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Japan Assault Fleet Arrives at Pearl Harborů Just For Practice
Times ^ | May 17, 2013 | Kirk Spitzer

Posted on 05/18/2013 12:54:06 PM PDT by JerseyanExile

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Japan Maritime Self Defense Force warships JS Atago, foreground, and JS Shimokita, at Pearl Harbor naval base, Hawaii. The superstructure of a third Japanese warship, the helicopter carrier JS Hyuga, can be seen at right. On the deck of Shimokita are ground vehicles and helicopters – shrink-wrapped to protect against salt air -- that will take part in major amphibious warfare training in southern California.

Warships from Japan’s Maritime Self Defense Force have making stops at the American naval base at Pearl Harbor for more than two decades. But it’s going to seem strange, indeed, when Japanese ground troops clamor aboard this weekend.

Three of the newest and largest ships in the JMSDF arrived at Pearl Harbor on Thursday. Several-hundred ground troops from Japan’s Western Army Infantry Regiment will link up with the ships after flying in from bases in Kyushu. The flotilla will continue on to southern California, where the troops will take part in several weeks of amphibious warfare training with U.S. Marines.

Altogether, it represents one of the most ambitious military exercises of Japan’s post-war era.

Japanese troops have trained with Marines for several years, but have never operated from their own warships. The JMSDF, though highly capable, does not have any ships specifically designed to carry ground forces or to launch or support troops ashore.

Years of debate over whether to develop amphibious warfare capability ended in 2010 when China began to aggressively press ownership claims on Japan’s remote Senkaku Islands, which China calls Diaoyu. Japan has several thousand small and potentially vulnerable islands and rocky outcroppings that stretch some 700 miles southwest from Japan’s home islands.

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.time.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; Russia; US: Hawaii; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hawaii; japan; russia; waronterror
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1 posted on 05/18/2013 12:54:06 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

What could possibly go wrong? ;)


2 posted on 05/18/2013 12:54:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JerseyanExile

Out of respect for our dead, that area should be ‘off limits’ to Japan.. Forever.


3 posted on 05/18/2013 12:57:24 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: dfwgator

What could possibly go wrong? ;)


Nothing will go wrong. They are very capable.


4 posted on 05/18/2013 12:58:11 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: JerseyanExile
IJN Hyuga


5 posted on 05/18/2013 1:01:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: JerseyanExile
IJN Atago


6 posted on 05/18/2013 1:02:56 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
It seems sacrilegious to have Japanese warships over the sleeping dead in that place. We really have lost our souls, haven't we?
7 posted on 05/18/2013 1:03:47 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: JerseyanExile
"Japan Assault Fleet Arrives at Pearl Harbor… Just For Practice"

There's a fleet that's going to assault Japan? Wow...to which country does it belong? When is the attack going to take place? Oh...I get it. A Japanese assault fleet arrived at Pearl. More lazy-ass headline writing from our so-called "professional journalism" corps.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

8 posted on 05/18/2013 1:05:23 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: JerseyanExile

BTW I noticed they’ve dropped the JMSDF in favor of JS. More evidence Japan is finally entering the post-post war era.


9 posted on 05/18/2013 1:05:33 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I can understand the sentiment. But these are not the same people who attacked America. Should we hold with Americans forever responsible for slavery?

I know it’s a touchy subject. We should never forget. But likewise, it serves no purpose to ‘ban’ or continue to blame people who had nothing to do with it, nor share the beliefs of those who did.

Asbestos on.


10 posted on 05/18/2013 1:12:51 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Should we hold with Americans forever responsible for slavery?

Well, if you ask the NAACP, the black caucus, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Sheila Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, etc. the answer is a resounding YES!

Fu@k them and the horse they rode in on.

5.56mm

11 posted on 05/18/2013 1:18:52 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Norm Lenhart

I disagree. The Japanese Army is an institution, not a person. And it’s not about them anyway, it’s about the fallen. Honor the fallen, and their families are still alive.


12 posted on 05/18/2013 1:20:11 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: M Kehoe

Actually I’d much rather void the bladder on them than speak to them in any capacity. Unless they were on fire. Then I’d hold it and let them burn.


13 posted on 05/18/2013 1:21:14 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: JerseyanExile

Who the hell dreamed this up?? Disgraceful!


14 posted on 05/18/2013 1:23:07 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

But it’s not the same army nor the same institution. We dissolved both a while back. My White/slavery comment stands. If we hold these people forever responsible and not ourselves, that’s situational ethics...Liberalism.


15 posted on 05/18/2013 1:23:31 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I have no more problem with having Japanese Naval ships anchoring in Pearl Harbor than I do British Army personnel visiting the Pentagon.


16 posted on 05/18/2013 1:24:43 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Norm Lenhart
Have to agree with you.

I have watched Japanese ships come into Pearl from right on the water on Ford Island. Those ships have the rails lined with sailors perfectly turned out. You can sense their respect as they pass by.

