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Harry Reid is Considering Rule Change to Block Filibuster
Townhall.com ^ | May 18, 2013 | Heather Ginsberg

Posted on 05/18/2013 4:14:30 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo

Meh. He’ll never do it. Fortunately, he’s nothing but hot air and as much of a threat as the squirrel that looks at you funny.


51 posted on 05/18/2013 5:03:55 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: jazusamo

They are so sure they’ll be in power... but won’t that will help the Republicans after the next election.

It’s all or nothing next election. There will be so much fraud and illegal voting it won’t be easy.


52 posted on 05/18/2013 5:04:15 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: RoosterRedux
welcome to ancient history.

Welcome to new Babylon.

53 posted on 05/18/2013 5:06:00 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Farmer Dean

you said....watching him go in the ground is going to be great....

I say....watching grass grow over him will be better...lol


54 posted on 05/18/2013 5:07:07 PM PDT by haircutter (,,,)
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To: Daffynition

ever time i tried they said i needed more pulsatilla vulgaris


55 posted on 05/18/2013 5:07:41 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Must be something big is coming up.

Or, it could just be more sabre-rattling from that crook.

Thanks jazusamo.


56 posted on 05/18/2013 5:08:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Daffynition

i couldn’t compete

gomphocarpus physocarpus is the ingredient in Reids perfume

and then there is lilyputin

ever time i tried they said i needed more pulsatilla vulgaris


57 posted on 05/18/2013 5:10:38 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Carry_Okie
I'm sorry. Did I insult you in some way? Why 34 Senators? If 0bama’s Gestapo keep all of the Republicans away from the Senate, it would only take 2 of 3 democrats “present” to ratify the treaty.
58 posted on 05/18/2013 5:11:03 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: bigheadfred
Wellllllllll...you're perfect....just the way you are. Keep it simple. Wear cardigans.


59 posted on 05/18/2013 5:15:39 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: Daffynition

wood ya have it any other way


60 posted on 05/18/2013 5:21:14 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: HenpeckedCon

Someone please explain to me how a UN treaty trumps the US constitution no matterr how many senators vote for it and the president signs it. Changing the constitution requiires a 2/3 vote of the states AND a 2/3 vote of congress.


61 posted on 05/18/2013 5:25:13 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: chris37

That depends on whether Cruz is Majority Leader...


62 posted on 05/18/2013 5:27:35 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: jazusamo
And how is Dingy Harry proposing to change a Senate rule when it requires 67 votes? Same way they jammed Obamacare down our throats - CHEAT.

How Many Votes to Change the Senate’s Rules

Senate rules require 67 votes to change the rules of the Senate. However, it’s actually quite possible for 50 Senators—if backed by the Vice President—to have elements of existing procedural deemed unconstitutional. The US court system neither will nor should rule on things like the constitutionality of a de facto supermajority rule. But this is precisely why you have a President of the Senate (i.e., a Vice President) and I think it would be perfectly plausible for Joe Biden to say that by specifying supermajority voting for certain purposes (treaties, veto overrides, constitutional amendments) the constitution is clearly assuming majority rule for other purposes. Then it would take a majority of Senators to back up Biden’s ruling. And low and behold, a return to majority rule.
63 posted on 05/18/2013 5:27:55 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: HenpeckedCon
I'm sorry. Did I insult you in some way?

You insulted the forum by arguing that there was nothing to worry about because of a threshold of 67 Senators.

Why 34 Senators?

Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the Constitution does specify "two thirds of the Senators present" for ratification of a treaty.

Two thirds of a minimum quorum is 34.

If 0bama’s Gestapo keep all of the Republicans away from the Senate, it would only take 2 of 3 democrats “present” to ratify the treaty.

Or if Dirty Harry holds the Senate in session and then secretly convenes 50 members of the Slave Party to show up at 3AM. He's not above that sort of thing you know.

64 posted on 05/18/2013 5:29:56 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: bigheadfred
No one else I'd rather have on my *rag-tag-team.*


65 posted on 05/18/2013 5:33:58 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: BobL

Well now that would be quite something, but I expect they GOP would stick with McConnell for some reason that I cannot possibly understand.

