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President Asterisk: Why the Obama IRS scandal may be worse than "a cancer on the presidency."
The Wall Street Journal ^ | May 17, 2013 | James Taranto

Posted on 05/17/2013 3:48:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

No one can deny that Barack Obama is a highly skilled politician, at least by the measure of election outcomes. His record is undefeated, save for an ill-advised 2000 primary challenge to an entrenched incumbent congressman. His 2008 presidential victory, after a fraction of a term in the U.S. Senate, was especially dazzling. It disproved those who said that Hillary Clinton was invincible, that a left-wing Democrat couldn't win, and that America wasn't ready for a black president.

No one can deny that Lance Armstrong and Mark McGwire were highly skilled athletes. But their accomplishments are forever tainted by their use of banned performance-enhancing drugs. The use of the Internal Revenue Service's coercive power to suppress dissent against Obama is the political equivalent of steroids. The history books should record Obama's re-election with an asterisk to indicate that it was achieved with the help of illicit means.

The Weekly Standard notes that the NBC's Lisa Myers "reported this morning that the IRS deliberately chose not to reveal that it had wrongly targeted conservative groups until after the 2012 presidential election":

The IRS commissioner "has known for at least a year that this was going on," said Myers, "and that this had happened. And did he share any of that information with the White House? But even more importantly, Congress is going to ask him, why did you mislead us for an entire year? Members of Congress were saying conservatives are being targeted. What's going on here? The IRS denied it. Then when--after these officials are briefed by the [inspector general] that this is going on, they don't disclose it. In fact, the commissioner sent a letter to Congress in September on this subject and did not reveal this.....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gettherope; impeachnow; internalrevenue; irs; loislerner; obama; teaparty
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1 posted on 05/17/2013 3:48:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Constitutional crisis.


2 posted on 05/17/2013 3:52:26 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No one can deny that Barack Obama is a highly skilled politician.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That means theft, deception, and out and out lies!
Skill No. Inept Press, Peers, and Voters. Yes!


3 posted on 05/17/2013 3:52:29 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Everyone seems to be attempting a "as like unto" statement.

Benghazi is like unto (the original) 9/11 ... The IRS scandal is like unto Watergate .. (etc.)

How about Benghazi IS derelection of duty and murder ... The IRS scandal IS illegal and unConstitutional.

4 posted on 05/17/2013 3:52:54 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well..., I've got one.

No one can deny that Barack Obama is a highly skilled politician, at least by the measure of election outcomes.

Just how highly skilled do you have to be to benefit from:

the press giving you a pass
the republican party self-destructing
the scandals that are right there in front of everyone's noses going unaddressed
the media playing house with him, and not reporting anything negative
nobody addressing election fraud or actually taking it seriously
nobody taking his history seriously
nobody listening (if it's anti-Obama, it has to be propaganda, dismiss it)
anything they can't dismiss, is attributed to racism
the opposition candidate actually endorses you...

I'm convinced we could go on for hours...

5 posted on 05/17/2013 3:55:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
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To: Conserev1

Like Hitler and Stalin were highly skilled politicians.


6 posted on 05/17/2013 3:56:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: knarf
The point they are making, is that Nixon was a crook, and so Obama is not so bad really.

They have to remind folks that the Republican are every bit as bad as Democrats, despite the fact the Republicans have never gotten away with the kinds of things Obama and his crew have.

7 posted on 05/17/2013 3:56:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nice...


8 posted on 05/17/2013 3:57:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
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To: knarf

Good Points, FRiend.


9 posted on 05/17/2013 3:59:25 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberal: A person who charges their grandchildren for today's party)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I seem to remember Valerie Jarrett stating that the libtards had “two judges ready to go”.

Well, no retirement signs yet. Perhaps even the liberal judges are starting to think this guy is too crooked to be given another appointment opportunity.

Whatever happens, impeachment or not. Obama is finished. He is a LAME DUCK. In fact, he’s a duck with both legs broken.


