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U.S. Military ‘Power Grab’ Goes Into Effect (Hold on to your Hats!)
longislandpress.com ^ | May 14, 2013 | Jed Morey

Posted on 05/15/2013 8:16:47 AM PDT by kimtom

The manhunt for the Boston Marathon bombing suspects offered the nation a window into the stunning military-style capabilities of our local law enforcement agencies. For the past 30 years, police departments throughout the United States have benefitted from the government’s largesse in the form of military weaponry and training, incentives offered in the ongoing “War on Drugs.” For the average citizen watching events such as the intense pursuit of the Tsarnaev brothers on television, it would be difficult to discern between fully outfitted police SWAT teams and the military.

The lines blurred even further Monday as a new dynamic was introduced to the militarization of domestic law enforcement. By making a few subtle changes to a regulation in the U.S. Code titled “Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies” the military has quietly granted itself the ability to police the streets without obtaining prior local or state consent, upending a precedent that has been in place for more than two centuries. .............

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cnsf; constitution; cw2; insurrection; lawenforcement; militarize; militarizele; military; ndaa; policestate; possecomitatus
In case no one else posted, sent to me by friend in new England area.
1 posted on 05/15/2013 8:16:47 AM PDT by kimtom
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To: kimtom
Picture with article;
2 posted on 05/15/2013 8:18:29 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

There’s very little that your typical donut eater likes more than getting dressed up in his attack suit and pretending he’s a Navy SEAL.

Unfortunately, this is a phenomenon that is nothing new, and has been seen growing by leaps and bounds nation-wide.


3 posted on 05/15/2013 8:23:32 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: kimtom

4 posted on 05/15/2013 8:25:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: kimtom

From the article:

But the focus on the DoD regulatory change obscures the creeping militarization that has already occurred in police departments across the nation. Even prior to the NDAA lawsuit, journalist Chris Hedges was critical of domestic law enforcement agencies saying, “The widening use of militarized police units effectively nullifies the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.”

This de facto nullification isn’t lost on the DoD.


5 posted on 05/15/2013 8:25:18 AM PDT by Perseverando (The truth is hate to those who hate the truth.)
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To: Jack Hammer

Yes. But the real soldiers, young dedicated men are accustomed to carrying upwards of 100 pounds of more on their backs long distances.

Many of these LEO/SWAT Rambo fat-assed wannabes would struggle to carry that extra dozen pack of donuts with them.


6 posted on 05/15/2013 8:27:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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'Weapons of war have no place on our streets,' US President Barack Obama said on February 4, 2013

REALLY?

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7 posted on 05/15/2013 8:28:25 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Gaffer

Very good.

“Hey, troop, what’s in the pack - jelly-filled or honey-glaze?”


8 posted on 05/15/2013 8:28:57 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: kimtom

This is unconstitutional.

There is a process set up so that if a president is incapacitated, his successor is pre-determined.

This is an end run on the powers assigned to the Executive Branch of our government.

The military should NEVER take control on it’s own. It must remain at the direction of the existing POTUS.


9 posted on 05/15/2013 8:30:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: Perseverando

Practice and LAW are two different things. They still would violate that act. Granted, the prosecution of that violation is left with the DOJ or the Executive, and with this current band of evil destroyers, Justice would not be served.

Yet, they do this at their peril. They violated the act at Waco, likely at Ruby Ridge too, but not ‘proven’. For this they have earned the lifelong enmity of a lot of people. A lot of people that value freedom, the protection of the Constitution, and the willingness to impart that injustice to their heirs and anyone else who will listen. They also incur the potential for re-action.


10 posted on 05/15/2013 8:32:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Jack Hammer
This is blurring the lines and the visuals.

At one time I believed the military would be our ally.

why the black uniforms??? ;) Don't they look friendly?? (sarc)

11 posted on 05/15/2013 8:41:18 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Gaffer
"...Constitution, and the willingness to impart that injustice to their heirs and anyone else who will listen...." I fear most of us will be "bystanders" and will just watch freedom erode away......

(but) I agree with your assessment.

I remember Ruby Ridge and Waco.

12 posted on 05/15/2013 8:46:32 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Jack Hammer

True dat, and what is even more worrisome to me than the weapons and the attack suits is the military mentality. When they were looking for the Boston bombers, they sometimes (not all) tossed any pretense of courtesy or even gun safety out the window. I saw pics and videos of families who were obviously not the bombers being run out of their homes with live weapons pointed at them. I saw one disturbing pic of a cop on top of an armored vehicle sighting in on a photographer with his finger on the trigger. Not to condemn law enforcement, but somtimes when they have the attack suits on, they get an attitude that “your rights are whatever the hell I tell you to do”.


13 posted on 05/15/2013 8:50:31 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Perseverando
“...This de facto nullification isn’t lost on the DoD.
...”

excellent point!
Thanks

14 posted on 05/15/2013 8:50:49 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

“Towns don’t need tanks.”

And LEOs need to remember that they too are civilians.


15 posted on 05/15/2013 8:51:33 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: kimtom

Your tax dollars at work. Each one of the full-auto ARS (machine guns) they hold have so much extra crap on them, likely paid at inflated prices, the cost approaches 3-5 thousand each (e.g., they have EOTech sights, that are 5-600 minimum).

One guy with some black tips and a Garand at standoff range would drop each one.


16 posted on 05/15/2013 8:51:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: DoughtyOne
It must remain at the direction of the existing POTUS.

Honerstly now, do you trust this POTS?

17 posted on 05/15/2013 8:53:12 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama abandoned the defenders in Benghazi - They died; he lied.)
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To: kimtom; LucyT

So Monday was the declaration of Martial Law all across the United States?


