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IRS chief defends targeting of groups as 'obnoxious,' not illegal
The Hill ^ | 05/17/13 12:23 PM ET | Bernie Becker and Peter Schroeder

Posted on 05/17/2013 10:12:04 AM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 05/17/2013 10:12:04 AM PDT by xzins
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Miller and his friends in the IRSS are the pinnacle of arrogant big government corrupt liars..

That hearing was an incredible conga-line of lies...

2 posted on 05/17/2013 10:14:59 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: xzins

No you a-wipe. It is a violation of federal law, the Hatch Act, to do what Obama had you do.


3 posted on 05/17/2013 10:16:20 AM PDT by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: xzins

So who will apologize to Nixon?


4 posted on 05/17/2013 10:16:55 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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when you could wind up doing some serious time,
it is usually better to keep QUIET (and let your lawyer talk for you)


5 posted on 05/17/2013 10:18:49 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: xzins
said he didn’t believe the scrutiny was illegal

Let's see what the Lawyers say.

6 posted on 05/17/2013 10:18:56 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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I disagree with Miller. I think their actions were illegal.

The law violated is: http://www.osc.gov/documents/hatchact/federal/5cfr734.pdf

Subpart C—Prohibited Activities § 734.301 Exclusion from coverage.

This subpart does not apply to employees in the agencies and positions described in subpart D of this part.

§ 734.302 Use of official authority; prohibition.

(a) An employee may not use his or her official authority or influence for the purpose of interfering with or affecting the result of an election.

(b) Activities prohibited by paragraph

(a) of this section include, but are not limited to:

and

§ 734.305 Soliciting or discouraging the political participation of certain persons.

(a) An employee may not knowingly solicit or discourage the participation in any political activity of any person who has an application for any compensation grant, contract, ruling, license, permit, or certificate pending before the employee’s employing office.

(b) An employee may not knowingly solicit or discourage the participation in any political activity of any person who is the subject of, or a participant in, an ongoing audit, investigation, or enforcement action being carried out by the employee’s employing office.

(c) Each agency or instrumentality of the United States or District of Columbia Government shall determine when a matter is pending and ongoing within employing offices of the agency or instrumentality for the purposes of this part.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

7 posted on 05/17/2013 10:19:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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This criminal act by the IRS was to sway voters away from Romney at the election. It was part of the huge conspiracy to destroy conservative Constitutionalists and to destroy our freedom. And it worked like all of King Obama and his communists Administration was working for. And a huge segment of voters supported the dictator King.
8 posted on 05/17/2013 10:19:25 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: shankbear

see post #7


9 posted on 05/17/2013 10:20:16 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Miller, who was forced to resign this week by President Obama

HE was THROWN UNDER THE OBAMA BLAME BUS!


10 posted on 05/17/2013 10:20:59 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: xzins

It’s called “DISCRIMINATION”.

And last time i checked, it IS illegal.


11 posted on 05/17/2013 10:21:46 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: princess leah; onyx; Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe

Steven Miller wasn’t even acting commissioner during the time the targeting took place. He was in charge of big business division and then “services and enforcement.”

A guy named Shulman was in charge at the time. So Obama’s firing of a guy who wasn’t even there, and who is able to retire, is an in-your-face.


12 posted on 05/17/2013 10:24:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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What do I think?

What I know is Miller and his corrupt IRS sidekick were lying nearly every time they spoke.

These people have no respect for freedom, the American people or the Constitution...Of course laws were breached.


13 posted on 05/17/2013 10:29:54 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: xzins

The House needs to hold a vote to Abolish the IRS with a Flat tax. Let the Democrats vote for the corrupt IRS now.


14 posted on 05/17/2013 10:30:33 AM PDT by Monorprise
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Steven Miller wasn’t even acting commissioner during the time the targeting took place.

Who gives a damn? Is he not just another brick in the corrupt biggov wall?

Did you not hear his lying evasive, deceitful responses?

Was it not obvious to you he's part of this choreographed corrupt government cover up?

15 posted on 05/17/2013 10:34:02 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ThomasMore
Too funny.

I guess that now we taxpayers can refuse to pay our federal taxes, and we can argue that our refusal to pay our taxes is merely "obnoxious" and not "illegal." Too funny.

16 posted on 05/17/2013 10:35:05 AM PDT by john mirse
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I would like to know if all the applications from tea party groups for tax-exempt status are now being fast-tracked at the IRS.

