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Pentagon recognizes transgender service members for first time in 'symbolic' move for LGBT community
The London Daily Mail ^ | May 16, 2013 | Helen Pow

Posted on 05/16/2013 8:17:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Pentagon for the first time has officially recognized transgender service members in a significant step being hailed by the LGBT community.

The acknowledgement came in the form of a letter to veteran and transgender activist Autumn Sandeen confirming that the Navy had updated its records to show she is a woman.

While still a long way from open transgender service in the military, OutServe-SLDN, an organization for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender service members and their families labeled the move 'symbolic.'

The letter from the Navy official, dated May 2, read: 'Per your request the Defense Enrollment Eligibility Reporting System (DEERS) has been updated to show your gender as female effective April 12, 2013.'

Sandeen's military identification card now reflects the change.

'The fact that a process exists [to change the gender listed] indicates that there are people in the Department of Defense who are aware of the needs of transgender retirees and who are working to see those needs met,' OutServe-SLDN executive director Allyson Robinson told BuzzFeed.

'And, in that sense, the significance of this symbolic act for our broader work and for our goal of open service becomes I think a little bit more apparent.'

Gay, lesbian and bisexual service members have been able to serve openly in the military since September 2011, however if transgender people try to do the same they continue to be discharged, according to Buzzfeed....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: autumnsandeen; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; military; navy; obama; transgender
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I am sick to my stomach. I'm almost glad my father (USMC 1943-65) never saw this.
1 posted on 05/16/2013 8:17:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: Maelstrom; manc

Ping.


2 posted on 05/16/2013 8:19:27 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: GeronL

Ping.


3 posted on 05/16/2013 8:20:01 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Worse yet, I can’t see a future Republican administration daring to reverse this ridiculous decision.

Perhaps if I was in the military, then decided I was a dog, they would change the official record to show that indeed, Fido was manning surface to air missiles.


4 posted on 05/16/2013 8:23:52 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How long until dog trainers start marrying their dogs?


5 posted on 05/16/2013 8:25:32 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sick to my stomach too, vet.

I never served in the military, sadly I am just not cut out for it. However, I have the utmost respect and love for the men and women who do and have done so.

I know that these are better people than me, and if not for their efforts and sacrifices, I could not live the life that I have lived and enjoyed.

To see this government of ours, which I have no respect for whatsoever, staining our armed forces with their social experiment crapola makes me want to cry.

God bless the United States armed forces.


6 posted on 05/16/2013 8:25:54 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Viennacon

They never reverse anything: The Federal Reserve, Social Security, minimum wage, Medicare, welfare, food stamps, EPA, OSHA, and the list goes on and on.


7 posted on 05/16/2013 8:27:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Farr ahead of his time:


8 posted on 05/16/2013 8:27:54 PM PDT by Errant
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To: chris37

The military isn’t for everybody. I was an intelligence analyst, not a Green Beret, SEAL or infantryman. I don’t know if I’d been able to do those things.


9 posted on 05/16/2013 8:29:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: Cvengr
How long until dog trainers start marrying their dogs?

Just as soon as they approve spousal benefits for K9's.........about a month.

10 posted on 05/16/2013 8:31:57 PM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hate to say it, but this country is done. What kind of military is this?


11 posted on 05/16/2013 8:32:25 PM PDT by ilgipper (The lesson for the GOP is simple - don't let the opposition define you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yup- recognize htem right on the heels of the latest scandal showing how homoseuxauls raping non homosexuals has risen i nthe military to near epidemic proportions- Well doen pentagon-


12 posted on 05/16/2013 8:34:07 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Utterly nuts.

You can’t change your sex.

It’s a mental disorder and needs to be treated as such, not coddled. Can we make it another three years with this guy?

Think of the pardons he’ll make in his last week in office.


13 posted on 05/16/2013 8:34:24 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; NorthernCrunchyCon; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Finatic; fellowpatriot; MarineMom613; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

14 posted on 05/16/2013 8:36:57 PM PDT by narses
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To: Gucho; archy; VaBthang4; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; StarCMC; Jim Robinson; CholeraJoe; ...

Ping!


15 posted on 05/16/2013 8:37:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; Liz; ...

My dad being in WWII and losing his brother in it was upset that Carter pardoned those who avoided the draft in Vietnam (which was very popular at the time) , he (Dad) is lucky to not have lived to see this day.


16 posted on 05/16/2013 8:38:54 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They should be concerned about readiness, not Political Correctness.

Our military is dying the death of a thousand cuts.

17 posted on 05/16/2013 8:39:47 PM PDT by Gritty (The Constitution's purpose is to insulate personal freedom from a lust for power-Judge A. Napolitano)
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To: Gritty
"Our military is dying the death of a thousand cuts."

All according to plan...

18 posted on 05/16/2013 8:43:36 PM PDT by free-in-nyc (Freeping from the heart of the occupation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, look at the bright side.

This gives a whole new meaning to the phrase

“Good night, Chesty Puller, wherever you are!”


19 posted on 05/16/2013 8:47:49 PM PDT by rdcbn
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We need a DNA test on aisle two.

