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L.A. Schools: We Won’t Suspend Kids For Mouthing Off Anymore
Takepart.com ^ | May 15, 2013

Posted on 05/15/2013 4:46:56 PM PDT by presidio9

In a groundbreaking resolution, the Los Angeles Unified District school board voted Tuesday to ban suspensions for “willful defiance,” making it the first district in the state to do so.

This decision will stop suspensions for a variety of misbehaviors—anything from mouthing off to teachers, eating food in the classroom, or violating the school dress code—which critics have maintained are too broad and arbitrarily enforced. Instead, starting next year, principals will install alternative disciplinary measures while students remain in school.

The ban in LAUSD, the second largest school district in the country, marks a major shift from a zero-tolerance policy for minor infractions.

“We know that taking kids out of school is not an effective solution for dealing with students who have behavioral issues,” said Tonna Onyendu, an organizer with the Liberty Hill Foundation, a nonprofit group that helped craft the proposal for LAUSD. “What’s worse,” he said, “is it leads to racial profiling in the classroom.”

Data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from schools around the nation shows that the zero-tolerance approach to school discipline has a discriminatory effect. African-American students are suspended from school more than three times as often as white students across all grade levels.

In LAUSD, African-American children make up nine percent of the student body, but they account for 26 percent of all suspensions, nearly half of which are for willful defiance offenses.

Seattle and New York City school districts faced civil rights investigations by the U.S. Department of Education for an alarming rise in suspension rates in recent years, particularly among African-American and Latino boys.

New York City saw

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: anarchy; duplicate; innercityschools; liberalagenda; lofan; losangeles; schooldistrict; utterinsanity

1 posted on 05/15/2013 4:46:56 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Thank you lawyers.


2 posted on 05/15/2013 4:48:34 PM PDT by Sparky21555 ((The buck stops over there.))
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To: presidio9
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3019971/posts
3 posted on 05/15/2013 4:49:01 PM PDT by South40
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To: presidio9

Seriously? What teacher in their right mind would continue to work there?


4 posted on 05/15/2013 4:50:19 PM PDT by louie2 (Simply a diversion)
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To: presidio9

IOW is would be racist to suspend kids for mouthing off because a disproportionate number of those suspended are black.

Eric Holder was making rumbling sounds about going Federal on this


5 posted on 05/15/2013 4:50:25 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: presidio9

A perfect example of why our culture is in the toilet.


6 posted on 05/15/2013 4:51:18 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: presidio9

Schools collect money based on how many students attend school. Same with those getting school lunches.

They need bodies in seats.


7 posted on 05/15/2013 4:51:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: presidio9

why do libtards assume that it’s racial profiling that causes blacks to be suspended three times more than white students? why not consider that blacks are at least three times as disruptive and causing problems far more often than whites? geez, idiots rule.


8 posted on 05/15/2013 4:52:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: louie2

The teachers should file hostile work environment complaints against the districts.


9 posted on 05/15/2013 4:52:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: presidio9

They were talking using alternative methods on the radio.

I heard this one years ago and it is from Disney.

MAMA, DON’T WHIP LITTLE BUFORD
From Country Bear Jamboree
(Kenneth C. Burns / Henry D. Haynes )

Mama don’t whip little Buford.
Mama don’t pound on his head.
Mama don’t whip little Buford.
I think you should shoot him instead.

(Henry)
Bang!

Yes, folks, we only have high class stuff on this show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYbHvAPoIkg


10 posted on 05/15/2013 4:58:32 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Normal isn't normal anymore.)
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To: presidio9

I am a firm believer in home-schooling or private schools. Public schools no longer allow the teaching of morality with the removal of religion as a guiding philosophy. As the children in the epic “Lord of The Flies” novel, when children have not been taught morality they will develop their own and it can be a very ugly thing. Cheating, violence, sex, disrespect for authority in schools all result from amoral upbringing. Parents should not rely on public schools to teach their children morality.


11 posted on 05/15/2013 5:00:38 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: louie2

It’s hard to understand kids mouthing off in Spanish anyway.. Teachers are only in it for the money and the lifetime pension. Just like cops, firefighters and most politicians.


12 posted on 05/15/2013 5:09:40 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Ben Mugged
Cheating, violence, sex, disrespect for authority in schools all result from amoral upbringing.

This is so obvious, but the "compassionate" crowd can't wait to get the least little reference to human decency out of the public schools for fear of hurting some deviant's self-esteem.

13 posted on 05/15/2013 5:24:47 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: presidio9

“What’s worse,” he said, “is it leads to racial profiling in the classroom.”...

Oh, for the love of Pete: STFU.


14 posted on 05/15/2013 5:33:11 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: presidio9
In LAUSD, African-American children make up nine percent of the student body, but they account for 26 percent of all suspensions, nearly half of which are for willful defiance offenses.

