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Gov. Perry: I Cannot Support Lackluster Immigration Bill [Includes Video]
Newsmax ^ | Thursday, May 16, 2013 | By Bill Hoffmann and Kathleen Walter

Posted on 05/17/2013 6:48:06 PM PDT by LUV W

There is no way Texas Gov. Rick Perry can support the bipartisan immigration reform bill because, he says, it fails to deal satisfactorily with border security.

"You cannot have a legitimate conversation about immigration reform until you deal with the issue of border security. And, as far as I'm concerned, this bill does not address it,'' Perry told Newsmax TV in an exclusive interview.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: border; immigration; perry; texas
Standing strong on immigration and border security is what we need right now...not amnesty!
1 posted on 05/17/2013 6:48:06 PM PDT by LUV W
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To: LUV W

Glad to hear it Rick. Perhaps now you will abandon your no fence BS and rejoin people who love America.


2 posted on 05/17/2013 6:50:44 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Arrowhead1952; NYTexan; mylife; Eaker; TheMom; laurenmarlowe; El Gato; RebelTex; smokingfrog; ...

Texas immigration/border security ping!


3 posted on 05/17/2013 6:51:08 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I hope so, too, Norm! It’s gotten nearly to the point of no return.


4 posted on 05/17/2013 6:54:03 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: LUV W

Why we continue to discuss border security as if it were a novel idea, is beyond me.

Are we certain that we are an autonomous nation or should we ask the UN to verify this?


5 posted on 05/17/2013 6:54:31 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: LUV W
I hope so, too, Norm! It’s gotten nearly to the point of no return.

We passed that point a long time ago, friend.

6 posted on 05/17/2013 7:05:01 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: LUV W

How is he on amnesty?


7 posted on 05/17/2013 7:05:36 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: LUV W

Implement the enforcement component of the 1986 law!!!!!!!!!!


8 posted on 05/17/2013 7:08:24 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Eagles6

Pretty sure he’s against it. I’m not a real amnesty expert but everything that I’ve read indicates that.


9 posted on 05/17/2013 7:10:55 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: LUV W

Ricardo Perro Caliente needs to stiffen up his own position in fact. As far as I know he prefers Mexican kids in the seats in Texas universities to having American kids there. He’s never successfully clarified that position.


10 posted on 05/17/2013 7:14:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ScottinVA
Implement the enforcement component of the 1986 law!!!!!!!!!!

The one that says being in this country illegally is a misdemeanor?

That enforcement component...???

11 posted on 05/17/2013 7:17:46 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Glad to hear it Rick. Perhaps now you will abandon your no fence BS and rejoin people who love America.

Not to mention reversing taxpayer funded in state tuition giveaways to illegals. Have a heart for legitimate Texans, Rick.

12 posted on 05/17/2013 7:23:57 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: LUV W; El Gato; Eaker; hocndoc; Squantos; SwinneySwitch; MeekOneGOP; weegee; lentulusgracchus; ...
Thanks, LUV. Pinging the rest of the Texas posse to the thread.



13 posted on 05/17/2013 7:35:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TADSLOS

So many liberal positions and yet people still defend the freaking fraud as a right wing conservative.

On a bunch of issues like energy/getting fedgov out of landuse/ he’s great. On the immigration thing he hands out ‘rights’ and bennies like candy to invaders and more conservative frauds line up to defend it.

I am sick to death of this crap. And for the people claiming he’s conservative, explain his giveaways or sit silently until you can prove he doesn’t really do that.


14 posted on 05/17/2013 7:35:37 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: LUV W

I don’t particularly care about the “amnesty” aspect, because I don’t think there’s any other way to make people declare themselves. They’re already here, so examine them and if they’re not harmful to the US, let them stay. We have the information. Heck, tell the IRS they’re Tea Partiers and we’ll have the results of their latest colonoscopy on the desk tomorrow!

But, seriously, make sure they’re not harmful to the US. No criminals, none of Obama’s buds on the terrorist watch list, etc. Unfortunately, the Obama government will send back the Mexican gardeners and let the wealth Saudi jihadis stay...

