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Doctors advise more outings for man who beheaded fellow bus passenger [doc says low risk]
breitbart.com ^ | May 14, 2013

Posted on 05/14/2013 12:25:06 PM PDT by grundle

WINNIPEG, Manitoba (UPI) --

A man who beheaded a fellow Canadian bus passenger should be allowed to spend more supervised time in the outside world, his treatment team recommends.

Two psychiatrists taking care of Vince Li at the Selkirk Mental Health Center told a review board that Li has stopped having hallucinations and has been a model patient, the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. reported.

The 45-year-old Li was confined to the center after he was found not criminally responsible for beheading Tim McLean, 22, on a Greyhound bus in July 2008.

Li suffers from schizophrenia.

Dr. Steven Kremer told the Criminal Code Review Board Monday that Li scored very low on several tests for risk of violence, adding there is no evidence he would try to escape if taken on outings to Lockport and Winnipeg.

The board examines Li's condition annually and will make a decision on the recommendation next week.

Crown counsel Susan Helenchilde reminded the board of the magnitude of the attack on McLean, calling it one of the most "macabre crimes" ever committed in Manitoba.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: blamecanada; murderone; napl; notguilty; reasonofinsanity
The fact that this guy beheaded an innocent person is proof that he's at very high risk of being violent. The fact that the doctor says otherwise - because of a test that he gave him - is ridiculous. Real world experience trumps bogus theories every time.
1 posted on 05/14/2013 12:25:06 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

I say take him for one last outing. A nice sightseeing flight into Northern Canada and then a shove out the door at 10,000 feet.


2 posted on 05/14/2013 12:26:13 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: grundle

Maybe the good doctor should let him live with himself and his family for 6 months. :)


3 posted on 05/14/2013 12:26:34 PM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: grundle

It’s OK.

He will be restricted from gun ownership in Canada.


4 posted on 05/14/2013 12:28:24 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: grundle

The article fails to mention that the doctors are also jihadists.


5 posted on 05/14/2013 12:28:32 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: dirtboy

I vote for sending him to DC, where even if he goes beserk again, there won’t be any significant loss.


6 posted on 05/14/2013 12:29:23 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Praying that the Good LORD cleanses OUR Country of the Evil Scum in Washington!)
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To: dirtboy
The wheel of a Greyhound Bus would do wonders on this guys neck.
7 posted on 05/14/2013 12:31:10 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: grundle

Sure. Why Not? The world is already FUBAR.

Maybe we can make a game show out of it!


8 posted on 05/14/2013 12:32:37 PM PDT by FatherFig1o155 (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil. -- Thomas Paine)
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To: grundle; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

9 posted on 05/14/2013 12:35:20 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar)
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To: grundle

Ack AckAck AckAckAckAck Ack AckAckAck AckAck!


10 posted on 05/14/2013 12:35:44 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: grundle

And if they let him out and he shoots somebody liberals will blame the gun.


11 posted on 05/14/2013 12:36:08 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: grundle
Two psychiatrists taking care of Vince Li at the Selkirk Mental Health Center told a review board that Li has stopped having hallucinations and has been a model patient

I say put him up at their house.

12 posted on 05/14/2013 12:37:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: grundle

hmmmm....let’s see, he wants to go to Winnipeg, and he’s good at taking people’s heads off.

Sign him up, Jets.


13 posted on 05/14/2013 12:39:57 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: grundle

Let’s ask Tim McLean if Mr. Li should get to go outside and play. Oh wait, someone chopped off his head.


14 posted on 05/14/2013 12:40:37 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: grundle

Back in the 80s when I was living in Alaska, some guy had pled the Twinkie after murdering a man and a women. He spent some time in the cuckoo’s nest for “treatment”. Finally, the shrinks proclaimed that he was good to go, back to normal and was ready to be a credit to society and find the cure for cancer. The weekend before he was scheduled to be released back into society, they decided to let him have a weekend “furlough”. He murdered four teenagers in Anchorage while out on “furlough”. I heard he was going to plead the Twinkie again.


15 posted on 05/14/2013 12:41:03 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: grundle

I’ll wait for the next bus, please.


16 posted on 05/14/2013 12:43:14 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: grundle

Shrink here: Libs love to point out - and back it up with “studies” - that the mentally ill are no more likely to act violently than anyone else in society.

What they don’t tell you is that these studies, by design, exclude one or more of the following groups from their study:
1. Those with a history of violence.
2. Those not taking their meds.
3. Those abusing drugs and alcohol.

Those, in case you haven’t guessed, are very large subgroups!

The truth is, the morbidity and mortality of people working in the mental health field far outranks that of the police and the military.


