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D.C. Considers Mandatory $250K Insurance Policy for Gun Buyers
WUSA-TV / The Associated Press ^ | May 16, 2013

Posted on 05/16/2013 7:06:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The D.C. Council is considering requiring people to purchase liability insurance before they can get a license to own a gun.

The bill would mandate that prospective gun owners maintain at least a $250,000 policy. The policy would cover damages from negligent acts or intentional acts that aren’t undertaken in self-defense.

A handful of states are considering similar measures, but none has passed such a law....

(Excerpt) Read more at washington.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; democrats; districtofcolumbia; guncontrol; insurance; secondamendment
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1 posted on 05/16/2013 7:06:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Poll tax. Lefties love to charge people for their rights.


2 posted on 05/16/2013 7:08:06 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “D.C. Council” sounds as though they all may be heavily into recreational drugs.


3 posted on 05/16/2013 7:08:40 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is blatantly unconstitutional.


4 posted on 05/16/2013 7:08:41 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Are criminals required to have gun insurance?

5 posted on 05/16/2013 7:10:52 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ALL people have a right to bear arms, not just rich people.


6 posted on 05/16/2013 7:11:24 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; NFHale; Impy
The legal precident was set for this long ago with auto-insurance, more recently Obama-care,
But just payback is inventing similar measures for those running places that perform, or want abortions, in red states. Or same sex marriage if it becomes a Federal right.

Abortions and gays to libs is like gun rights to us.

7 posted on 05/16/2013 7:11:43 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

has the NRA ever been harassed by the IRS? Has pro 2nd Amendment organizations been harassed and wire tapped? There is soooo much more that has to be accounted for...


8 posted on 05/16/2013 7:11:57 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Perdogg

So is Obamacare, but that didn’t stop the SCOTUS from allowing it.

Insurance, in general, is NOT mandatory. Banks won’t give you a mortgage without homeowner’s insurance, but if you own your home, you don’t have to have it.

Most states won’t give you a DL or registration without auto insurance, but that doesn’t stop a 12 year old from getting behind the wheel and driving.

Not everyone has health insurance, but that doesn’t mean you can’t go to the ER if you have a heart attack. You’ll just have to pay the hospital for services rendered, as is customary with any service provider.

Insurance is a freaking racket.


9 posted on 05/16/2013 7:12:05 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nice try, libs. Too bad for you that the current mood brought on by the thuggish/dictatorial behavior of ‘The Won’ is going to put a chill on rat pipe-dreams for the foreseeable future.
10 posted on 05/16/2013 7:14:38 AM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So I’m guessing that maybe 4 or 5 folks in DC will fall under this scheme. (Emily Miller, this means you.) Except of course the baddies. Probably the same clowns that drive with no auto insurance too.


11 posted on 05/16/2013 7:14:56 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How much liability insurance does DC require that its abortionists purchase?

Just askin’


12 posted on 05/16/2013 7:15:25 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You’re right, it is equivalent to a poll tax. But that has been ruled unconstitutional. I wonder if the SC will have the balls and ovaries to rule correctly when this comes up in a case.


13 posted on 05/16/2013 7:15:26 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: rarestia

If they can´t outlaw guns and ammo..they will try to make it very expensive....and they will...


14 posted on 05/16/2013 7:15:37 AM PDT by Youngman542012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe those FATHEADS in DC need to carry $250,000 of LIBEL insurance for every time they exercise their 1st amendment rights when they open their traps to libel someone.


15 posted on 05/16/2013 7:15:40 AM PDT by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: Perdogg

Roberts made it possible by his ruling on Ozerocare.


16 posted on 05/16/2013 7:17:32 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's usually covered by homeowner's insurance or renter's insurance. The NRA sells policies which seem overpriced for what they are.

But if I were an insurance company, I'd still red-line the entire District of Columbia, which is home to about 80,000 lawyers. (Seriously. The District of Columbia Bar claims 91,685 members.)

