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Retired 4 star Admiral Blows Whistle on Benghazi new Evidence (1/17/2013)
Polisite ^ | 1/17/2013 | Doc Vega

Posted on 05/16/2013 12:45:55 PM PDT by stockpirate

"This apparent abduction by terrorists of our ambassador and then negotiated trade for the Blind Sheikh would have been the “October Surprise” that would have elevated President Obama’s flagging popularity and boosted his approval ratings for a re-election. A dramatic prisoner exchange that saved our ambassador’s life However, something went horribly wrong. A cunning and illegal bit of treachery by the Obama White House turned into something entirely different. Obama’s October surprise turned into a carnage orchestrated by the White House itself as the President, Leon Panetta, and CIA Director, David Petraeus watched via a UAV real-time feed as a 7 hour attack on the Benghazi Embassy raged. Reportedly, stand down orders were given several times to different units within striking distance."

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1 posted on 05/16/2013 12:45:55 PM PDT by stockpirate
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To: stockpirate

The other shoe?!


2 posted on 05/16/2013 12:47:47 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: stockpirate

I hear a shoe dropping.


3 posted on 05/16/2013 12:47:47 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: stockpirate

I think I saw this on Free Republic, about 9/20.


4 posted on 05/16/2013 12:47:57 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: stockpirate

Just as FR surmised at the time


5 posted on 05/16/2013 12:48:35 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Irenic

Okay, this is scary. Post 1 and 2 at same time. “12:47:47 PM”


6 posted on 05/16/2013 12:48:38 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: stockpirate

I don’t understand why the Won would have derailed his own operation. What’s the point?


7 posted on 05/16/2013 12:48:40 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Oooops, I mean Post 2 and Post 3.


8 posted on 05/16/2013 12:49:07 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: stockpirate

Admiral Lyons speaks via a youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A5iMa8pK2Y


9 posted on 05/16/2013 12:49:42 PM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: stockpirate

Hmm


10 posted on 05/16/2013 12:50:09 PM PDT by Durbin
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To: stockpirate
This scenerio has always been I thought happened.

What "went wrong" was those 2 brave SEALs who were there.

11 posted on 05/16/2013 12:50:18 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: stockpirate

How reliable is this site? How much do we know about this general? If this is the “other shoe”, Obama’s administration is OVER.


12 posted on 05/16/2013 12:50:46 PM PDT by Viennacon (I)
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To: Oberon

Think ‘Bay of Pigs’.............


13 posted on 05/16/2013 12:50:52 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: stockpirate

This was discussed on FR shortly after.


14 posted on 05/16/2013 12:51:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do uwhen I have a fire.)
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To: stockpirate
With what should have been only a staged kidnapping of Ambassador J. Christian Stevens, instead, Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty refused a stand down order and began doing their job of protecting the ambassador using force.

Holy cow... Is this for real? Who is this retired 4-star admiral testifying to?
15 posted on 05/16/2013 12:52:09 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: stockpirate
Not new, but worthy of consideration. This would explain why the bad guys were only interested in retrieving Stevens' body, and not the others.

It's entirely possible this was a staged hostage taking of Stevens in exchange for the Blind Sheik, with security draw down and refusals to soften the target.. GONE BAD.

16 posted on 05/16/2013 12:52:25 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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17 posted on 05/16/2013 12:52:53 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Oberon
I don’t understand why the Won would have derailed his own operation. What’s the point?

From the article:

With what should have been only a staged kidnapping of Ambassador J. Christian Stevens, instead, Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty refused a stand down order and began doing their job of protecting the ambassador using force.
18 posted on 05/16/2013 12:53:05 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: stockpirate

This is the ONLY scenario that makes any sense to me.


19 posted on 05/16/2013 12:53:05 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: stockpirate

Why is the date 1/17/13? Is this current or old news?


20 posted on 05/16/2013 12:53:07 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: stockpirate

nice theory, need some evidence though.....

I’m sure they have covered their tracks well.


21 posted on 05/16/2013 12:53:08 PM PDT by jt2
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To: Irenic

uncovered by Lyons and Glenn Beck? ? ? ? I don’t know about this....


22 posted on 05/16/2013 12:53:10 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: driftdiver

Oh, please let this be the smoking gun that brings this socialist tyrant down. I promise to drink my milk and take all of my vitamins...please...please.


23 posted on 05/16/2013 12:53:20 PM PDT by Signalman
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what evidence does he have and was he a part of it or is it just hearsay?


24 posted on 05/16/2013 12:53:41 PM PDT by glm
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To: stockpirate

That’s the reason Obama went to bed that evening, he was expecting the terrorists to have taken Stevens as a live hostage according to the plan. However the events unfolded differently.


25 posted on 05/16/2013 12:54:13 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Slump Tester
Good point. Doherty and Woods fought back.. Guess they weren't supposed to, hence the stand down orders. They unknowingly botched the hostage-taking? This is starting to make sense.. Yikes.

Is this why 0bama is sweating bullets over Benghazi?

26 posted on 05/16/2013 12:54:35 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Uh..that’s posts # 2 & 3.

...and not to worry...

#3 is just a “ghost” of #2.


27 posted on 05/16/2013 12:54:38 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: stockpirate

Did Adm. James Lyons find this out through other sources or how?


28 posted on 05/16/2013 12:54:51 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: glm

Ditto to that!