17 posted on 05/18/2013 1:25:04 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: JerseyanExile
Here are the Senkaku Islands, owned by Japan, claimed by both China and Taiwan:

Here is a 19,000 ton Japanese Kayuga class helicopter carrier (right), compared to US Nimitz class carrier (Washington on left) and (below) a Wasp class Amphibious Assault Ship (on right):


18 posted on 05/18/2013 1:27:13 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: dfwgator
What could possibly go wrong? ;)

We could get dragged into WWIII. China, Japan, Taiwan, the Phillipines, and North and South Korea are preparing for a war in the not too distant future. I would rather we stay out of it. If they bleed themselves dry and we stay out, we will have another American century. I don't see any advantage to get into it.

19 posted on 05/18/2013 1:29:29 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

We’re already dragged in...they’re called Treaties and/or alliances.


20 posted on 05/18/2013 1:33:31 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Apples and oranges


21 posted on 05/18/2013 1:36:51 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost; Chainmail; Norm Lenhart; Sacajaweau
GWG: "Out of respect for our dead, that area should be ‘off limits’ to Japan.. Forever."

Japanese are now our friends, and will be, certainly, for as long as China is a growing threat -- in other words, for all practical purposes: forever.

Our real problem with Japan is that they have for decades benefited from America's military shield, without necessarily contributing a fair share for it.

I think a reasonable Japanese military capability -- proportional to the rising threat from China -- should be welcomed.
As should their sailors on shore leave in our ports! ;-)

22 posted on 05/18/2013 1:40:18 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Out of respect for our war dead, we should make sure that Japan never turns, again, from being an ally to being an enemy.

The Progressive sponsored Kellog-Briand Pact turned out to be an inducement to Japan to invade and conquer China, then invade Indonesia for much needed oil to run their new empire.

Some articles on the net claim that treaty is still in effect ~ somewhere ~ we probably ought to dispose of it as the trash it really was.

23 posted on 05/18/2013 1:43:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Exactly.
Unless you personally suffered under the Japanese, bitching and moaning about our STRATEGIC PARTNERS some SEVENTY YEARS later is just childish and stupid.

They’re not performing practice runs against The USS Arizona National Monument. They’re visiting as invited guests and STRATEGIC PARTNERS.

I worked along-side my German partner soldiers and units for five years, and never felt a bit of resentment against them.

It’s called MATURITY.
Something lacking among too many posting here.


24 posted on 05/18/2013 1:46:15 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Norm Lenhart

I agree. I have to admit my gut winced when I read the headline, but on reflection I think differently. For what they did, Japan got it’s ass well and truly kicked— rightfully so. I think it’s fair to say that as a nation they did learn the needful lesson and they’ve grown in the meantime into a strong ally. Banning their ships from Pearl Harbor today might even be said to trivialize our total victory and their unconditional surrender. They started it and we ended it once and for all time. It’s over. That ending was bought and paid for— dearly so. Carrying that grudge would suggest that it’s not really over.

My .02


25 posted on 05/18/2013 1:47:59 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Well put.


26 posted on 05/18/2013 1:49:02 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: BroJoeK

I think that’s our own fault. We pretty much forced pacifism on them so we can’t have it both ways. We wanted a docile Japan and we got it...at least on the surface. And we held them back militarily. So their limited participation in mil.def is our own doing.

That said, I understand why we did. But it is what it is.


27 posted on 05/18/2013 1:50:02 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Should we hold with Americans forever responsible for slavery?”

Only if we hold every country and civilization in history responsible for their slavery. How about you stop propagating the “evil America” propaganda?


28 posted on 05/18/2013 1:53:21 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve

How about you reread what I wrote and get the point?

how you get evil America out of a simple fact pf logic is beyond me.


29 posted on 05/18/2013 1:55:17 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Born to Conserve

Slavery is a stain on our history.
Acknowleging it is not “evil America” propaganda.


30 posted on 05/18/2013 1:56:58 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: wku man
There's a fleet that's going to assault Japan?

I believe it is just two ships: The Bob Barker, and the Sea Shepherd.

31 posted on 05/18/2013 2:02:20 PM PDT by sportutegrl (PS: Bet on Japan)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I am reminded of a character in the Fallout 3 videogame. A hyperpatriot who thinks thinks that any comment not a glowing endorsement of anything we ever did is treason.


32 posted on 05/18/2013 2:03:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: JerseyanExile

The Japanese have sent their military over to protect all the condos owned by Japanese citizens from being expropriated by the US government! :-)


33 posted on 05/18/2013 2:09:38 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

thank you


34 posted on 05/18/2013 2:14:43 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Norm Lenhart

My father’s introduction to the Japanese was at the receiving end of a Kamikaze attack on the USS Maryland off the coast of Okinawa. He was manning a gun emplacement at the base of the #3 main turret when one flew just over his head to impact on the top of that turret, killing a dozen brave Americans.

