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BREAKING: 7 Caught Trespassing At Quabbin Reservoir; Patrols Stepped Up Across State (Arabs)
CBS Boston ^ | 5/15/2013 | CBS

Posted on 05/15/2013 3:40:18 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas

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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Just checkin the flouridation levels. /s


151 posted on 05/15/2013 8:09:14 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Nita Nupress

Yeah, even when Russia and Saudi Arabia warn them to do a background check the FBI can’t get it right. We should trust them now? Why would we do that? LOL


152 posted on 05/15/2013 8:09:18 AM PDT by tioga
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To: GOPsterinMA

Heard about this ?


153 posted on 05/15/2013 8:09:39 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Candor7

Use em for drone target practice in the desert.


154 posted on 05/15/2013 8:10:03 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: MaxMax
A Chemical Engineer probing a water supply? No RED FLAGS THERE, Nothing to see, move along.

Very big red flag. Water supply is the domain of civil engineers, not chemical engineers.

155 posted on 05/15/2013 8:11:20 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: faucetman

A biological attack could flourish in a drinking supply. It can be engineered to do so.

LLS


156 posted on 05/15/2013 8:26:58 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Diogenesis

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- QUESTION:

Is that Janet Holder or OJ Holder?

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157 posted on 05/15/2013 8:31:55 AM PDT by devolve ( ------- I*ve gotcher magic bullshiite right here 0pansy ---------)
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To: penelopesire

Thanks for the ping. So very thankful I moved out of the Boston area years ago. They honestly are a strange bunch.

I’m wondering about the visas - thinking of Beck’s information that some 15K are unaccounted for - just thinking out loud!


158 posted on 05/15/2013 8:37:01 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: DBrow

“It’s not unusual to find college students partying at a pond or reservoir. I guess being Pakistani makes it alarming.”

The temperature in that part of Mass on Tuesday night was in the mid to high 30s. There was no moon after midnight. Quabbin is in a very heavily wooded State forest. These Arabs were not there to party. This was at the least a recon mission.


159 posted on 05/15/2013 8:45:10 AM PDT by Batman11 (Obama is not American.. he has no clue what it is to be American.)
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To: faucetman

I saw a report on terrorism that poisoning a water supply was next to impossible. You would need TRUCKLOAD after truckload of poison otherwise it would get diluted beyond being effective.


but if you explored the dam and the intake areas for water supply, you could concentrate it very easily.................


160 posted on 05/15/2013 8:45:15 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: ransacked

One day everyone will realize this... but Boston, 9/11 and all of the other acts of terrorism were not painful enough... and that just tears me up inside. I do not understand it... I comprehend it but I just cannot get inside of that suicidal mind set.

LLS


161 posted on 05/15/2013 8:49:10 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: DeWalt

Thanks!

LLS


162 posted on 05/15/2013 8:50:19 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Of course we cannot mention their religious affiliation or the possibility of terorism. Wasn’t the Boston Marathon bombing just a couple of weeks ago?


163 posted on 05/15/2013 8:54:00 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: homegroan

You know, this would actually be a good place to use those small unmanned vehicles.


164 posted on 05/15/2013 8:58:43 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: penelopesire
Thanks for ping.

Related thread

Seven Foreigners Arrested After Trespassing at Quabbin Reservoir (Video)[Massachusetts terror?]

See post 7 & 10 in above thread

I wonder how much of this local news we are missing that may be water-related terror threats going down the rabbit hole?

165 posted on 05/15/2013 9:13:18 AM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: Batman11

Yeah, probably too late to be looking at the Eta Aquarids in a dark, moonless location. But timing is good for Comet PanSTARRS (C/2011 L4), which is passing Polaris this month.


166 posted on 05/15/2013 9:21:28 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

” No mention of their religious affiliation in any news accounts.”

Then they must be those extremist right wing Christians the homeland security department is constantly warning us about.


167 posted on 05/15/2013 9:45:57 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I bet you are glad to be out of there!! I truly don’t understand people whose leftwing ideology trumps self preservation...strange indeed.


168 posted on 05/15/2013 9:50:22 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: thouworm

Wow..I sure hope the authorities are connecting the dots. I truly don’t feel safe anymore with Obama and all the left wing ideologues in charge in government now.

Keeping prayers going that we can survive 4 more years of stunning incompetence, PC insanity and utter treason from these people!


169 posted on 05/15/2013 10:00:30 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Candor7

Send them off to Guatanamo.


170 posted on 05/15/2013 10:10:24 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: MaxMax

They use Ozone for this H2o supply, not Chlorine.