18 posted on 05/15/2013 8:55:02 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: kimtom
military has quietly granted itself the ability to police the streets without obtaining prior local or state consent,

Seems to be indirect conflict with the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878

19 posted on 05/15/2013 8:56:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: elcid1970
And LEOs need to remember that they too are civilians   and folks know where they live.

Shit happens.

20 posted on 05/15/2013 8:59:16 AM PDT by tomkat ( solve for x: islam = the enemy .. Baraq = islamite ... Baraq = x)
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To: kimtom

Uhmmmmmm .... K...

Not gonna happen as alluded to by the author. That would required an extraordinary command structure and mindset that doesn’t exist and would make whatever problems that left these commanders feeling enabled with a bigger set if problems.

Besides, in all instances nationwide the police and military are severely outnumbered and they couldn’t possibly field the resources necessary topprevail and the consequences for them would be to severe.

No, if it did happen it would be in very limited areas that probably would require their protection such as DC and military sites.


21 posted on 05/15/2013 9:06:14 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Gaffer

Absolutely. SWAT LEO and other GI JOE are gonna get exhausted tell quick carrying around theirlow rider gear.

They’ll start tossing that junk when the effects of movement while weighted down make em miserable.

They’ll do it for a day or two but, after that ... They’ll start selling em if they have to..

That crap adds 30% more weight and it’s on the front of the weapon .

It has it’s place but...


22 posted on 05/15/2013 9:13:12 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

I’ve spent some time with ‘operators’ who have had to trek into areas where they are at extremely high risk. They sometimes wore bernooses, rode camels/donkeys. They had to carry packs that weighed about 140lbs.

Not one of these Rambo’s I’ve seen immortalized in the minds of our liberal media as ‘protectors’ could even get out of the damned armored van that brings them to the scene with that load.


23 posted on 05/15/2013 9:19:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: DoughtyOne
This is unconstitutional.

How quaint!

24 posted on 05/15/2013 9:24:52 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: kimtom
The military is being rapidly transformed with the Christians to be or being forced out and replaced by homosexuals and females. Both groups are consciously already traducing very basic principles of Judaeo Christian civilization and would have a much easier time machine gun spraying an auditorium full of unpolitically correct citizens than the troops we all think of as our sons in uniform.

Hitler made enthusiastic use of male homosexuals to staff his Praetorian guard because they were much more willing to slaughter whomever the were told to kill. Women who sign on for front line duty have the same lack of qualms. The officer corps has been involved in ongoing purges of "unreliable" men, men who are suspect of being averse to shooting down American citizens.

25 posted on 05/15/2013 9:33:46 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Rapscallion

No, but we need to support the Constitutional guidelines, even if this guy is completely out of his depth.


26 posted on 05/15/2013 10:48:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: arthurus

Well, some folks think so. We don’t.


27 posted on 05/15/2013 10:49:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: arthurus
"..The officer corps has been involved in ongoing purges of "unreliable" men, men who are suspect of being averse to shooting down American citizens..."

I do not question the truth of it, but can you find articles supporting it??? :)

i.e. Our military ranks being subverted......add posts

Good point though

28 posted on 05/15/2013 1:50:58 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Every Democrat president purges the officer corps. Carter and Clinton both did it. Clinton was overt as hell about it and used the Navy Convention “Tailhook” to hang the operation. that one wound up with at least one probable murder and a couple of convenient suicides. T most visible result of the purges is the difficulty fighting wars for a time afterwards as in Iraq(after Clintjn). The first onslaught did wonderfully well but that was firepower and speed. Afterward we got bogged down and were losing ground until finally the fresh blood proved itself on the battlefield and rose to the top. About then came the surge and you know the rest. Without the surge the troops were already improving the situation because they finally had battle experienced competent officers. Competent officers get replaced by reliable bureaucrats whose military talents consist in sucking up to politicians and implementing stupid politically correct requirements.


29 posted on 05/15/2013 3:40:14 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: arthurus

excellent observation


30 posted on 05/16/2013 3:31:26 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: arthurus

” About then came the surge and you know the rest. Without the surge the troops were already improving the situation because they finally had battle experienced competent officers. Competent officers get replaced by reliable bureaucrats whose military talents consist in sucking up to politicians and implementing stupid politically correct requirements.”

This is a popular myth which needs to be dispelled. It does not credit the decision makers and servicemembers who defeated the insurgency.

Look, I was there at that time. Due to frequently having to travel across Iraq I took particular interest in Iraq strategic issues. I read the daily BUAs and SIGACTS and was always aware of the threatcon.

I want to make this clear about the “Surge”. In December, 2006 80+ attacks were occuring per day which was the long term norm. In mid-December, 2006, just after Gen Petraeus was selected to command in Iraq and prior to Surge troop arrivals several Iranian “diplomats” were aprehended and detained by (non-Surge) US forces. Several Iraqi PMs made a lot of protestations over the aprehensions, demanding release, etc.. The next day attacks against Coalition and Iraqi forces went to 11. By the end of the week attacks were below 10 and remained low throughout the Surge.

The Surge was prefaced by arrest and deportation of the insurgents’ Iranian pay masters. After that Coalition and Iraqi forces simply ejected the unpaid Jihadis. That is the Surge. I credit Gen Petraeus and Special Operations Command for the success of the Surge.


31 posted on 05/16/2013 4:25:20 AM PDT by Justa
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To: kimtom
This is not the President Obama we voted for

The article that you posted was linked in the first paragraph.

32 posted on 05/19/2013 12:16:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Perseverando

It would seem to me the effort would be too execute a coup de’tat


33 posted on 05/19/2013 2:53:20 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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