And I would like to see what the new questionnaire looks like.


17 posted on 05/17/2013 10:36:11 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: xzins

I think you, like other members who will post violations of ‘law’, show, again, that the Law is not made for those in D.C., but for We the People, whom they attempt to bleed ($$) dry.

There is no longer Equal Protection under the Law, there is no Constitution; we are a lawless Democracy on the way down to revolt, upheaval and despair. We are certainly over the ~200 yr run of those in the past.


18 posted on 05/17/2013 10:36:30 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: xzins

Forced to resign my ass. He had already put in his papers, and now Obama wants to play hard ass by saying he forced it.

Lying sacks of crap, just can’t help it they have to lie.


19 posted on 05/17/2013 10:37:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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20 posted on 05/17/2013 10:39:31 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: xzins

Violating someone’s Civil Rights under color of authority must break dozens of laws.


21 posted on 05/17/2013 10:40:10 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (WHO IS ON THE ENEMIES LIST?)
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http://www.allgov.com/news/appointments-and-resignations/acting-commissioner-of-the-internal-revenue-service-irs-who-is-steven-miller-121215?news=846487

...Miller has served most of his 25 years at the IRS, an agency in the Treasury Department, in its Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division (TE/GE).

Starting as special assistant to the assistant commissioner for Employee Plans and Exempt Organizations, Miller rose to acting assistant commissioner, then director of Exempt Organizations from 1999 to 2004, capping his TE/GE service as commissioner of TE/GE from 2004 to April 2009...


22 posted on 05/17/2013 10:40:16 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: xzins

Steven Miller is all political theater.

I didn’t bother to watch the charade this morning.


23 posted on 05/17/2013 10:41:40 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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Steven Miller is all political theater.

Theater? Bad actor?

Fact is, Miller is a vile lying evasive deceitful snake.

This was inordinately clear.

24 posted on 05/17/2013 10:51:55 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: xzins

Check again, Chuckles. It’s illegal as hell. BTT.


25 posted on 05/17/2013 10:56:07 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Acting IRS chief Steven Miller on Friday said he did not believe agency officials did anything illegal when giving extra scrutiny to conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.

GOOOOD F******G LOOOOORRRDDDDDD!!!!!

So Nixon was doing the RIGHT thing with HIS I.R.S. targetting.

I guarentee you by decades end, there will be mass killings of 'undesirable citizens' and the Czar will defend the practice as "obnoxious but not illegal."

26 posted on 05/17/2013 11:00:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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Holder is not the only one in DC who knows nothing. Miller knows nothing either.


27 posted on 05/17/2013 11:11:29 AM PDT by jch10 (The greatest threat to America is the Democrats.)
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To: xzins

Minorities in IRS: What is the percentage? I heard it was 50%. Is that true?


28 posted on 05/17/2013 11:17:47 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: dragnet2

You’re not paying attention.

If Miller wasn’t in charge at the time, then what exactly was the point of firing him.

They might as well have fired you.

Obama got away with offering up the wrong guy.


29 posted on 05/17/2013 12:20:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: jjotto

But not during the run up to the election of 2012.


30 posted on 05/17/2013 12:21:57 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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hehe

In the runup to 2012, he was in charge of Enforcement!

His testimony was way too evasive and offensive for him not to be up to his ears.


31 posted on 05/17/2013 12:28:19 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: xzins

Jail time for all involved.


32 posted on 05/17/2013 12:30:28 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: xzins

Harassing people under the color of law is a federal offense. Hang ‘em!


33 posted on 05/17/2013 12:32:27 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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Yes. In 2009 he went from tax exempts first to Big Business department and then to services and enforcement.

Doug Shulman was the guy in charge when conservative groups were targeted. He retired and Miller took charge on Nov 9, 3 days after the election.


34 posted on 05/17/2013 12:52:48 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Being from Cincy originally, I know that the IRS building is smack amidst those precincts that went 95-100% for Obama.


35 posted on 05/17/2013 12:54:17 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Before it’s over, Geithner’s fingerprints will be all over this too.


36 posted on 05/17/2013 12:55:15 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Geithner’s leaving takes on a new dimension, doesn’t it?


37 posted on 05/17/2013 12:57:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Steven Miller wasn’t even acting commissioner during the time the targeting took place.

