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Acting IRS head apologizes, blames 'foolish mistakes' for targeting of conservative groups
NBC News ^ | 5/17/13 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 05/18/2013 5:03:32 AM PDT by Libloather

The outgoing head of the IRS disputed Republicans’ suspicions that the tax-collecting agency’s targeting of conservatives was motivated by partisanship at the first congressional hearing on the scandal.

**SNIP**

“I do not believe that partisanship motivated the practices of the people described in the IG report,” Miller said. “I think that what happened here was that foolish mistakes were made by people who were trying to be efficient in their work.”

GOP lawmakers also repeatedly sought to ferret out any information as to whether Miller had talked with White House officials about the targeting of conservatives, or – more ominously – had shared confidential tax information with the administration. (The implication of that line of questioning involved last year’s presidential election, when Republican nominee Mitt Romney’s own tax practices became an issue in the election.)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conservative; groups; irs; mistakes
Why didn't Nixon think of this?
1 posted on 05/18/2013 5:03:32 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Did these same hard working, dedicated civil servants make the same foolish mistakes when they processed liberal groups?

Meanwhile, DHS keeps getting ready to fight a war......


2 posted on 05/18/2013 5:09:36 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Libloather
... foolish mistakes ... trying to be efficient ...

B. S.

No mistakes were made, they were trying to be as inefficient as possible to harass political opponents.

3 posted on 05/18/2013 5:11:40 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Libloather

They couldn’t have found a more greasy, slimey disgusting looking scapegoat for this. He reminds me of that character on MAD TV that had the same curly hair, an older fatter guy, but damned near looked the same.

My guess is that the Administration told him to get his ass up there before that committee and make them fume. In the end, they’ll get his ass, and it will likely stop there - just like Holder and Obama want.


4 posted on 05/18/2013 5:13:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Libloather

There’s going to be an epidemic of people falling on their sword.

Zer0, aka Beezlebub, il Douche, pres. is so disengaged with the day to day running of the government that ‘plausible deniability ‘ will be easy.


5 posted on 05/18/2013 5:15:14 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Libloather; All
'Mistakes' implies lack of intentionality.

The DemoRats were quite methodical in their intimidating bullying for over three years.

IOW, they were quite accomplished and competent at the communication compliance level in fulfilling what their superiors ordered them to do. Wasn't simply malfeasance and incompetence; it was criminally crafty.

The DemoRats continue to think America is stupid, and is making an appeal to its bleeding heart. Which is always what progressives do. They appeal to a worldview of sentimentalism and attempt to play upon others' emotions, always pitting somebody vs. somebody else.

6 posted on 05/18/2013 5:15:26 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Libloather

Start boiling the tar


7 posted on 05/18/2013 5:15:38 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: maine yankee

Just saw CBS’s Saturday morning “news” program...the “Director of CBS News” was asked by a “reporter” if the IRS situation has legs...he said...likely not...”clearly the White House is not involved”.

So, we can all rest easy now...CBS says there’s nothing there...and by the way “the GOP should not overreach”.


8 posted on 05/18/2013 5:17:48 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: Libloather
Why didn't Nixon think of this?

"Foolish mistakes"

Yes, the perfect lefty excuse. Just a regular guy, trying to do his job, and BAM, you make a foolish mistake. It could happen to anyone. Even YOU!

Aw, that's OK. Don't feel bad! ANYONE can make a foolish mistake or two. Even such famous people as Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Hitler made foolish mistakes.

9 posted on 05/18/2013 5:18:08 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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So if it WASN’T partisan, where are all of the groups called ILoveBarakObama, and Citizens for Peace and Justice that got scrutinized the same way?

And if there were, we’d be hearing about it 24/7.


10 posted on 05/18/2013 5:19:05 AM PDT by jaybee
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To: Gaffer

He actually wasn’t in charge of the IRS or that department when this was happening. Ingraham, who’s been kicked upstairs to manage Bambi’s death plan, is the one who should be grilled because she was in charge of the department.


11 posted on 05/18/2013 5:19:11 AM PDT by livius
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To: Libloather

“Why didn’t Nixon think of this?”

As Cong. Kelly (R-PA) was saying yesterday,

Same reason anyone being audited by the IRS doesn’t think of it - it doesn’t work.