However, the big problem is that people think of the “border” as relating only to Mexico. But every international airport is the border, and most of the terrorists who have struck us or tried to strike us have come in over those “borders” and, furthermore, most have come in legally. They may have stayed on illegally, but the problem is that we are not even controlling a very controllable border (the airports) well.

So yes, we do need to think about better border control, but we’ve got to think beyond Mexico.


15 posted on 05/17/2013 7:38:24 PM PDT by livius
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To: Windflier

You’re very welcome! I’m sure my list is only a partial one...but thank you for taking care of completing the circle! :)


16 posted on 05/17/2013 7:40:19 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Windflier

Thanks for the ping!


17 posted on 05/17/2013 7:50:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: LUV W

Coming from a guy who supports Amnesty (he signed the TX bill giving in state college tuition to illegal aliens).....this bill must truly have some major problems


18 posted on 05/17/2013 7:55:21 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: okie01

I was thinking more along the lines of “securing the border.”


19 posted on 05/17/2013 8:02:56 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: livius

So....they mostly all stay & are made legal. With chain immigration & family reuification we are looking at between 30 to 50 million people flooding the USA from the third world in the next 25 years. You think that’s ok ?


20 posted on 05/17/2013 8:08:33 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LUV W
Perry is way off the mark. As Marco Rubio has explained many times, the bill will provide border security like never before. He says that if there is not a solid proposal for securing the border in 6 years, there will be a commission appointed!

/facepalm

21 posted on 05/17/2013 8:13:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: LongWayHome

I want us to control this situation. No more chain immigration and no more automatic family reunification.

But these people don’t crawl across the Mexican border. They’re legally admitted and come in through Customs and Immigration in your very own airport. I travel internationally a lot, and if I hear another call for an Arabic translator at the Atlanta airport....


22 posted on 05/17/2013 8:16:30 PM PDT by livius
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To: ScottinVA
I was thinking more along the lines of “securing the border.”

Did you realize, though, that under the 1986 law, illegally crossing the border was only a misdemeanor?

And that's one of the problems with "securing the border". A misdemeanor offense is not going to get treated seriously.

23 posted on 05/17/2013 8:17:06 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: Lancey Howard

It’s one of the more frustrating issues of this time. We
are...no insult to anyone here I hope....overrun here in
my area...and sure the rest of the state is, too.

Shoulda happened 10 years ago...without a committee!!


24 posted on 05/17/2013 8:18:03 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Windflier; All

Thanks for the PING.

Gov. Perry may be a good ol’ boy to y’all, but his fantasy of a “secure” border in Texas is just another money pit that will have little or no effect.

The US/Mexico Border is over 2, 000 miles long, with 1200 of those miles in Texas.

Mexicans and other alien illegal invaders enter the USA for Welfare and Wages.

Deny Welfare to aliens and aggressively collect fines US employers of $1,000 per hired alien illegal invader, per day.

Other necessary effective additions to the Rubio 8 Senate Gangsters Bill are repeal and abolish the Anchor Baby Law and the Treat for free Hospital Emergency Room Law.

BTW, what Welfare and Wages treatment would US Legal Citizens receive in Mexico if we illegally invaded Mexico?

The bottom line is that the US Border Invasion by illegal aliens has overwhelmed the USA since 1986, and now it is all about the money, our money - - - .


25 posted on 05/17/2013 8:21:13 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: livius
They’re already here, so examine them and if they’re not harmful to the US, let them stay

Yeah sure. YOU pay for their welfare, food stamps, Section 8 housing, school education, and health care.
Knock yourself out.

26 posted on 05/17/2013 8:23:16 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: livius

Of course you know that chain immigration & family reunification are in this bill, and WILL not be taken out....that’s a solid fact. There is no talk by republicans or democrats of ever ending chain immigration. So if you support amnesty you support 50 million poor third wolders who will vote for democrats. Most of these new citizens will also be on some kind of welfare. It will be the end of the USA as we know it.


27 posted on 05/17/2013 8:23:18 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LUV W

Just wondering, what WOULD the Perry disinformers and haters say if Perry was FOR the bill.

