesty!
I can’t stand the little ass or listen to him anymore, just like his idiot Boss!


18 posted on 05/14/2013 7:21:34 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: oldbrowser

The ones that “matter” were big three and those print and cable and blog entitities that are in this for the duration. The rest (conservatives, honest outlets and those with scruples) don’t matter.


19 posted on 05/14/2013 7:22:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Rapscallion
It is only going to get worse for Carney as this story unravels the preceding stories too. Carney should resign immediately before he is indicted.

His resignation would add to the controversy. I've been pondering what must be an intricate network of leverage between the politicians and bureaucrats involved. At some point, Obama is going to have to sacrifice some lambs on this and several other scandals ongoing. Hillary? Carney? Gen Patreus?

Here's the thing. The scapegoats will either:

1. Have to be complicit in the rouge to play the fall guy/girl in hopes of future accolades, power, prestige and/or wealth.

2. Be powerless to stop it.

I would expect that many of the folks closest to the President "know things" that balance any leverage. Hillary would not allow herself to be the scapegoat and would turn on Obama as America's Patriot. It could actually help her if she takes down Obama. But you have to wonder, what must Obama have over so many of these other people that they won't protect their own careers/lives/reputation? Patreus had an affair and was booted.

I suspect the pressure is not high enough yet. Once the press starts going after the President on these things. He'll start assigning blame. Then the truth should start coming out.

With democrats the pressure doesn't usually get high enough because the media controls the narrative (Sandy Burglar for Bill Clinton?). Then Republicans become cowards.

I would like to see a special investigation committee assembled in the house with the most aggressive young Tea Party advocates.

20 posted on 05/14/2013 7:23:23 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Rapscallion

I keep expecting him to at some point just throw up his hands in frustration and go running and screaming from the room.


21 posted on 05/14/2013 7:25:37 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Doofer
"He’s dead meat, but doesn’t know it yet...."

Indeed.

Dead man walking....

22 posted on 05/14/2013 7:26:11 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: EternalVigilance
The main point was immediately obvious.

Gross dereliction of duty.

I would have originally been open to the incompetence argument with regards to the Commander in Chief's involvement in Bengazi. With info out now, I am convinced that Valerie immediately explained the potential election consequences of any violent escalation and bringing attention to a terrorist attack on our Consulate. I think the election concern influenced a "Stand Down Order" from the White House. The Video excuse for the cause was the second part of that. I think the root cause was political and decisions were made based on future poll expectations and election influence.

23 posted on 05/14/2013 7:30:05 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: National Review
From the article:

I asked [White House spokesman] Earnest to explain the meaning of “deep background,” as defined by the White House, for my readers. He emails: “Deep background means that the info presented by the briefers can be used in reporting but the briefers can’t be quoted.”

In other words, you, who sat in on the "deep background" talks, can help spread the lies, but you can't attribute the liar from whom you got the lie.

My contempt for these misbegotten bastards knows no limits.

24 posted on 05/14/2013 7:32:27 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: Cheerio

‘does Congress had the power to subpoena them as private citizens??’

Yes.


25 posted on 05/14/2013 7:32:50 AM PDT by Delta Dawn
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To: bigbob

26 posted on 05/14/2013 7:33:02 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: National Review

At the next press briefing, he’ll be doing his impression of Chip Diller, the Omega frat pledge from “Animal House” - “REMAIN CALM!....ALL IS WELL!...ALL IS WELL!!!!!”


27 posted on 05/14/2013 7:39:14 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: National Review
"Thank you for that question,” White House spokesman Jay Carney..."

Generally, when politicians and their representatives say 'Thank you for that question,' it generally means that 'Thank you for that question is one of questions they dread most hearing.

It buys them a moment of time, a few seconds, to quickly compose themselves before coming up with, generally speaking, some stupid and nervous response.

28 posted on 05/14/2013 7:41:11 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: V_TWIN
"I keep expecting him to at some point just throw up his hands in frustration and go running and screaming from the room. "

*snicker*

29 posted on 05/14/2013 7:44:57 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: shooter223

It’s a shame that is being wasted on an old liberal.


30 posted on 05/14/2013 7:47:32 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: bigbob
"Mo Dowd"

Oh no you "dint"... Someone post a Zeta-Jones photo....

<8^)

31 posted on 05/14/2013 7:50:40 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Rapscallion

Carney is perhaps the most talented spin artist I have ever seen in public life. These are merely the consequences of defending the indefensible.


32 posted on 05/14/2013 8:00:19 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Gaffer

>> Or, I could just be wrong and he is really the conniving lying sack of sh!t he has always been.

Yeah. That one.

Don’t let that adolescent look fool you.

Like everyone else in the blue-lipped kenyan monkey’s administration, Carney is pure evil.


33 posted on 05/14/2013 8:02:23 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Rapscallion

I love watching that little weasel squirm. I only wish Gibbs was up there also so he could feel the love too. :-)


34 posted on 05/14/2013 8:08:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: National Review

Obongo’s”SpokesBoy”needs to GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


35 posted on 05/14/2013 8:21:28 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Tenacious 1

In the run up to this debacle, what we see is gross incompetence, complete disregard for the primary duty to protect Americans, no empathy for fellow human beings, and rank stupidity.

I have no doubt that the conversations you describe took place, and that political butt-covering quickly became the supreme interest.


36 posted on 05/14/2013 8:22:16 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Separate school and state, before it's too late!)
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To: National Review; All

Carney’s Waterloo???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj_9CiNkkn4


37 posted on 05/14/2013 8:47:16 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Tenacious 1

Valerie Jarrett’s name hasn’t been mentioned by any one, about any of this, by anyone in the press.

So creepy thinking maybe she’s the real President here.


38 posted on 05/14/2013 8:53:12 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: shooter223

I figgered she must be bi-polar or something to wed Michael Douglas.


39 posted on 05/14/2013 9:04:45 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Rapscallion

Actually it’ll get lots better for Carney. They’re dusting off a special seat at MSNBC for him as we speak.


40 posted on 05/14/2013 10:13:50 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: RinaseaofDs

Is it any coincidence that Valerie’s Twitter handle is @vj44?

She’s all over it. I wonder if she gave the stand down order.


41 posted on 05/14/2013 12:38:10 PM PDT by bootless ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."~RWR)
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To: National Review

When posting an article post the link to the article not the site’s main page, please. I know you put it in the comments but let’s all be consistent.


42 posted on 05/14/2013 12:42:08 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: bootless

Her name is nowhere here, and I just don’t see how that is possible. I know people pee their pants at the sound of her approach, and she does look like a sleestack from ‘Land of the Lost’, but there is only so much people are going to take before they flip on her.

You know who is laughing his a$$ off?

Axelrod.

He succeeded in getting the guy reelected, which essentially makes him a magician, and then he leaves the admin before all this stuff breaks.

This guy is my hero. If you can get people to buy Obama over Romney after everything Obama did to basically scream to the world his incompetence, you are in every sense of the world the best at what you do as a marketeer.


43 posted on 05/14/2013 12:47:22 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: National Review

Carney has no shame! He’s back out there today lips moving.


44 posted on 05/20/2013 11:54:10 AM PDT by Recompennation (rational governance requires rational people not liars much less indignant liars)
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