Cruz is an extremely impressive individual. As much as I like to hate on the GOP, I have nothing negative to say of him thus far.


66 posted on 05/18/2013 5:39:14 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: BobL
I LOVE IT!!! The Senate made a mess of Bush-43’s court appointments and many, many, other things - even though the Dems only had 43 votes. They simply filibustered EVERYTHING. Now they think it’s unfair - FINE!!! We will get power back, at least for a short time (until Amnesty ends it all for us). During that time, it sure would be nice to get people on to the courts with a majority vote.

Remember this? I have a long memory when it comes to the commie left and their takedown of America.

Editorial: Hypocrisy abounds on filibuster issue

May 18, 2005 Reid: THE RIGHT to extended debate is never more important than when one party controls Congress and the White House, and in these cases the filibuster serves as a check on power and preserves our limited government."

"Change in the Senate rules — that really, I think, would change the character of the Senate forever (and would be) simply majoritarian absolute power on either side (of Congress), and that's not what the Founders intended."
67 posted on 05/18/2013 5:40:01 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

I had the pleasure of voting for Cruz twice. The first time, I was told by the Republican Party to vote for someone else. But I was told by another party, whose first letter is “T” to vote for Cruz. Obviously I voted for Cruz...then again in November.

I cannot remember EVER seeing a newbie in either house of Congress shake things up to the extent that he has. He has the old farts screaming at him, because he “know his place”. He’s been there less than 5 months and he’s making them look like monkeys.


68 posted on 05/18/2013 5:53:58 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: Daffynition; jazusamo; null and void; SunkenCiv
Pig Headed but ultimately loyal...

dont try to sty me...

i have a plan...

reid...bama...all of them...wont stand a chance...

69 posted on 05/18/2013 5:54:03 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: jazusamo
a Democratic aide told the Post. "This would take away the right to filibuster on nominations... All executive branch and judicial nominations would be subject to majority votes. He would not do it on legislative items.”

Yeah, tell that to Miguel Estrada. They sang a much different tune about judicial nominees when W was President. But then again, if it weren't for double standards Liberals would have no standards at all.

70 posted on 05/18/2013 5:58:01 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: jazusamo

Do it Harry!

It will be a lot easier to undo Obamacare and other Obamations in 2015 after the Republicans take back the Senate.


71 posted on 05/18/2013 6:10:09 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: jazusamo

Too bad a recall vote can’t be mounted in Nevada to recall him.


72 posted on 05/18/2013 6:20:34 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: jazusamo

I have a nuke option for them...


73 posted on 05/18/2013 6:20:55 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: jazusamo; All
Is he desperate here? Follow me on this...

* We have an election in Massachuetts, could this quasi-Rino Seal Republican Win?
* Tangent to this, The Menedez story IMHO hasn't gone away, when does he get asked to leave for doing the nasty with 15 yr old Domincan Hookers.
* Tangent to that Lautenberg also from NJ is not that well, and could assume room temperature at any moment.

So is Dingy Harry looking at a swing of 3 not in his favor ( assuming Crispy Creme would appoint Republicans ) if we were to get lucky and run the table?

74 posted on 05/18/2013 6:27:58 PM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: rarestia

This is probably about amnesty. They want to ram amnesty through and dump it on the House. Hairy can let a few Dems off the plantation on that vote if he only needs 50 votes.

If Reid needs 60 votes for amnesty I believe he needs the gang GOP plus one more and all the Dems. Some of the Dems up for reelection won’t want to vote for amnesty right now.


75 posted on 05/18/2013 6:28:06 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: jazusamo

He wants gun confiscation, LOST, and total abdication of the US Constitution. Doing so by Congressional action probably gives the old made guy a hardon.


76 posted on 05/18/2013 6:33:23 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: taildragger
So is Dingy Harry looking at a swing of 3 not in his favor

Could be and if the truth keeps coming out about the Rats it could be more than 3.

77 posted on 05/18/2013 6:39:15 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: bigheadfred
I have a feeling your *plan* includes an ax.


78 posted on 05/18/2013 6:41:57 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: jazusamo

Three? ... If I could do it, I would be very tempted to call down 3 million volts on fithy Harry Reid, enemy of America.