Seeing as how he’s savaged when firmly against it.

MY MY.

Thanks, Rick.

Here’s one who gets it.

Secure the border, shut up about everything else. That’s your position. I can read, and I don’t hate.


28 posted on 05/17/2013 8:39:49 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

I hope he stays strong and gets something done. Hard to do
when the feds are contradicting everything you try!


29 posted on 05/17/2013 8:44:24 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: LUV W

Jerry Patterson who is running for Lt. Governor is devoting a substantial portion of his campaigning to greatly increasing the guest worker program. Not sure if any other Republicans have thrown their hat in the ring yet but his is sure not the one to vote for.


30 posted on 05/17/2013 8:46:20 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

I think we already have enough “guest” workers...unwanted ones!

No...I had heard that Greg Abbott was running, but totally not sure.


31 posted on 05/17/2013 8:52:37 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: LUV W

Also heard that about Abbott. He would be a great Lt. Gov. but we really need him to remain as AG. Maybe we could just clone Abbott and Senator Cruz while we were at it.


32 posted on 05/17/2013 8:57:37 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

That would be awesome if we could! LOL!

They are the strongest advocates that we’ve had in forEVER!


33 posted on 05/17/2013 8:59:15 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: LUV W

I remember Perry saying, when running in 2012, that everyone should refuse to even discuss immigration law changes, that the only discussion ought to be, secure the border.

That’s what’s wrong with this stupid bill in Congress. Apparently it goes on and on and on with these complicated, detailed plans and schemes and we all know the border isn’t and won’t be secured.

And the other thing that’s wrong is that we the people are being run roughshod over by these secret groups in Congress negotiating to create a montrosity of a bill of which we have no knowledge and no control.

Oh yeah, and we have a regime in power that is only interested in getting around what laws we have and we’re supposed to believe they would enforce other laws? And the face of this in Congress is people like Chuck Schumer and Dick Durbin??

Rubio and now Paul Ryan make me ill.


34 posted on 05/17/2013 9:02:30 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: LUV W

I’m really getting tired of the Rubio and Ryan ad running on local radio and TV. Rubio says illegals will come out of the shadows, pay a fine, and not be elegible for benefits for 13? years. Why would any of the illegals who are getting benefits come out of the shadow, pay a fine and stop getting benefits? He goes on to say the first thing will be to secure the border. I know the rat Senator in Ohio (Brown) and Chuckie Schumer have amnesty first on the list. We’re being sold a bill of goods by representatives moving over to the establishment darkside.


35 posted on 05/17/2013 9:09:15 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: txrangerette

I was furious when Rubio turned on us and pandered to the illegal element just because they are mostly his race.

I call that racist!


36 posted on 05/17/2013 9:10:03 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: OrioleFan

They run seems like every few minutes on all the conservative radio talk shows, and they claim to be “conservatives” for immigration reform. I’m about to throw something at the radio, or throw the radio itself, I’m so fed up.


37 posted on 05/17/2013 9:15:47 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: LUV W

I’m wondering what Paul Ryan’s excuse could be, since he’s as far from that ethnicity as he can be.

I’m wondering if the GOP E might be planning to pretend that they’re listening to the Tea Party and are willing to throw Jeb Bush under the bus in favor of a Ryan/Rubio ticket, which would CLAIM to be conservative.

Which would then go and “outreach” to Hispanics and Homosexuals(Ryan supports some gay issues) to say, hey, we’re not so bad, pretty please won’t you consider voting for us?

Meanwhile to mollify the Tea Party they will verbally attack “big government in Washington”.

Just a thought.

It’s those ADS that got me to wondering if that could be their plan.


38 posted on 05/17/2013 9:29:33 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

Heaven knows what the agenda is at this point. I do know that I agree with Barbara Bush that we don’t need any more Bushes! :)


39 posted on 05/17/2013 9:43:45 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: LUV W

Yes, she got that one right.

Will be keeping a sharp eye on the Ryan and Rubio tag team after being inundated with those utterly obnoxious ads.

The ad makers and R/R must think we’re awfully stupid. They are an insult to us all.