29 posted on 05/16/2013 12:54:52 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: stockpirate

In the words of
Nancy Grace..

BOMBSHELL TONIGHT!
(I can still say bomb on the internet, I hope)


30 posted on 05/16/2013 12:55:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: stockpirate
Here is a video of Rep. Chaffetz saying that Gen. Ham, commander of AFRICOM at that time, told him that assets were near enough to help and ready to go.

AFRICOM leader General Carter Ham was never given the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi. Youtube 1:43

Adm. James Lyons (Ret.) on Growing Benghazi Scandal

ADMIRAL LYONS: …All those comforting words that “We don’t want to put our forces at risk.” We had people at risk—they were crying for help! In a situation, you go with the resources you have available—and, in this particular case, we did have that 130-man Marine force recon team sitting there at Sigonella. Even if I only got 50 of them over there, that would have been significant in turning the situation around. We may not have been able to save the ambassador, but we certainly could have saved those other two SEALs that were over on the annex.

ADMIRAL LYONS: In perpetuating this lie, we also had administration officials lying to Congressional committees. That’s a felony. So, “What difference does it make?” It makes all the difference in the world. You cannot flaunt the truth here, just walk away from it and, basically, tell the American public to stuff it. That’s not acceptable.

The point on the organizing the two Marine anti-terrorist teams in Rota, that was good to go ahead and stand ’em up. What I find incomprehensible: The first team, it took them 23 hours to go a few hundred miles from Rota to Tripoli. I could go around the world in 23 hours, so that makes absolutely no sense to me.

There is no doubt whatsoever that the assets were in motion preparing to receive an order to go.

How the military preps.

How an embassy rescue works.

Cross Border Authority.

31 posted on 05/16/2013 12:55:33 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

You have been listening hard and long for that other shoe, too, eh?

After reading the article, I don’t think this is the shoe.


32 posted on 05/16/2013 12:56:10 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Izzy Dunne

You are right, I read it here, also.


33 posted on 05/16/2013 12:56:18 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: stockpirate

There are two links at this site, to a Wash Times article by Lyons and a video. The video was posted June 22, 2012, so it cannot have any bearing on Benghazi. And the Wash Times article doesn’t mention kidnapping at all. One comment in the Wash Times article mentions kidnapping. Pretty misleading blog post.


34 posted on 05/16/2013 12:56:46 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: stockpirate

.... This originally was a blog post dated on 1/17/2013 and the burden will have to be on the proof. Is retired 4 Star Admiral James Lyons slated to testify to this as fact .... or is it conjecture on his behalf? Many of us surmised this same theory but of course we had no proof to back it up. Hopefully Lyons will testify and has substantial proof to bring this huge piece of the Benghazi puzzle to light.


35 posted on 05/16/2013 12:56:48 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Oberon

He didn’t derail it, the Seals did.


36 posted on 05/16/2013 12:57:08 PM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: R_Kangel

Check out the links. They mention nothing of the sort. This article is grossly misleading.


37 posted on 05/16/2013 12:57:59 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: stockpirate

BFLR


38 posted on 05/16/2013 12:58:44 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Proud contributer to the Free Republic Q-2 Freepathon.)
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To: Irenic

I remember hearing Glenn Beck state this theory many months ago. So, yeah, he did say it.


39 posted on 05/16/2013 12:58:50 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: stockpirate

It seems this story has been around since January... What gives?


40 posted on 05/16/2013 12:59:02 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater

Nothing in the links provided supports the claim made.


41 posted on 05/16/2013 12:59:06 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: stockpirate

Not to brag, but: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2950586/posts?page=41#41

And I was only synopsizing what I had read here from others on Freerepublic on this issue.


42 posted on 05/16/2013 12:59:17 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: dirtboy

Knowledgeable commentary on the status of our forces would have no bearing on Benghazi? What planet are you from?


43 posted on 05/16/2013 12:59:25 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: stockpirate

When it comes out of Katherine Herridge’s mouth, I will believe it.


44 posted on 05/16/2013 12:59:30 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: stockpirate

” The Republicans have missed opportunities to discredit the President, to impeach Obama in the wake of waging war against Libya without Congressional approval, and allowed executive privilege to quash subpoenaed demands for evidence on Fast and Furious never released by AG Eric Holder. John Boehner, Speaker of the House, has refused to exercise initiative whenever the GOP could have used much-needed momentum to stem the tide against the incessant assaults against state’s rights, constitutional rights, and the traditional institutions of America.”

Boehner . Useless.


45 posted on 05/16/2013 12:59:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stockpirate

Will the GOP have the stones to impeach? If not they will be complicit


46 posted on 05/16/2013 1:00:23 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: TigersEye
Knowledgeable commentary on the status of our forces would have no bearing on Benghazi? What planet are you from?

Click on the links provided at the source - used to present the claim that Lyons is pushing this kidnapping theory. Neither the article or the video mentions anything of the sort.

47 posted on 05/16/2013 1:00:28 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
The video was posted June 22, 2012, so it cannot have any bearing on Benghazi.

I was replying only to that stupid comment.

48 posted on 05/16/2013 1:01:36 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: stockpirate

Trading the guy who tried to blow up the World Trade Center for an unknown ambassador would cinch the election for Barry?

Somebody’s smokin’ something.


49 posted on 05/16/2013 1:02:12 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

"..someone has longer fingernails"

50 posted on 05/16/2013 1:02:22 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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