12 posted on 05/18/2013 5:19:40 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Libloather

Foolish mistake = treacherous assault

The acts were first degree election tampering

That must be a capital crime.

Indict try convict execute.......... now!

After the guilty are quickly gone, history can spend the next hundred years sorting it out


13 posted on 05/18/2013 5:21:02 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: maine yankee
“I do not believe that partisanship motivated the practices of the people described in the IG report,” Miller said.

From the "How to Make 'Foolish Mistakes' Handbook":

Rule 1 - When planning your foolish mistakes, make sure you are NOT partisan. Rather than party lines, base your mistake based upon IDEOLOGY.

14 posted on 05/18/2013 5:22:57 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: BitWielder1
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15 posted on 05/18/2013 5:24:35 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Gaffer

I watched probably thirty minutes of the questions directed at the guy. Having worked around the government, I’d say that he was a $40-a-word manager. He’s just there because he had the right degree from some ivy league college.

He has zero regard for ethics. I can’t say that he showed any remarkable common sense. And as for managing people....I’d say that he’d do OK at some Piggly Wiggly, but I wouldn’t put him in charge of a real business as an executive.

The one question I would have thrown at him...when you realized this mess last summer (June 2012)...what immediate actions did you take to fix the matter? It appears to me that he just said ‘hmmm, let’s just leave this for the next idiot’. It appears that he did nothing, and the same mess is sitting there today. Personally, I’d also bring in the HR folks who hired all these incompetent folks in the first place....and fire fifty percent of them at random. You folks recruited losers, and continued to do it on a yearly basis.

The last organization that ought to run the health care finance side....is the IRS. I’d hand it over to the National Park Service....before I’d give it to these folks.


16 posted on 05/18/2013 5:25:33 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Libloather; All
What people don't realize is that the IRS rigged the election of 2012 for Obama and the democrats/socialists in the Senate.
Nixon didn't sick the IRS on good Americans who merely wanted to participate in the election. Obama did.Nixon didn't order the IRS to rig the election for him. Obama did.

The IRS made many conservative groups disband so that they couldn't do get out the vote . The IRS stole the election. but the media wants to make it seem like it was just low level employees targeting a few conservative groups. no it was intimidating groups with the threat of perjury to make them disband, many of them in battleground states with the goal of rigging the election for Obama and many democrats/socialists congressmen.

The IRS also waited to approve tax exempt status for many groups until after the election. they couldn't function as they didn't want to pay taxes on donations

Impeach Obama

Obama’s IRS targeted conservative groups to throw the election to Obama and democrats . It wasn't just prejudice but a plan a goal to rig the election for Obama . Obama knew as that is coming out.It lied about that and to my mind Obama planned the IRS rigging the election , who benefited from the IRS targeting tea party groups especially in battle ground states during the election? Democrats see us , middle America ,as the enemy. democrats want to enslave us middle America, average conservatives like us who see a growing government and are worried. We are Americans. All we want to do is live our lives the way we want to and because we are for a smaller government then they demonize us

17 posted on 05/18/2013 5:27:18 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: SampleMan

Everybody’s to do list

Sharpen the pitchfork
Oil up the torches
Limber up the dogs
Boil the tar
Pluck some chickens


18 posted on 05/18/2013 5:28:14 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: livius

I agree, but he is the more hateable villan here. The other one looks like an old-maid school teacher. He’s a dipsh!t and the right man for the job of deflecting.


19 posted on 05/18/2013 5:28:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: livius

Sarah Hall Ingram was in charge of tax-exempt organizations under Douglas Shulman. Her successor is Joseph Grant.

Douglas Shulman, a Bush appointee, was head of the IRS and was succeeded by Steven Miller. Steven Miller promoted Ingram to head Obamacare.


20 posted on 05/18/2013 5:33:01 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: livius; All

What people don’t realize is that the IRS rigged the election of 2012 for Obama and the democrats/socialists in the Senate.

The IRS made many conservative groups disband so that they couldn’t do get out the vote . The IRS stole the election. but the media wants to make it seem like it was just low level employees targeting a few conservative groups. no it was intimidating groups with the threat of perjury to make them disband, many of them in battleground states with the goal of rigging the election for Obama and many democrats/socialists congressmen.

The IRS also waited to approve tax exempt status for many groups until after the election. they couldn’t function as they didn’t want to pay taxes on donations


21 posted on 05/18/2013 5:37:58 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Libloather

The next time you have to appear at an IRS audit, try apologize for YOUR ‘foolish mistakes’ and see what that will getcha’.