Did you not hear his lying evasive, deceitful responses?

Was it not obvious to you he's part of this choreographed corrupt government cover up?

You’re not paying attention. If Miller wasn’t in charge at the time, then what exactly was the point of firing him.

Uh...Please direct your attention to the two sentences above. Once again, just a wild guess, but based strictly on his evasive deceptive responses, he's part of the cover up. If not, why in hell would his responses be evasive and deceptive?

Obviously, this AH is part of the coverup, and likely was fired as part of a diversionary tactic. It's might comes as a shock to you, but government is really good at this kind of thing.

This is not that complex.

38 posted on 05/17/2013 3:40:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Question Miller all they want, get all the info they can from him. I’ve no problem with that. However, they’ll not be getting info from a person in charge of that function at that time.

And his firing was Obama giving the middle finger to all of us.

They should have fired the lady who was promoted to the ObamaCare department of the IRS. She was involved in the actual misdeeds at the critical times.


39 posted on 05/17/2013 3:44:39 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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You're not paying attention...Miller was fired as part of the coverup, to make ya think they were punishing the wrong doers. They should have fired the lady who was promoted to the ObamaCare department of the IRS. She was involved in the actual misdeeds at the critical times.

Hello? Are you talking about Ingram?

""Sarah Hall Ingram served as commissioner of the office responsible for tax-exempt organizations between 2009 and 2012. But Ingram has since left that part of the IRS and is now the director of the IRS’ Affordable Care Act office, the IRS confirmed to ABC News today.""

Her successor, Joseph Grant, is taking the fall for misdeeds at the scandal-plagued unit between 2010 and 2012. During at least part of that time, Grant served as deputy commissioner of the tax-exempt unit.

Grant announced today that he would retire June 3, despite being appointed as commissioner of the tax-exempt office May 8, a week ago.

You don't think all these people are involved?

You don't think they will depose and interrogate Ingram?

40 posted on 05/17/2013 4:12:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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You keep repeating his firing was Obama giving the middle finger to all of us.

This was a way to make the dummies think he's taking action. It's all part of the diversion and deception.

This isn't over zin.

It's just started.

41 posted on 05/17/2013 4:26:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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I find it unusual that you don’t realize that Obama’s firing Miller was just a ploy.

So be it.

Go on being happy that Obama gave everyone the finger.

I suppose it’s even possible you believe Obama was really, honestly trying to make the right people pay for this.


42 posted on 05/17/2013 5:30:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Try reading real slow, #40 and 41.

Please read prior to commenting and stop babbling. Thanks!


43 posted on 05/17/2013 6:49:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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This was a way to make the dummies think he's taking action. It's all part of the diversion and deception.

Finally, you're seeing the light.

44 posted on 05/18/2013 6:38:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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This was a way to make the dummies think he's taking action. It's all part of the diversion and deception.

Finally, you're seeing the light.

45 posted on 05/18/2013 6:38:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Steven Miller wasn’t even acting commissioner during the time the targeting took place.

I noted early on you totally evaded these questions below.

_________________________________________________________

Did you not hear his lying evasive, deceitful responses?

Was it not obvious to you he's part of this choreographed corrupt government cover up?

46 posted on 05/18/2013 9:55:01 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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So Obama’s firing of a guy who wasn’t even there, and who is able to retire, is an in-your-face.

And ya got this wrong too.

Obama had this guy resign in an effort to deceive the American people into thinking he, "Got tough, took charge and made those responsible pay"

It's was all bull cheet to deceive...It had zip to do with, Obama doing this to "Be in your face".

Get it right zin.

47 posted on 05/18/2013 10:05:15 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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I have answered and posted about Miller all along. My point is, and always has been, that he’s not the one that should have been fired to get Obama off the media hook. As I’ve said again and again, he wasn’t in charge of either the IRS or the relevant department at the critical times.


48 posted on 05/18/2013 10:17:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Get it right zin...


49 posted on 05/18/2013 10:18:48 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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It’s more than deceit. It’s a two-fer. He got to act tough will giving you the middle finger. EVERYONE knew Miller wasn’t in charge at the time of the run-up to the election.

I am right. I’ve been right all along.

In your case, though, you need someone to bow to your superior intellect.

Please consider this my admission that you are the master of the universe.


50 posted on 05/18/2013 10:19:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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