171 posted on 05/15/2013 10:20:47 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: 0.E.O
It's a huge reservoir in central Mass, which supplies the drinking water for Greater Boston. It appears that they passed "No Trespassing" signs. I suppose that they could plead ignorance.
172 posted on 05/15/2013 10:24:05 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: AuH2ORepublican

LOL...oops! ;)


173 posted on 05/15/2013 10:38:28 AM PDT by caww
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To: AuH2ORepublican

LOL...oops! ;)


174 posted on 05/15/2013 10:39:00 AM PDT by caww
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To: MaxMax

More specifically,

MWRA, like all water suppliers, disinfects its water to protect against harmful bacteria (from birds, animals, and even humans) that can enter into reservoirs. MWRA uses ozone to kill any harmful bacteria at the CWTP in Marlborough. Ozone leaves no taste or odor, and in fact improves the natural taste of the water. To protect the water as it travels through the miles of pipe to get to your house, MWRA uses an mild disinfectant called mono-chloramine that has very little taste or odor. Occasionally those with a sensitive palette may find their water has the odor of chlorine. It usually doesn’t last long, and is related to the normal adjustment of the mono-chlorine treatment. This is more likely in the summer when water is warmer. Chilling the water usually eliminates it. You can leave a pitcher of water in the refrigerator. - http://www.mwra.state.ma.us/04water/html/qual4concerns.htm

What advantages does ozone have over chlorine as a primary water disinfectant?: http://www.aces.edu/waterquality/faq/faq_results.php3?rowid=3742


175 posted on 05/15/2013 11:19:22 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I remember an old story I heard about Quabbin, that there were homes that used to be where the water is now, and some people refused to leave and were drowned. Doubt it was true.


176 posted on 05/15/2013 11:25:05 AM PDT by Viennacon (h)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
five men and two women ~ after midnight ~ out at the lake ~ one car ~

This sounds more like a couple of ladies enhancing their income through the provision of services to some young men!

177 posted on 05/15/2013 11:27:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Fresh Wind

178 posted on 05/15/2013 11:30:59 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

FWIW a little movie trivia. The Quabbin Reservoir was part of the plot line in the movie Dreamcatcher. It was to be contaminated with alien larvae but that failed.


179 posted on 05/15/2013 11:43:19 AM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: lonevoice

If they were American citizens, not only would they have been arrested, they would also have been detained indefinitely, and without counsel, a hearing or a trial, on the suspicion that they might be involved in terrorism.


180 posted on 05/15/2013 12:08:51 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: cradle of freedom

yes it would, but using drones would be too simple-instead they bought 4 wheelers and big Jeeps etc. so they can chase criminals thru the woods-more fun I guess ;)


181 posted on 05/15/2013 12:11:20 PM PDT by homegroan (Never make someone a priority when all you are to them is an option....)
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To: daniel1212
Great links, Thank you. That information is something I had no idea about.

/Salute

182 posted on 05/15/2013 12:15:48 PM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism needs a re-awakening plan for the American public)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Howie just mentioned this post...


183 posted on 05/15/2013 12:19:00 PM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: Truth29; All

They could be looking at blowing up the dam and supply pipes!


184 posted on 05/15/2013 12:49:38 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

They could be planning simply to blow the Dam up or the inlet pipe systems and screw up the water supplies for months...maybe it’s not about poison but about sabotage!


185 posted on 05/15/2013 12:53:57 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

No mention of a fence? Did the rabs climb a fence? Surely the reservoir is fenced. We had a similar incident at Bull Springs, Portland, OR’s water supply a couple years ago. One guy, had a camera, security cams caught him climbing the fence both ways and apparently snapping a few pics. They took his film and busted him for fence climbing.


186 posted on 05/15/2013 1:15:45 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: mdmathis6

“They could be looking at blowing up the dam and supply pipes!”

I’m guessing that if they had that much explosive, they would not go for an infrastructure target. In WWII, a typical anti-dam aerial bomb weighed in at about 300 lbs and needed precise placement (skip bombs).

The Marathon bombs were a couple pounds apiece.

McVeigh’s device, at 7000 lbs, may do some damage but unless it’s placed inside the dam, probably would not take it down because ANFO is pretty slow compared to TNT or Comp B.


187 posted on 05/15/2013 1:21:04 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Little Pig

“The Quabbin is in the middle of a state forest, and is pretty undeveloped.”

Great place to go drink and eat pork BBQ and no one will see you.


188 posted on 05/15/2013 1:30:26 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: mdmathis6

Here’s an update from Wikipedia- the dam-buster WWII bombs were over 9000 pounds:

Testing of Upkeep prototypes with inert filling was carried out at Chesil Beach, Dorset, flying from RAF Warmwell in December 1942, and at Reculver, Kent, flying from RAF Manston in April and May 1943, at first using a Vickers Wellington bomber.[11] However, the dimensions and weight of the full-size Upkeep were such that it could only be carried by the Avro Lancaster, which was the largest British bomber available at the time, and nonetheless had to undergo considerable modification in order to carry it.[12] In testing, it was found that Upkeep’s spherical casing would shatter on impact with water, but that the inner cylinder containing the bomb would continue across the surface of the water much as intended.[13] As a result, Upkeep’s spherical casing was eliminated from the design. Development and testing concluded on 13 May 1943 with the dropping of a live, cylindrical Upkeep bomb 5 miles (8 km) out to sea from Broadstairs, Kent, by which time Wallis had specified that the bomb must be dropped at “precisely” 60 feet (18 m) above the water and 232 miles per hour (373 km/h) groundspeed, with back-spin at 500 rpm: the bomb “bounced seven times over some 800 yards, sank and detonated”.[14]