22 posted on 05/18/2013 5:42:11 AM PDT by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: Libloather
Excellent article on the IRS scandal from American Thinker

pretty much shreds this arrogant pus talking points

The IRS Scandal -- a Basic Primer

23 posted on 05/18/2013 5:44:31 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: jaybee
Indeed. Here's CBS's best, and hilariously inept, transparent attempt to pretend that it went both ways:

Headline: "IRS targeting scandal: Liberal organizations are angry, too"

The description of and reason for this "anger"? Only these two sentences can in any way be offered as support: "When Jeff Cohen's left-leaning Action for a Progressive Future applied for an IRS tax exemption, the process was too long and too slow, he says. But it was much easier for him than it was for tea party groups."

When Jeff Cohen's left-leaning Action for a Progressive Future applied for an IRS tax exemption, the process was too long and too slow, he says. But it was much easier for him than it was for tea party groups.

24 posted on 05/18/2013 5:47:53 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Libloather

25 posted on 05/18/2013 5:49:13 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: Libloather

I hope the committee quickly lets it be known that now is the time to turn “state’s evidence”, because there will be prison for those that don’t.

That’s the neat thing about rats; they will turn on each other at the first indication of personal risk.


26 posted on 05/18/2013 5:50:07 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Libloather; All

PSYOPS - introducing/programming the populace to the totalitarians who will enforce (FORCED) totalitariancare.

TREASON - “acting”/appointed/entrenched unaccountable bureaucrats (socialists) elevating to TOTALITARIAN tactics for the powers that be at their whim.

DISMANTLE the IRS.

TREASON - continuous, PRE-MEDITATED, AGENDA-DRIVEN, in-your-face, media-complicit, AGENCY-ABETTED, REPRESENTATIVE-DIRECTED, ongoing...

DEPOPULATE totalitarians from the body politic. DISMANTLE their system.

DISMANTLE totalitariancare. Plunder & Death.

Totalitariancare and the IRS go together like a murder scene and a suspect.

Aid, comfort, paychecks, bonuses, pensions, perks to domestic enemies never defined or envisioned by the founders.

How to Identify Legal Plunder

But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.

Then abolish this law without delay, for it is not only an evil itself, but also it is a fertile source for further evils because it invites reprisals. If such a law — which may be an isolated case — is not abolished immediately, it will spread, multiply, and develop into a system.

The Law Defends Plunder

But it does not always do this. Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Thus the beneficiaries are spared the shame, danger, and scruple which their acts would otherwise involve. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons, and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim — when he defends himself — as a criminal. In short, there is a legal plunder...

This legal plunder may be only an isolated stain among the legislative measures of the people. If so, it is best to wipe it out with a minimum of speeches and denunciations — and in spite of the uproar of the vested interests.

Socialism Is Legal Plunder

http://www.usdebtclock.org

live - free - republic

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Alter it.


27 posted on 05/18/2013 5:53:39 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Libloather

MISTAKE?!!!!!

When we make a mistake we get a do-not-ignore letter from these gestapo agents!

Bad customer service!!!!!?
Bad customer service is when the checkout clerk at your local store doesn’t know the price of an item.


28 posted on 05/18/2013 5:54:37 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: kjo

Only the DNC is allowed to overreach like the so called Chaney scandal.

Pray for America to Wake Up


29 posted on 05/18/2013 5:55:50 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: Libloather

Why don’t the Tea Parties file Civil Rights law suits. In my mind there is a clear violation of civil rights. Civil Rights suits have a provision where the government pay for the costs.


30 posted on 05/18/2013 5:58:59 AM PDT by old white guy
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To: Libloather

This perfectly illustrates the absolute contempt these miserable bureaucrats have for the American taxpayer.

They truly think we are stupid.


32 posted on 05/18/2013 5:59:48 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Democrat_media

Post of the week!


33 posted on 05/18/2013 6:01:35 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: old white guy

Law suits accomplish nothing. The crime had it’s unovertunable result. The election was won. Nothing can be done to change that result.

At a minimum, there must be massive prosecution and imprisonment and if at all possible executions and death.