10 posted on 05/17/2013 4:00:06 PM PDT by Viennacon (l)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>>Like Hitler and Stalin were highly skilled politicians.<<

But Hugo Chavez gave obozo the playbook.


11 posted on 05/17/2013 4:02:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The best response that any Republican could give is......okay so according to Democrats these are the new rules and it is all A-OK. Well remember that when there is a Republican president again. There may even be some rules that are okay for the Republican House to break now.
Then listen to them howl.


12 posted on 05/17/2013 4:04:04 PM PDT by sheana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Democrats are falling back on the "Idiot Defense".

They deny republican accusations that they are liars, evil and corrupt.

"We are not evil and corrupt liars - we are just incompetent idiots."


13 posted on 05/17/2013 4:05:52 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: knarf

How about Benghazi IS derelection of duty and murder ... The IRS scandal IS illegal and unConstitutional.


That is what needs to be said.


14 posted on 05/17/2013 4:05:52 PM PDT by MWestMom (Psalms 109:8)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


15 posted on 05/17/2013 4:07:22 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The IRS thuggery, which tone was set by the Chicago Way oBamanoid liar-in-chief, is yet another example of unions being a platoon serving the demcorips, working to silence the opposition to their criminal bastard boy.

And these same union thugs are scheduled to run the entire healthcare system in the United States. Are we to believe the fool republicants couldn't see this train wreck, this salughter of sovereignty coming?

Please, explain for me, somone, how it is that the republicants couldn't know a union was going to be the master of all health files of every American?

This is not leadership nor even opposition to the thuggery. This would be proisecuted as complicity in criminal behavior if it were dropped into a court case! And now, even with all the criminality of democrip union thugs running the IRS from top to bottom, these same republicants cannot muster enough courage to sending a few of these thugs to prison because the media might call them bullies?

*holding my nose* Whew, I think we have an answer for the founder who told that woman they had given US a Republic, if we could keep it. The treachery of blackmailable elected republicant slugs encourages the criminality of the democrips.

16 posted on 05/17/2013 4:08:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: DoughtyOne

A supremely apt comparison.

His method is to pass draconian laws, rules and regulations then curry favor by exempting select elements. Simply put Extortion.


17 posted on 05/17/2013 4:08:43 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: DoughtyOne

You nailed it!


18 posted on 05/17/2013 4:09:24 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Mount Tambora of political scandals is about to erupt....
19 posted on 05/17/2013 4:12:32 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I’m so sick of the idea this guy is smart or gifted.

He’s a moron that has been gifted his present position.

He had the right color skin, and hated the nation enough to get the Democrat endorsement.


20 posted on 05/17/2013 4:13:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Thank you.


21 posted on 05/17/2013 4:13:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams lead story Friday May 17, 2013: Weather
22 posted on 05/17/2013 4:13:56 PM PDT by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: DoughtyOne

The main difference is the first time around it was a cute phrase coined by the left (walter chronkite?) to describe Nixon and make his actions seem beyond the pale. This time around, it’s true. The presidency now resembles the lungs of a two pack per day smoking chimney sweep working at a radiation lab.


23 posted on 05/17/2013 4:20:19 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

I get your point, and it’s true. It wasn’t Wally though. Nixon brought it all on himself by at one point saying, “I am not a crook.”

LOL, what a true giver the guy was. LOL


24 posted on 05/17/2013 4:25:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What was that scandal of MSM employees working together? Journal list? Or something like that. MSM, et al. working with an Administration. . .

The history books should record Obama's re-election with an asterisk to indicate that it was achieved with the help of illicit means. . . . the left's hateful and slanderous campaign against its political foes, especially the Tea Party--the demagoguery of Obama, his fellow Democrats and their supporters in the media, led by the New York Times editorial page--was sufficient to prompt the IRS agents to cast aside their professional obligations and embark on a campaign of political abuse whose effect was to ease Obama's re-election.

This is emerging IMO as nothing less than a coup d'état attempt. Especially if Obama Administration personnel are involved.