In the operational version of Upkeep, known by its manufacturer as “Vickers Type 464”, the explosive charge was Torpex, originally designed for use as a torpedo explosive, to provide a longer explosive pulse for greater effect against underwater targets; the principal means of detonation was by three hydrostatic pistols, as used in depth charges, set to fire at a depth of 30 feet (9 m); and its overall weight was 9,250 pounds (4,196 kg), of which 6,600 pounds (2,994 kg) was Torpex. Provision was also made for “self-destruct” detonation by a fuze, armed automatically as the bomb was dropped from the aircraft, and timed to fire after 90 seconds.[15] The bomb was held in place in the aircraft by a pair of calipers, or triangulated carrying arms, which swung away from either end of the bomb to release it.[16] Back-spin was to begin 10 minutes before arriving at a target, and was imparted via a belt driven by a Vickers Jassey hydraulic motor mounted forward of the bomb’s starboard side. This motor was powered by the hydraulic system normally used by the upper gun turret, which had been removed.[citation needed] Aiming was by a pair of intersecting spotlight beams, which, when converged on a surface of water, indicated correct height for the aircraft, and by a simple, hand-held, triangular device: with one corner held up to the eye, projections on the other two corners would line up with pre-determined points on the target when it was at the correct distance for bomb release. In practice, this could prove awkward to handle, and some aircrews replaced it with their own arrangements, fixed within the aircraft itself, and involving chinagraph and string.[17]

On the night of 16/17 May 1943, Operation Chastise attacked dams in Germany’s Ruhr Valley, using Upkeep. Two dams were breached, causing widespread flooding and damage, and loss of life. The significance of this attack upon the progress of the war is debated.[18] British losses during the operation were heavy; eight of the 19 attacking aircraft failed to return, along with 53 of 113 RAF aircrew.[19] Upkeep was not used again operationally. By the time the war ended, the remaining operational Upkeep bombs had started to deteriorate and were dumped into the North Sea without their detonation devices.[20]

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189 posted on 05/15/2013 1:40:14 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: caww

Absolutely; no reason to trust them. Trust is earned...


190 posted on 05/15/2013 1:40:56 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
At this point, anything that happens to a liberal city does not phase me, it`s Darwinian. These ass-clowns are the circus behind O`Bozo, they voted for him so that he can now have the power to illegally let the moose-limbs in so I say f-`em, they`ll get what they asked for.

Just hope conservatives are smart enough to get the hell out of the liberal crap-holes before it`s too late, but maybe that's a Darwinian issue too, IF they`re too stubborn or stupid to move.

191 posted on 05/15/2013 1:41:47 PM PDT by nomad
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To: cherokee1
Surely the reservoir is fenced.

It has 118 miles of shoreline (http://www.foquabbin.org/faxfigs.html) Cost of a fence might be as low as 10k per mile but since it's government count on 200k per mile. Border fence is a couple million a mile at the very least.

192 posted on 05/15/2013 2:16:31 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: DBrow

I mentioned the inlet supply piping systems could be a target and might not need as much explosive.


193 posted on 05/15/2013 2:49:56 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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To: Pride in the USA

Thanks for the ping. Insanity!!

It’s midnight on a cold (temps in the 30s), moonless night: 2 carloads of 7 young Chemical Engineering students from 3 different Muslim countries, coming together from 5 different cities in the Northeast, trespassing on the water supply for BOSTON for no reason whatsoever, other than they were “curious.”

How many of these 7 will show up for their scheduled hearing and how many will have completely disappeared by then? Place your bets...


194 posted on 05/15/2013 2:58:14 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No, not until you pinged me. Thank you for the heads up!


195 posted on 05/15/2013 3:19:53 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: mdmathis6

http://www.lowimpacthydro.org/lihi-pending-application-ferc-no.13400-loring-road-hydroelectric-project-mwra-water-delivery-system-massachusetts.html

Luckily the aqueduct intake is miles from where the kids were. I share your concern, but I don’t think these kids were a threat. I think they were partying or goofing around, and went to a popular spot. If they were casing the dam, they’d do it in daytime- less suspicion and better light.


196 posted on 05/15/2013 3:44:31 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

All seven should have been "shot trying to escape". Thanks St_Thomas_Aquinas.
Thanks .

Obama's Fault! Impeach Now!


197 posted on 05/15/2013 3:56:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
No mention of their religious affiliation in any news accounts.

Only conservative Americans can be profiled...

198 posted on 05/15/2013 4:15:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (Jesus said, Give your money to the poor. NOT 'Give your neighbor's money to the poor' freeper kevao)
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To: Candor7
We teach them bio engineering and they do midnight toxicity experiments?

Refresh my memory - did we train German and Japanese students at our technical Universities during World War II?

199 posted on 05/15/2013 4:18:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (Jesus said, Give your money to the poor. NOT 'Give your neighbor's money to the poor' freeper kevao)
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To: Mouton
This was a perimeter probe IMO. Let’s go see if they have any electronic monitors.

That's my take too...

200 posted on 05/15/2013 4:25:27 PM PDT by GOPJ (Jesus said, Give your money to the poor. NOT 'Give your neighbor's money to the poor' freeper kevao)
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