The first impression was further driven home on the beaches and jungles of Okinawa.

After the war he had several deployments to the Japanese homeland.

The Japanese earned his respect as tough and motivated soldiers, and as industrious and friendly civilians.

He respected and liked them to his dying day.


35 posted on 05/18/2013 2:27:02 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: JerseyanExile
The Japs learned their lesson after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

They're one of our best allies Now.

If my uncle who fought at Okinawa got over it so can you all.

(rolls eyes)

36 posted on 05/18/2013 2:30:33 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Jeff Head

ping


37 posted on 05/18/2013 2:36:14 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: wku man
Warships from Japan’s Maritime Self Defense Force have making stops at the American naval base

Catch the other error? I'm no Engish Major but even I thought it sounded odd.

Guesss this journ-o-list was too busy washing the Obama ass aftertaste out of his/her mouth...
38 posted on 05/18/2013 2:41:24 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: skeeter
I noticed they’ve dropped the JMSDF in favor of JS.

Two different animals. JMSDF refers to the organization itself, like USN. JS (Japanese Ship) is analogous to USS or HMS in a ship's name. I see this is now the usage on US Navy web sites but JMSDF official websites in English simply refer to ships by type (minesweeper Chichijima, escort vessel Teruzuki, etc.)

When this changed I don't know, but I have a ball cap I got in 2006 on my last deployment from the oiler Tokiwa that says "JDS TOKIWA AOE 423", the JDS being Japanese Defense Ship.

39 posted on 05/18/2013 2:53:00 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: RedMonqey

If post 38 thought the “Urinalist” was incompetent, how ‘bout this whopper: “when Japanese ground troops clamor aboard... “

“Clamor aboard” ??? ?


40 posted on 05/18/2013 2:53:20 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: BroJoeK

They should spend more money on their defense. However, both Germany and Japan need to feel the leather from an American shoe on their necks from time to time. Just to keep their ambitions in check.


41 posted on 05/18/2013 2:54:28 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Sacajaweau

Didn’t the British Army burn Washington?


42 posted on 05/18/2013 3:11:58 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: GladesGuru

I must admit I had to look that one up.

It’s “clamber” aboard, not clamor.

From my search results, this “journalist” ain’t alone...


43 posted on 05/18/2013 3:15:38 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: JerseyanExile

Would a B29 be allowed on display in that “peace” square in Hiroshima?


44 posted on 05/18/2013 3:16:52 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Q: The worst president in US history?)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

The Japanese need our help—My bet they will be fighting a naval war with China in the future. The Chinese want to crush Japan at sea and Take Okinawa Island. They are going to need some bigger ships!


45 posted on 05/18/2013 3:17:03 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: sportutegrl
I believe it is just two ships: The Bob Barker, and the Sea Shepherd.

Led by Admiral Paul Watson.

(Yeah I watch "Whale Wars".)

It's funny watching these F$%@#-ups and its better than Professional "Wrasslin" because it's real.
46 posted on 05/18/2013 3:21:52 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: RedMonqey

Sorta. Sea Shepard/Watson is a scripted entity. Look up some of the Seal Clubbing fantasies he/GreenPeace committed to film. Pure scripted ‘reality’. With stuffed seals.

Pro Wrasslin at least requires talented acrobat/gymnasts and that can’t easily be faked.


47 posted on 05/18/2013 3:30:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Pure scripted ‘reality’.

What it is is pure propaganda, poorly performed propaganda.

It's like a real life "Gilligan's Island"

Paul Watson is such a pathological liar that even "Green Peace" found his antics irresponsible.

If what is shown is thought as acceptable footage, I would love to see what was left on the editing room floor

Every season they go on a "campaign" to "end whaling forever" and every season the Japs bring home hundreds of whales.

Given their seamanship, it's a wonder somebody hasn't been seriosly maimed or killed
48 posted on 05/18/2013 3:45:50 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Norm Lenhart
Pure scripted ‘reality’.

What it is is pure propaganda, poorly performed propaganda.

It's like a real life "Gilligan's Island"

Paul Watson is such a pathological liar that even "Green Peace" found his antics irresponsible.

If what is shown is thought as acceptable footage, I would love to see what was left on the editing room floor

Every season they go on a "campaign" to "end whaling forever" and every season the Japs bring home hundreds of whales.

Given their seamanship, it's a wonder somebody hasn't been seriosly maimed or killed
49 posted on 05/18/2013 3:46:36 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: RedMonqey

Oh I’d bet many have. They just don’t talk about it. Dave Foreman of Earth First is another trainwreck eco crusader that needs to see the inside of Florence.

Last I heard Sierra is still trying to live down their association to his rasicalism. Not that there is a difference behind the scenes. They funded him for decades.


50 posted on 05/18/2013 3:51:52 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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