This is extremely serious and treason with the maximum penalty upon conviction is called for. IMO.

Could this election interference ("election-year struggle" that we all now know about!) and all that it encompasses explain why so many were wrong about the outcome of the election?

Could this be the crisis Abe talked about that now has been reached between statist America and free America? The statists with massive abuse of trust stole the election.

. . . You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

25 posted on 05/17/2013 4:27:07 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Obama’s IRS delayed approval of conservative groups until AFTER the 2012 election. So the IRS rigged the election for Obama. all these tea party groups if allowed to participate also would have gotten more conservative Republicans elected to the House and Senate. So Obama’s IRS rigged the election stole the presidency, stole the Senate for democrats/socialists and made the House more liberal. This is illegal and unconstitutional. email this to congressmen so they are aware of that the IRS and Obama’s plan was to steal the election by shutting down the tea party.


26 posted on 05/17/2013 4:29:46 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Conserev1

He is a totus, that’s it! The empty chair metaphor fits as well as his empty suit!


27 posted on 05/17/2013 4:30:38 PM PDT by blaveda (blaveda)
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To: Iron Munro

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28 posted on 05/17/2013 4:32:53 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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29 posted on 05/17/2013 4:34:26 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Obama administration are the one's who planted this question at a Bar association meeting http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/irs-planted-question-about-tax-exempt-groups/

Benghazi is the scandal they wish to bury.

30 posted on 05/17/2013 4:40:39 PM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
People should read the piece instead of taking cheap shots at Taranto, because he makes an important point.

If this was the work of someone in the White House or another Presidential appointee, we can fix that by firings or even impeachment.

It may be an even scarier proposition, however, if people within the IRS dreamed this up and just thought that harassing and suppressing conservative groups was the right thing to do. The latter would indicate corruption deeply embedded in the federal bureaucracy, an even harder problem to fix. Given the performance before Congress by that asshat former Acting Director, we may have a problem deeply embedded in the IRS, the second most powerful agency in the government.

31 posted on 05/17/2013 4:42:27 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>No one can deny that Barack Obama is a highly skilled politician, at least by the measure of election outcomes.<

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The only reason that 0 is “skilled” is that he has the sycophantic support of the MSM and a spineless GOP as the opposition.

Without them he would not have been able to make it to first base.


32 posted on 05/17/2013 5:13:53 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Iron Munro

Where are the members of the Muslim Brotherhood in the picture?

Have they been photoshopped out?


33 posted on 05/17/2013 5:16:50 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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34 posted on 05/17/2013 5:24:57 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Iron Munro

“Democrats are falling back on the “Idiot Defense”.

The problem is, that with most of the people they put up there, this seems plausible. The real brains of the operation are invisible and nowhere to be seen.


35 posted on 05/17/2013 5:27:22 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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36 posted on 05/17/2013 5:45:02 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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37 posted on 05/17/2013 6:09:45 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: colorado tanker

Sorry, that’s a good attempt to defend Obama, but the IRS couldn’t get away with this without approval from above.

IRS employees did not spontaneously think this up themselves. That would be insane. I will bet that a lot of them are sweating bullets right now thinking about jail terms, because what they have done is so blatantly illegal that they would never have dared to do it on their own.

The ethos would have encouraged them and made them trust orders from above, no matter how illegal, since it appears that 100% of the employees at the Cincinatti office donated either to Obama or to Sherrod Brown.

But the orders came from elsewhere.


38 posted on 05/17/2013 7:10:55 PM PDT by livius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A breach of public trust of this scale is *irreparable*. If the tax code is not completely overhauled and the IRS eliminated (yes, I know how radical that notion is), citizens’ trust in government will be near ZERO. And in a political system such as ours, when public trust is completely broken, all bets are off.

And *forget* about any IRS health-care enforcement! If that goes forward, I truly fear civil unrest. This institutionalized persecution of crimethink opens the door to Dystopia. Our Overlords dare not open that door....