79 posted on 05/18/2013 6:42:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Daffynition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YyOw6bWy8X8


80 posted on 05/18/2013 6:47:36 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: jazusamo

Always changing the rules to benefit themselves.


81 posted on 05/18/2013 6:53:46 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: jazusamo

Drive it like you stole it, Harry, and it sounds like you’ve had lots of insider help to steal the previous election...


82 posted on 05/18/2013 6:59:26 PM PDT by Son House (The Heath Care Recovery Never Gets Here, Like The Economic Recovery, Easily Predictable.)
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To: bigheadfred
Sh!t! I'm not putting you *in charge* of anything.


83 posted on 05/18/2013 7:02:51 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: Daffynition

LOL


84 posted on 05/18/2013 7:09:04 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: haircutter
good luck with that... grass will never grow there with all the people standing in line to wizz on it
85 posted on 05/18/2013 7:56:20 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: jazusamo

Immigration bill?


86 posted on 05/18/2013 7:58:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: jazusamo

Wait a gobdarn minute! What about the simmering saucer crapola stuff that chucky schumer was spouting?


87 posted on 05/18/2013 8:27:04 PM PDT by CardeadInKy ("The problem with Liberalism is that eventually you run out of other people's money" -Marg Thatcher)
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To: HenpeckedCon

That didn’t stop NAFTA, did it?


88 posted on 05/18/2013 8:39:27 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: jazusamo
...The FIRST Rule of Obama Club.....

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89 posted on 05/18/2013 8:44:06 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: jazusamo

What a far cry from Harry’s attitude in 2005.

It’s still on their own website too!

http://democrats.senate.gov/2005/05/18/reid-floor-speech-on-use-of-filibuster/

“The filibuster is far from a “procedural gimmick.” It is part of the fabric of this institution. It was well known in colonial legislatures, and it is an integral part of our country’s 217 years of history.” — Then Minority Leader Sen. Harry Reid, May 2005.


90 posted on 05/18/2013 11:21:44 PM PDT by CountryClassSF
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To: rarestia
Ratifying a treaty requires a 2/3 Senate vote, which is a higher threshhold than the 60 votes required to end a filibuster.
91 posted on 05/19/2013 6:23:24 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Daffynition

Seems to me that Reid doesn’t have control over the super majority requirements of the Constitution for Treaty approval. They have to get 67 votes to approve the treaty. I don’t see that happening.


92 posted on 05/19/2013 6:44:44 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: jazusamo

He is an evil, twisted little man obsessed with his own importance. What a shallow shell of a human being. *shudder*


93 posted on 05/19/2013 6:46:14 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If I had a dollar for every time I was distracted, I wish I had a puppy.)
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To: SatinDoll

yes I really think he is, maybe he has a reason for that!


94 posted on 05/19/2013 9:07:48 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: jazusamo
Fine, change the Senate rules now... this will be veryconvenient when the pendulum swings the other way.
95 posted on 05/19/2013 9:41:52 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: red irish

Sometimes BHO2 lets the truth slip out — like when he says that he is a Muslim Marxist. Maybe, just maybe, he’s telling the truth!


96 posted on 05/19/2013 1:48:22 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: chris37

“If the GOP retakes the senate, it’s first action will be to revert to the former rules on filibuster and allow the democrats to block them at every turn.”
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LOL Funny but, unfortunately, probably close to the truth if the McCain/Graham RINO wing of the party remains in control of the caucus.

The good thing is that with a handful more of Cruz types elected as reinforcements more robust leadership may be voted in to take over Senate leadership.


97 posted on 05/19/2013 4:52:25 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: onyx

So what will Harry Reid say if Republicans regain control of the Senate and they say no more filibusters because Sen. Reid said so.


98 posted on 05/19/2013 8:00:26 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: BobL

Going back to the Contract with America, the Democrats filibustered bills that a majority of the Democrats voted for including one that they filibustered for five days and then voted unanimously for.


99 posted on 05/19/2013 9:55:23 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Moore: Assault Weapons Ban Would’ve Been Voted On If Reid’s Grandchildren Were Killed In School
WNEW-FM / The Associated Press | March 20, 2013
Posted on 03/20/2013 4:25:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/2999061/posts


100 posted on 05/30/2013 7:20:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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