The Presidency must be destroyed and all associated must be impoverished

The crimes of treacherous tyranny have no penalty that is too great


34 posted on 05/18/2013 6:03:22 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Libloather

As Bill Clinton said when his White House was caught with 408 personal FBI files: “It was just an innocent bureaucratic snafu.”


35 posted on 05/18/2013 6:12:15 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: jjotto

Shulman was a Dem and had been a big activist under Clinton. Bush just about knocked himself out trying to be “bipartisan” and it got him nowhere. He thought appointing a Dem to a (theoretically) apolitical position would show his good will. To them, it showed his weakness.


36 posted on 05/18/2013 6:27:30 AM PDT by livius
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To: Gaffer

Well, that’s true, from the IRS’ point of view, he’s a better deflecter. But the GOP should insist on getting the people who were actually involved in both the practice itself and in the cover-up of it after the IG report.


37 posted on 05/18/2013 6:28:36 AM PDT by livius
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To: Libloather

The Ruling Class will do what it always does: re-arrange the deck chairs. This guy will resign and end up in another cushy government job, and some other DB will take his place. Nobody will go to jail, or suffer any real consequences at all. There will be some speeches full of feigned outrage, and that will be the end of it. It will go on until a few million citizens show up in D.C. with guns and rope and clean out that rat’s nest.


38 posted on 05/18/2013 6:30:32 AM PDT by EricT. (Another Muslim terrorist. Who saw that coming?)
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To: jaybee

I scrounged around a little for “irs scandal liberal”. The bottom line: Indeed, any suggestion or even a thought that liberal groups were “targeted” in any way comparable to Tea Party groups is so laughably insane that you should have your own MSNBC show.

Here are the very best, and so far, the only, examples that the battiest of moonbats have managed to come up with:

“Emerge America, a group which helps Democratic women seeking elected office, said it lost it tax-exempt status last October. The IRS invoked the “private benefit doctrine” barring 501(c)(4) status for any group promoting a candidate or political party.”

“In June the IRS said it denied 501(c)(4) tax-exemption for an unnamed political group also under the private benefit doctrine. The IRS is barred by law from disclosing the group’s name and the group has not publicly identified itself. The group had one objective: to serve the political goals of its founder, the IRS said.”

http://www.politicususa.com/gop-scandal-falls-irs-targeted-liberals-2012.html

“Progress Texas, another of the organizations, faced the same lines of questioning as the Tea Party groups from the same IRS office that issued letters to the Republican-friendly applicants.” (BTW good luck trying to find out what “Progress Texas” is or does from any article anywhere.)

(and a little more on “Emerge America”: “In early 2011, the IRS denied the tax-exempt status of an affiliate of the San Francisco-based Emerge America, which trains Democratic women to run for office. The agency said it was disqualified because the group’s activities were “conducted primarily for the benefit of a political party and a private group of individuals, rather than the community as a whole.” “)

“A third group, Clean Elections Texas, which supports public funding of campaigns, also received IRS inquiries.”

(We all know that “Clean Elections” would be an obvious indicator that it’s a far-left organization, now don’t we. — jiggyboy)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-15/irs-sent-same-letter-to-democrats-that-fed-tea-party-row.html?alcmpid=politics

So the entire universe of “targetws liberal organizations” seems to be these four. Two of them appear to have been properly denied as being front organizations for electing specific individuals, and one had a name more typical of a Tea-Party-like organization.


39 posted on 05/18/2013 6:30:44 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: livius

Or maybe the Rove White House didn’t object to persecuting actual conservatives.


40 posted on 05/18/2013 6:34:11 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: livius

I agree.. this goes on up to Geitner at a minimum, Obama in the ultimate. He knew.


41 posted on 05/18/2013 6:35:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Libloather

“Foolish mistakes.” “Bad customer service.”

Result: The person responsible (Ms. Lerner) is given a bonus and a promotion; she’s now leader of the Gestapo who will enforce ObamaCare.


42 posted on 05/18/2013 6:51:53 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: rawcatslyentist
It's always those darned Rogue Agents, trying to make our Dear Leader look bad!


43 posted on 05/18/2013 7:05:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: OrioleFan

yep.. I made a “foolish mistake” yesterday and took a left turn instead of a right turn, while driving to work.. Yep, it’s that kind of mistake.


44 posted on 05/18/2013 7:49:24 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: headstamp 2

Thanks


45 posted on 05/30/2013 3:44:18 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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