39 posted on 05/17/2013 7:25:56 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: MHGinTN
Are we to believe the fool republicants couldn't see this train wreck, this salughter of sovereignty coming?.... Please, explain for me, somone, how it is that the republicants couldn't know a union was going to be the master of all health files of every American?.... these same republicants cannot muster enough courage to sending a few of these thugs to prison because the media might call them bullies?

Never let facts get in the way of a good rant. Not one republican in either the House of Representatives nor the Senate voted for the health care law. No member of the Congress nor the Congress as a whole has any authority to send anyone to prison. Properly directed anger can be a useful tool, but when it is so off base it can do nothing but demoralize those persons working against great odds to bring the gross misconduct of this administration to light.

40 posted on 05/17/2013 7:37:40 PM PDT by etcb
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To: etcb
So, you're trying to tell us that the republicants now in control of the House cannot repeal the entire piece of crap and let Reid try to justify not handing that along? Lick their boots. Go ahead, lick ...

MEN like Trey Gowdy are working, and a WOMAN like Bachman is working, but they are a small minority of the republicants, the others show how they are willing to sell their souls.

41 posted on 05/17/2013 7:49:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: etcb

BTW, boot licker, can you name just one republicant who made the case that unions should not be the arm of fedzilla running the entire healthcare system? Just one for the record.


42 posted on 05/17/2013 7:51:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

In reply to both post 41 and 42....

The House of Representatives just this week voted to repeal the entire health care bill. In normal order, this bill will be referred to the Senate for consideration. In all probability, it will suffer the same fate as the multiple other repeal bill passed by the republican led house during the past couple of years. Again, all republicans voted against the health care bill and the involvement of the IRS was one of the stated reasons.

By the way, name calling is a poor excuse for debate but if it enhances your self image, have at it.


43 posted on 05/17/2013 8:14:34 PM PDT by etcb
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like calling him President Asterisk. We should thank the man who came up with it. Let him go down in history for creating it.


44 posted on 05/17/2013 8:19:49 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I deny he is a highly skilled politician.

If it weren’t for blanket protection by corrupt press and liberal organizations, the man would look like a crooked buffoon.

Howdy Doody would look like a “skilled politician” if he had the press protection Obozo has.

Also, even most of the Dems don’t like his aloof behavior & superior condescending attitude to them. They just hate Pubbies and have no ethical restraints about what they do to stay in power.

Is it a skilled politician that can’t speak for 5 minutes without teleprompters? What is so difficult about speaking from outlines on 3x5 cards? Done well all the time by people far less “brilliant” than The One. Anyone remember the campaign speech at a HS gym where *he* said he would have to discontinue his speech because a power failure shut down his teleprompter? That’s an example of a brilliant and skilled politician? Bull.


45 posted on 05/17/2013 9:04:35 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: etcb

well played insult! LOL


46 posted on 05/17/2013 9:56:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: etcb
House of Representatives just this week voted to repeal the entire health care bill.

That same house has voted to fund ObamaCare several times, and have fended off ever attempt to defund it.

XBONE is no friend of the Tea Party Patriots.

47 posted on 05/17/2013 11:40:33 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; onyx
But if the IRS acted without direction from above--if it "went rogue" against the Constitution and in support of the party in power--then we are dealing with a cancer on the federal government. That, it seems to us, is a far direr diagnosis, one whose treatment is likely to be radical and risky.

Never let an opportunity go to waste. Repeal the Sixteenth Amendment. Push for a flat tax!

48 posted on 05/18/2013 11:44:59 AM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: livius
My post was not a defense of Obama. Why won't anyone read the darn piece?

The point is a politicized bureaucracy is an even bigger problem than a corrupt administration. Administrations can be exposed and forced to fire people or be voted out. But if the rot extends to the bureaucrats, they have civil service protection and a much bigger fix is required. I hope all we have here is a corrupt administration.

50 posted on 05/20/2013 9:53:23 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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