20 posted on 05/16/2013 8:48:45 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ain’t thith THPETHIAL???


21 posted on 05/16/2013 8:49:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sick,, there is an actual listed mental illness where people want to aputate body parts unnecessarily. If a homo or lesbian worked where i did, i could work with them as a coworker, even if i wanted nothing to do with them socially.

A transexual is a whole other thing. They are crossing the line into utterly insane.


22 posted on 05/16/2013 8:55:46 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Gaaah! Not in my Grandfather’s Navy!


23 posted on 05/16/2013 8:56:32 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
What Sandeen looked like shortly after he enlisted:


24 posted on 05/16/2013 8:57:51 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had an uncle who served in Viet Nam. He was a First Sgt. in the Army.

I cannot imagine this crap going on in his day.


25 posted on 05/16/2013 9:00:34 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

That’s the same person?!?!?


26 posted on 05/16/2013 9:02:41 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

So.....feminine and...dainty.


27 posted on 05/16/2013 9:07:57 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Think about it folks.

Is the army Obama plans to use against us going to be filled with homosexuals?

The men won’t be a problem, but we may have a bit of difficulty with the bull-dykes.....


28 posted on 05/16/2013 9:09:00 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: 1010RD

axiom of life. Beware of symbolism over substance. IMHO.


29 posted on 05/16/2013 9:11:08 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: Nachum

Wow...


30 posted on 05/16/2013 9:15:22 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Yes it is.


31 posted on 05/16/2013 9:15:28 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think it’s time we face reality.
This change doesn’t really matter.
Combat capability doesn’t really matter.
Readiness doesn’t really matter.

We haven’t fought a war to actually win it since Korea. We’re more than half a century into the habit of not finishing, and that means losing, wars.

As a nation, I doubt we even have it in us, any more, to win a war.


32 posted on 05/16/2013 9:20:39 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Male rape survivors tackle military culture

Amid the discussion sparked by the military’s sexual abuse crisis, male rape survivors are reminding officials that men are targeted more often than women.
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IOW this guy is claiming theres more homosexual rape than there is man against woman rape...

This guy was the star of the 1st summit on military rape last year...

Heres the article By Bill Briggs, NBC News contributor

Amid the legislation and indignation sparked by the military’s sexual abuse crisis, male rape survivors are stepping forward to remind officials that men are targeted more often than women inside a tough-guy culture that, they say, routinely deems male victims as “liars and trouble makers.”

The Pentagon estimates that last year 13,900 of the 1.2 million men on active duty endured sexual assault while 12,100 of the 203,000 women in uniform experienced the same crime — or 38 men per day versus 33 women per day. Yet the Defense Department also acknowledges “male survivors report at much lower rates than female survivors.”

“As a culture, we’ve somewhat moved past the idea that a female wanted this trauma to occur, but we haven’t moved past that for male survivors,” said Brian Lewis, a rape survivor who served in the Navy. “In a lot of areas of the military, men are still viewed as having wanted it or of being homosexual. That’s not correct at all. It’s a crime of power and control.

“But also, you’re instantly viewed as a liar and a troublemaker (when a man reports a sex crime), and there’s the notion that you have abandoned your shipmates, that you took a crap all over your shipmates, that you misconstrued their horseplay,” he added.

Lewis, who was raped by a male superior officer aboard a Navy ship in 2000, spoke Thursday at a press conference introducing a bill that seeks to strip serious sex assaults from the military’s chain of command. At that event, he said: “Too often male survivors are ignored and marginalized.”

“The biggest reasons men don’t come forward (with sex assault reports) are the fear of retaliation (from fellow troops), the fear of being viewed in a weaker light, and the fact there are very few, if any, services for male survivors,” Lewis told NBC News.

Men in the spotlight
All sexual assault response coordinators within the military are instructed to provide “gender-responsive, culturally competent and recovery-oriented” resources, said Cynthia O. Smith, a Pentagon spokeswoman.

“Based on that guidance, each of the services customizes its training and implementation specific to their service,” Smith said. DOD offers a 24/7 “safe helpline” providing anonymous victim support, and its staffers “have been trained to assist male victims.”

Still, the Defense Department acknowledges it must do more to help male victims.

“A focus of our prevention efforts over the next several months is specifically geared towards male survivors and will include (learning) why male survivors report at much lower rates than female survivors, and determining the unique support and assistance male survivors need,” Smith said.

The Pentagon “has reached out to organizations supporting male survivors for assistance and information to help inform our way ahead,” she added.

“I applaud that stand on behalf of male survivors,” Lewis said. “However, I would be interested in hearing what organizations they are partnering with considering there are none especially geared for male survivors of military sexual trauma.”

‘Critical’ part of process
At Protect Our Defenders, a leading advocacy group for male and female service members who’ve survived sexual assaults, president Nancy Parrish said she would welcome the chance to offer guidance to the Pentagon as it develops better programs to support male sex assault victims.

“As of yet, we have not been asked to participate in such an endeavor,” Parrish said. “For the success of the military efforts to end the ongoing epidemic of male and female military sexual assaults, it is critical that survivors are part of the process.”