17 posted on 05/16/2013 7:18:57 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: gemoftheocean

All government employees should have to carry $250K malfeasance insurance, with the premiums coming out of their paycheck.
And those premiums will be based on risk - especially if the agent has previous complaints.


18 posted on 05/16/2013 7:19:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If this is found to be Constitutional, every Red State should respond by requiring a $10,000,000 insurance requirement for:
- Each woman getting an abortion
- Each reporter, in case they libel or slander someone
- Each bodyguard that enters the state
- Smart cars, due to danger to occupants
- Coexist bumber stickers, in case they incite road rage
- Unions, in case they engage in thuggery


19 posted on 05/16/2013 7:23:01 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Perdogg
1. We don't have a Constitution. The sooner we stop pretending we do, the sooner we can have one again.

2. If we were to assume that we did currently have a Constitution, it has already been determined that it IS constitutional to force someone to purchase insurance to enjoy a God given right (life=>bear arms).

20 posted on 05/16/2013 7:23:44 AM PDT by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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To: SampleMan

Bodyguard and security companies already carry millions of dollars of liability insurance.


21 posted on 05/16/2013 7:24:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A federal law should be passed that whatever ID, background, insurance, whatever is required of gun owners by a state, the same should be required to get a voters registration card.

Both are Constitutional Rights.


22 posted on 05/16/2013 7:24:48 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m really interested in seeing the no doubt detailed explanation of how they plan to enforce this with thugs, gang members, drug dealers, etc.

I expect the gun to person ratio is much higher in that part of the population than any other.

Any policy that does not address this is just a joke.


23 posted on 05/16/2013 7:25:14 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: rarestia
“Not everyone has health insurance, but that doesn’t mean you can’t go to the ER if you have a heart attack. You’ll just have to pay the hospital for services rendered, as is customary with any service provider.”

Some won't pay the hospital. My husband had to have a serious operation and the day before was put in a room with another patient. The other patient was dirty. A nurse came in with a form for the man to sign so some money would go to the hospital - it was likely a Medicaid form. The man said he wasn't signing anything and they had to treat him.

I followed the nurse out and ask her to move my husband to another room as the man was filthy and they would use the same bathroom. They moved my husband out of that room right away.

What was the hospital going to do about this man? They can't turn away anyone can they? He wasn't signing anything so did the hospital have to eat the expense?

24 posted on 05/16/2013 7:25:53 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’ll be sure to purchase some.

Right after dim-bulb-crats are required to purchase intelligence insurance.


25 posted on 05/16/2013 7:28:18 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Ingtar

What insurance company is going to sign a policy for INTENTIONAL ACTS NOT UNDERTAKEN IN DEFENSE?

(Aka MURDER)

Negligent acts, yes, but those are covered under regular insurance already.


26 posted on 05/16/2013 7:29:40 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stamp Act


27 posted on 05/16/2013 7:30:08 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: sickoflibs

Auto’s are not a right and even the idiots at the supreme court would not allow a special tax on guns like they did with O-care.


28 posted on 05/16/2013 7:31:01 AM PDT by edcoil (If you can't change the rules, then ignore them.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

That’s the whole point. No company will issue such policies, so they get their gun ban on noncriminals.


29 posted on 05/16/2013 7:31:23 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think this is covered under your home owners liability insurance. NRA covers some of it if you are a member. Probably wouldn’t cost much unless the government gets involved in it.


30 posted on 05/16/2013 7:34:39 AM PDT by macglencoe (You see what the left hand is doing, but you should be watching the right hand.)
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To: Da Coyote
“I’ll be sure to purchase some. Right after dim-bulb-crats are required to purchase intelligence insurance.”

First, they have to know you have a gun. States that make you register before or when you buy a gun, would know you had one or more.

In Texas, no one knows what you have. The form you fill out when you buy a gun, doesn't list what the gun is or how many you bought and that form isn't reported to the state. And firearms from long ago before the form was required, wouldn't be known either.

