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Maine State Police Lieutenant Not Disciplined After Gun Went Off Inside
Bangor Daily News ^ | May 18, 2013 | Dawn Gagnon

Posted on 05/18/2013 2:41:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway

An investigation by a division of the Maine State Police was unable to determine why a lieutenant’s firearm accidentally discharged during a computer training session.

Lt. Shawn Currie, commander of the state police commercial vehicle enforcement division, was not disciplined after the Feb. 27 incident.

Currie was attending the training at the agency’s former headquarters at 36 Hospital St. when his gun belt reportedly rode up, according to a synopsis of the incident that the Bangor Daily News obtained Friday after submitting a request under the Freedom of Access Act.

The gun belt “was causing discomfort to his hip so he pushed down on the back of the grip with an open palm after extending his right leg out in front of him. He stated that as he pushed on the back of the grip, his handgun discharged,” Maj. Gary Wright of Maine State Police Operations wrote in his incident review report.

While no one was injured, the discharged round of ammunition ricocheted off the floor and struck Trooper Shane Northrup, who also was attending the training session, in the back of the leg, Wright wrote. Currie suffered a small powder burn on his right leg from the discharge and Northrup had a small red mark on his right leg from the ricochet, he noted.

Northrup removed the magazine from Currie’s firearm, an HK .45-caliber handgun, and then removed the gun from the retention holster it was secured in, the report states. Currie reported the incident to Motor Carrier Supervisor James Wright, who also was attending the training, and to Sgt. William Keith, the agency’s primary firearms instructor.

After a cursory safety inspection and function check, Currie’s gun and holster were secured in the state police armory and he was issued replacements. Currie was advised to prepare a memo documenting the incident, which he did, the report shows.

Extensive testing by Keith and Detective Robert Burns, firearms examiner at the state crime laboratory, indicated that neither the gun nor the holster were defective and that function testing on the gun “indicated that all safety features functioned properly and as intended,” according to Keith’s memo of the findings.

Keith also offered the following additional conclusions.

“Testing conducted could not recreate an unintentional discharge when utilizing the same variables that were present at the time of the incident,” he wrote. “Only when introducing an obstruction, ie. material into the trigger guard, were the testers able to cause the HK45 to discharge by pushing down on the back of the weapon while it was locked into the holster.”

Keith also noted that “the HK45 was not capable of firing without the trigger being drawn to the rear,” Wright reported.

In Keith’s report, which was attached to the incident review, Keith concluded that Currie’s description of the incident “was duplicated in the lab and the pistol was unable to be discharged.

“During testing, the pistol discharged only when removed from the holster and a foreign object (cloth, finger or strap) was introduced into and or through the trigger guard and the pistol was reinserted into the holster.”

Maine Department of Public Safety spokesman Stephen McCausland said the incident did not result in a change in policy for state troopers.

“The report was reviewed with Lt. Currie and discussed with him and he was apprised of the findings,” McCausland said Friday. “There was no disciplinary action.”


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To: Conserev1

certainly not in front of him!


21 posted on 05/18/2013 3:48:55 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: nickcarraway

Lt. Shawn Currie is part of the elitist’s sinister plot to shoot patriots in the foot. Watch your feet around Rambo Currie, FReepers.


22 posted on 05/18/2013 3:54:24 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Admin Moderator

I don’t like stupid & bad cops. Get over it or ban me.


23 posted on 05/18/2013 3:58:07 PM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: Admin Moderator

I hate clowns too.


24 posted on 05/18/2013 4:12:10 PM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: redreno

I don’t get it. WTF was the AM hounding you for?


25 posted on 05/18/2013 4:21:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Well, it’s their forum. So, they can complain or cry about anything they feel b*tth*rt about. However, As my FR home page states......I am a disobedient individualist. Habitual line crosser.


26 posted on 05/18/2013 4:28:24 PM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: redreno

K. But, my question relates to you being called out of the blue on this post.

You weren’t even on this post until the AM openly called you out.

Ain’t right.


27 posted on 05/18/2013 4:33:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: redreno

I hate clowns, too.

Have a fresh cookie.


28 posted on 05/18/2013 4:35:40 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Mark17

While no one was injured, the discharged round of ammunition ricocheted off the floor and struck Trooper Shane Northrup, who also was attending the training session, in the back of the leg, Wright wrote. Currie suffered a small powder burn on his right leg from the discharge and Northrup had a small red mark on his right leg from the ricochet, he noted.

What?


29 posted on 05/18/2013 4:46:21 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: nickcarraway

30 posted on 05/18/2013 4:48:34 PM PDT by abb
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To: RedMonqey

i’d bet the farm it was nothing like that japanese pistol.

h&k don’t make crap pistols. further they could not duplicate the error in testing his pistol.


31 posted on 05/18/2013 5:04:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Ok. You are in a police educational class. You have a chambered round because you need that split second advantage encase the bad guys surprise you. That chambered round will get you quite often. Morons.


32 posted on 05/18/2013 6:27:11 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

He must have felt threatened by his fellow cops.


33 posted on 05/18/2013 6:39:30 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: nickcarraway

First off, the article doesn’t contain enough information to judge other than armchair QB-ing. I won’t dispute that LEO are treated differently than civilians in these cases, but my drum-beat here is that there is never a discussion on holsters or holstering safety. A decent holster minimimzes accidents; a bad choice by CCW-holders, plus lack of awareness (read ‘complacency’), compounds the probability (not possibility) of an AD. It can happen to anyone. Shamefully we’re not all treated equally.

Related re ‘obstruction’:
http://pistol-training.com/archives/7094


34 posted on 05/19/2013 6:42:47 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Secret Agent Man
h&k don’t make crap pistols.

Didn't mean to imply they did.

Anyway most of the Japanese pistols were scrapped after the war and now they are very rare and somewhat of a desirable curio among gun collectors. Kinda like Edsels are today...
35 posted on 05/19/2013 8:06:19 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
You are in a police educational class. You have a chambered round because you need that split second advantage encase the bad guys surprise you.

A bad case of complacency. The “The gun just went off” syndrome. A common mistake among "professionals".

Another police instructor killed himself with an "empty" gun that he pointed at his own head while in a hostage training course in San Fransisco. IIRC

An “I thought the gun was unloaded” malady

36 posted on 05/19/2013 8:25:17 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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