An annual DOD report on sexual abuse, released May 7, described separate attacks on two male soldiers who were shoved down by fellow troops then sodomized with a plastic bottle or broom handle.

Next month, a documentary called “Justice Denied” — which explores sexual assaults against men in the military — premiers at the Albuquerque Film Festival.

Assaults on men have been “carefully hidden from the public and covered up,” not only by the victims themselves but also by superiors within the chain of command, contends the film’s producer and co-director Geri Lynn Weinstein-Matthews. “It’s time for men to have their voices heard. It’s time for them to stand up against these vicious attacks and against the deception of some of their commanding officers.”

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/16/18301723-male-rape-survivors-tackle-military-assault-in-tough-guy-culture?lite


33 posted on 05/16/2013 9:21:24 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Errant

Well at least Klinger was entertaining.


34 posted on 05/16/2013 9:21:58 PM PDT by Jean2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This accommodation make locker inspections more complicated.


35 posted on 05/16/2013 9:22:35 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Former Navy Petty Officer Third Class Brian Lewis talks about a sexual assault "epidemic" within the U.S. military while speaking on Capitol Hill Thursday. Lewis emphasizes that his chain of command "failed" him during his time in the U.S. Navy.

36 posted on 05/16/2013 9:23:23 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That was quick. We had to suffer through "Don't Ask Don't Tell" for over a decade knowing it was just a holding pattern until they allowed gays to openly serve.

I thought they would have to wait another decade to open the barn door to trannies.

Oh well. Where do I stick the fork in the U.S. to make sure it's done?

37 posted on 05/16/2013 9:27:34 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Which is why leftists fight so hard to get all their “entitlements” in law. They know it’s easier to get something stuck forever than to reign it back in.


38 posted on 05/16/2013 9:28:22 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“We had to suffer through “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” for over a decade knowing it was just a holding pattern until they allowed gays to openly serve.”

Of course there was a President after Clinton who had eight years to get rid of it. But then he would have had to have been a conservative instead of a GOP phony pretending to be one.


39 posted on 05/16/2013 9:33:09 PM PDT by Pelham (Deport illegal aliens? Hell yes!)
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To: Pelham

SHUT UP! President Bush was a REAL friend of the military.


40 posted on 05/16/2013 9:49:14 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The thing about me is, vet, I’ve always had a combative personality that generally distrusts authority.

I suspect that if I had joined the military, eventually I’d be cut loose for not getting along with someone, not obeying properly or just generally being unmanageable.

It saddens me, because I imagine that military instruction would have benefitted me greatly in that regard, and perhaps would have helped me overcome that personality flaw.

The true root of my problem is that my father was not in my life from very early on, and knowing him it is probably for the best that he was not. What I see in the military is real men, and I wish that I could have learned from them, from even one.

I suppose that I am happy that I did have my step father, a coast guard captain of a drug busting boat in Miami. He was a son of a *****, a violent alcoholic who made my life, my brother’s and my mother’s Hell. But the manly things that I do know, that I was taught as a boy came from him, because despite his anger he cared enough to put them in me.

I think I have viewed the military as the place where true men are made and where they can be found, and it really, really bothers me that it is being changed in the particular way that it is being changed now.

I ramble on though. God bless you and thank you, vet.


41 posted on 05/16/2013 9:49:41 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Many real men have never worn a uniform. Taking care of your family, working hard, being a decent person, those are important.


42 posted on 05/16/2013 9:54:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: Pelham

I also had to sit through don’t ask don’t tell also. It was always a running joke.


43 posted on 05/16/2013 9:56:45 PM PDT by ofcrob2237
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most are easy to recognize as their shoes rarely match their purses. They don’t accessorize well.


44 posted on 05/16/2013 10:00:15 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This almost literally makes me feel sick.


45 posted on 05/16/2013 10:02:30 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Coldwater Creek

Oh? And what exactly did Dubya do to reverse Bill Clinton’s Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy? Other than nothing?

It figures that “shut up” is the best that you can do- otherwise you would have to try being honest about what Bush didn’t do. And while you’re so eloquently defending him, remind me what he did to reverse the encroachment of women in the military. What’s that you say? “Shut up”? I think you tried that once before.


46 posted on 05/16/2013 10:02:45 PM PDT by Pelham (Deport illegal aliens? Hell yes!)
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To: ofcrob2237

The problem is that policies like Don’t Ask Don’t Tell don’t remain at the level of a joke. They always end up getting good soldiers cashiered.

Remember Tailhook? Tailhook had been around for decades, but as soon as women began showing up then charges of sexual harassment ended some careers.

There will be similar fallout from granting veto power to the Queer Brigade.


47 posted on 05/16/2013 10:09:31 PM PDT by Pelham (Deport illegal aliens? Hell yes!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Sick,sick,sick.

You would think that a head case would be thrown out of the military.


48 posted on 05/16/2013 10:30:18 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ah, vet, those wise words do bring a smile :)


49 posted on 05/16/2013 10:34:10 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pentagon Pentagram.
50 posted on 05/16/2013 10:34:20 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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