I can't see Texas doing this ‘cause our state government hates anything that impinges our right to weapons.

31 posted on 05/16/2013 7:37:15 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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Proposed Bill Would Force Gun Owners in NY to Buy At Least $1 MILLION in Liability Insurance or Forfeit ‘Privilege’ to Own a Firearm
32 posted on 05/16/2013 7:38:03 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: edcoil
RE :”Auto’s are not a right and even the idiots at the supreme court would not allow a special tax on guns like they did with O-care.”

You are very optimistic. The SCOTUS including Scalia have already ruled that the 2nd Amendment is not a completely nonrestrictive right.

33 posted on 05/16/2013 7:38:28 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Home rule should be rescinded for DC. They are doing a terrible job and consistently violating the people’s rights. Or, alternatively, the Congress should pass a law which abrogates the right of the DC City Council to legislate in the area of guns. As many states have done to reign in their big city libtard politicians and citizens.


34 posted on 05/16/2013 7:46:37 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: upchuck

“I’m really interested in seeing the no doubt detailed explanation of how they plan to enforce this with thugs, gang members, drug dealers, etc.”

There’s a soft spot in obama’s heart for thugs, so just a guess, but it’ll more than likely fall under a “no fault” insurance clause of some sort.

That way, all forms of thuggery will be covered by law-abiding citizens.


35 posted on 05/16/2013 7:47:08 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: Ingtar
I agree. He was blackmailed. His children are Irish and it’s against the law to adopt children out of Ireland. I think they flew the mother to another country to give birth.
36 posted on 05/16/2013 7:47:20 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: Youngman542012

they did.


37 posted on 05/16/2013 7:51:20 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “DC Council” is a creature of Congress, which can alter or abolish it at will, as well as pre-empt any “legislation” which they happen to pass.

I have been advocating for years for Congress to pass CCW reciprocity for DC only (Congress has no right to do this for States).


38 posted on 05/16/2013 7:52:32 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Marcella

We had to eat the expense.


39 posted on 05/16/2013 7:53:32 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: BitWielder1

ya, good question. Are the youth gangs who terrorize the streets of DC going to buy their insurance policies?


40 posted on 05/16/2013 7:56:56 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Gaffer
You’re right, it is equivalent to a poll tax. But that has been ruled unconstitutional

Actually, it was NOT ruled unconstitutional, the Constitution was amended to ban it, and the ban only covers Presidential, Senatorial, and House elections.

Furthermore, Congress has the power to legislate "in all cases whatsoever" over DC, so, except for a poll tax for Presidential elections, they could charge whatever they wanted.

41 posted on 05/16/2013 7:59:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Next up, $500,000 insurance for all birth parents...


42 posted on 05/16/2013 7:59:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Jim Noble

Okay. Under what Amendment?


43 posted on 05/16/2013 8:01:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guess who will be the first to inform the Perps or their families lawyers, that the person defending themselves has big bucks to sue for?


44 posted on 05/16/2013 8:02:01 AM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How much is book insurance?

Rules for Radicals??


45 posted on 05/16/2013 8:17:15 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sure, when criminals start marching to the police station to present their insurance certificates.


46 posted on 05/16/2013 8:24:04 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Home rule should be rescinded for DC. They are doing a terrible job and consistently violating the people’s rights. Or, alternatively, the Congress should pass a law which abrogates the right of the DC City Council to legislate in the area of guns. As many states have done to reign in their big city libtard politicians and citizens.


47 posted on 05/16/2013 8:29:56 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Gaffer
Okay. Under what Amendment?

XXIV, ratified 1964.

48 posted on 05/16/2013 8:41:34 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Imagine if they tried to pass the same rule for abortion clinic customers.


49 posted on 05/16/2013 8:45:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Sarah is right.)
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To: Jim Noble

Thanks.


50 posted on 05/16/2013 9:11:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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