I teach in LAUSD, and I can tell you there is a reason for this. Those little boys have a bad case of "Baby Boy." Their mothers are their fiercest champions, and if their boy was rude to you, as one teacher was told, "Maybe he didn't like your tone."

Oddly enough, the girls are usually fine. In fact, often they're top the class. African-American women don't coddle their daughters. But the sons, the sons... oh, that's different. They talk a good game on the phone when you call them, but the kid's behavior doesn't change.

15 posted on 05/15/2013 5:35:00 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Oh, for the love of Pete: STFU.

Actually, that quote was what led me to post this thread in the first place. The absurdity of the idea that some races, for what ever reason, don't deal well with authority -so we need to protect that behavior in the name of cultural diversity (even if it means doing these kids a disservice later in life) could only come from a liberal mind. I generally dismiss the idea that anything is more important than the three R's, but school is also where kids learn some of the social skills they will need to become productive members of society when they grow up. A kid who never learns to respect authority is going to have a hell of a time finding and keeping a job. Any job.

16 posted on 05/15/2013 5:39:02 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

“What’s worse,” he said, “is it leads to racial profiling in the classroom.”...

Oh, for the love of Pete: STFU.”

Oh come on, if De-Shanteshain wants to talk back to the oppressive racist teacher, as a 26 year old freshman he has that right !


17 posted on 05/15/2013 5:46:29 PM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: A_perfect_lady

My wife has similar stories.

Though the ones in sports behave... during the season.


18 posted on 05/15/2013 5:47:02 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: presidio9
Aren't these the same creeps who demand the "bullying" be stopped in our schools? What a bunch of low I.Q. morons. Geesh! Let me outta here!!!

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19 posted on 05/15/2013 5:55:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: presidio9

With LA’s reputation for public school excellence, what district in the country wouldn’t want to adopt this policy as well?


20 posted on 05/15/2013 6:10:40 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Ben Mugged

The only purpose of education in Western Civilization—since Socrates was to teach Virtue.

All the Founders stated the same thing. (Virtue is excellence, Wisdom —Christian Ethics —the Bible and Classics were in the McGuffey Readers to instill Wisdom. Wisdom is defined by Socrates as being able to discern between Good and Evil).

That ended with John Dewey-—the father of modern education who was a Fabian Socialist. His curricula blurs good and evil (throws out Classics and Bible) and literally destroys Knowledge—the understanding of history. It is intentional—the dumbing down of America—is written about since the 40’s.

He wanted to fundamentally change the worldview of our children from a Christian ethic to an atheist/pagan/occult one where totalitarianism could exist. He succeeded to a large extent. We need the government out of education.....JS Mill stated government schools would only make slaves (idiots) for the State.


21 posted on 05/15/2013 6:12:19 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: presidio9

just making policy that fits current facts


22 posted on 05/15/2013 6:47:17 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: a fool in paradise

You nailed it — bodies in the seat = money in the administrators’ pockets.


23 posted on 05/15/2013 7:40:34 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: louie2
Seriously? What teacher in their right mind would continue to work there?

None. Now, the ones *not* in their right mind? Either they or the students will need to watch out because something's gotta give.

24 posted on 05/15/2013 7:50:44 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: presidio9
mouthing
25 posted on 05/15/2013 8:02:09 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: presidio9

“We know that taking kids out of school is not an effective solution for dealing with students who have behavioral issues,”

What a bunch of morons. Suspension and expulsion are to protect the students who aren’t discipline problems from the ones that are, and leave the teachers to teach without disruption. Leaving disruptive students in the school should not even be an option.


26 posted on 05/15/2013 8:09:07 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: louie2

“Seriously? What teacher in their right mind would continue to work there?”

You’ll be surprised. I sit on a “group” which consults the LA Unified Idiots, I mean District, and the a large group of the teachers are either quitters or couldn’t care less. The after school programs involves Facebook and TMZ, I kid you not.


27 posted on 05/15/2013 9:30:20 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Aren't these the same creeps who demand the "bullying" be stopped in our schools?

BULLYING as defined by the Left meaning picking on/teasing queers. Fat kids, nerds, brains, and conservatives are still ripe for harassment in schools.

And when kids "mouth off" to their teachers, they are "questioning authority" which is a higher calling of liberalism.

28 posted on 05/16/2013 5:23:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: presidio9

Another example of why multiculturalism and diversity do not work.


29 posted on 05/16/2013 9:19:14 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: a fool in paradise
Fat kids, nerds, brains, and conservatives are still ripe for harassment in schools.

Also Christians and anybody who expresses a conservative political viewpoint.

30 posted on 05/17/2013 12:52:34 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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