40 posted on 05/17/2013 9:53:41 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: LongWayHome

Family unification is a deal breaker. If they have jumped the border, they bring no one with them for five years and then none other than core family. Wife and kids. No ma, no pa even. And no kids older than 13.


41 posted on 05/17/2013 11:22:45 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS

Since family reunification has been enshrined in law since 1965 it’s not going anywhere. So ANY amnesty brings 50 million in. There’s no way around it. They will not stop chain immigration, period.


42 posted on 05/17/2013 11:45:39 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: txrangerette

Perry is no conservative.

Not only is he pro-Amnesty with his in state college tuition for illegals.... he forced young girls to take an STD vaccine....that not only offended family-values Texans.....but the vaccine (HPV) itself has a high fail rate and a high kill rate. Perry did this without the state legislature voting on it, and received a bribe from the vaccine maker. Folks in TX killed the program after they heard about it

And I haven’t even got to his land-grab private property seizure for the NAFTA Superhighway....

Rick Perry is no Conservative..... look at his actions....and not what he says


43 posted on 05/18/2013 4:55:24 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: LUV W
Standing strong on immigration and border security is what we need right now...not amnesty!

This has been the topic on the KLBJ talk shows in Austin for a week or so. The Austin silly council wants to make the city an immigrant friendly city with the focus on Hispanics and Latinos. The only thing I am not for that the gov is, is instate college tuition, even if the kids have been here all their lives.

There have been a lot of third or fourth generation callers who really oppose that idea. We have a Hispanic couple living up the street from us. They hate the illegal immigrants as much as I do. Neither is fluent in Spanish. She had to learn Spanish to work at the bank at her new job.

44 posted on 05/18/2013 5:14:18 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Graewoulf; Windflier

I agree with every point you make. I do believe the CBP could and would do a much better job if the ROEs were changed. I have worked with these fine people for a while now and their heart is in the hunt but their hands have been tied by our FERAL Government

Also armed military with ROEs to engage drug smugglers with weapons hot must be issued. You spot a mule train or vehicle suspected of drug running you light it up. After a few illegal smugglers get smoked they will quit running from CBP. Right now the illegals and their smugglers know all they need to do is go above the speed limit and CBP has to back off and turn over to CSO or State

One figure since amnesty has been being batted around is. In the Texas Falcurrias Sector which is about 80 miles wide, CBP is putting on the ground on average 3000 a week. They estimate they are catching 8 to 10 percent. Prior to amnesty traffic was slowing down and mainly drugs were fare of the day. Now the drugs are slipping thru


45 posted on 05/18/2013 5:22:56 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Arrowhead1952

That kind of attitude that they have in Austin...and that some of our misguided government respresentatives...have is so blatantly racist that I don’t see how we, as another race, couldn’t sue their butts on that account!

Of course your neighbors feel like you do. They ARE Americans, and they abided by the rules and have made a REAL life for themselves here in Texas. I have friends who have done the same.

Abide by the law or leave and come back within the guidelines set out...or be deported by law. I’m tired of feeling like I live in a third-world country whenever I go to the mall!!


46 posted on 05/18/2013 7:25:58 AM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: LUV W

Our neighbors (Sandra and Mark) actually left Ca. because as she put it, “It was turning into Mexico” about 12 years ago. They bought a new house, boat, SUV for him, put in a pool and had money left over for their grandkids college.


47 posted on 05/18/2013 7:34:29 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

They sound like good neighbors! God bless ‘em for “seeing the light” and coming to Texas! :)

I believe that they could get all that from selling their home in CA. I have seen homes like mine, which isn’t very big, sell for $500,000 there. It’s crazy.


48 posted on 05/18/2013 7:54:54 AM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: SeminoleCounty
he forced young girls to take an STD vaccine

Name one.

49 posted on 05/18/2013 8:48:06 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Grams A
Maybe we could just clone Abbott and Senator Cruz while we were at it.

Bingo! We have a Winner! Both of them are absolutely the top of the crop of POLs.

50 posted on 05/18/2013 6:25:09 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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