17 posted on 05/14/2013 12:48:53 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: grundle

I remember a photo on the net showing him holding the severed head in the bus (can’t find it any more however). This criminally insane nutcase must NEVER be released from confinement. Sorry.


18 posted on 05/14/2013 12:54:14 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Spruce

19 posted on 05/14/2013 12:56:40 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Psychiatry is, at best, a pseudoscience which loves to test their theories by using the public as guinea pigs. Recall that as recently as the 1970s, they correctly diagnosed homosexuality as a mental illness and then gave in to political pressure to change their position.

The only safe way to release this jay-bird is through a trap door on one of these contraptions. Then let the man upstairs sort them out.

20 posted on 05/14/2013 12:59:55 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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The only guaranteed safe release program for nut-jobs like this:
Ft. Smith gallows.
The cure is in the trap-door.
21 posted on 05/14/2013 1:03:42 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: grundle

Vince needed a .45cal 230gr HP in the head; it’s still not too late.


22 posted on 05/14/2013 1:12:41 PM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: grundle

The psychiatrists can take him for nice walks.


23 posted on 05/14/2013 1:15:20 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: grundle; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
No.


24 posted on 05/14/2013 1:15:32 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: popdonnelly

He’ll never get ahead in life if he doesn’t get out and about.


25 posted on 05/14/2013 1:23:32 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: grundle

Just get some fresh air...perfect cure for chopping someones head off!


26 posted on 05/14/2013 1:26:13 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: carriage_hill

That would restore the chemical shortage of lead in his body and make him fit to be with other human beings. An excellent therapy if I ever heard one!


27 posted on 05/14/2013 1:27:32 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: grundle
Well, sure. That makes perfect sense. Turn him loose.

Just because he was responsible for, but was found not criminally responsible for, beheading Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus in July 2008, doesn't mean he'd ever do it again, or be criminally responsible for doing it again.

I think there's a scientific consensus that once a schizophrenic stops having hallucinations, they're pretty much done with beheading people, too.

One other thing? Probably best to keep him off of Greyhound buses, you know, just to be on the safe side. But other than that, he's good to go!

28 posted on 05/14/2013 1:29:37 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: grundle

a great idea, actually.
the nice doctors can join him, too

on a neat bus tour to see the world outside the nut house


29 posted on 05/14/2013 1:32:22 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: grundle

Heads will roll if this guy ever gets out.


30 posted on 05/14/2013 1:35:54 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: grundle

I think the doctor should take him for a long ride on a Greyhound bus.


31 posted on 05/14/2013 1:46:20 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Vigilanteman

Fort Smith Ar!
Well they should at least give him a machet’e to really live the out doors!


32 posted on 05/14/2013 1:53:17 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: dirtboy

Yeah, he only murdered a white guy, WTF....


33 posted on 05/14/2013 2:00:40 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Back in the 80s when I was living in Alaska, some guy had pled the Twinkie after murdering a man and a women. He spent some time in the cuckoo’s nest for “treatment”. Finally, the shrinks proclaimed that he was good to go, back to normal and was ready to be a credit to society and find the cure for cancer. The weekend before he was scheduled to be released back into society, they decided to let him have a weekend “furlough”. He murdered four teenagers in Anchorage while out on “furlough”. I heard he was going to plead the Twinkie again.

They say insanity is doing the smae thing over and over and expecting a different result....

Lock up the Shrinks, they are insane...


34 posted on 05/14/2013 2:04:57 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Vigilanteman

There should be a New Verdict: Guilty as Hell By Reason of Insanity.

With the subtitle: “Time to clean the gene pool a bit”...


35 posted on 05/14/2013 2:07:15 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: grundle

I think they should start with a few sleepovers at the homes of his psychiatrists...


36 posted on 05/14/2013 2:07:38 PM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: F15Eagle

Certain acts are “Irredeemable” and if insane while doing them so shouldn’t matter to the sentancing.


37 posted on 05/14/2013 2:14:12 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: trubolotta

Zero recidivism, for sure.


38 posted on 05/14/2013 2:25:02 PM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: Kozak

I wonder if the good doctors would sign an agreement that if the lunatic kills anyone, they would accept criminal and personal liability as accomplices and bear the penalty? It is too easy for these elitist asses to make pronouncements of the risks everyone else must take while bearing none of the risk themselves.


39 posted on 05/14/2013 2:27:08 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: grundle

Dude needs to be EXECUTED....not entertained

The stupidity of Criminal Rights


40 posted on 05/14/2013 2:51:02 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

apparently


41 posted on 05/14/2013 2:52:38 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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