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Syria’s Bashar Al-Assad is Winning
The Daily Beast ^ | May 17, 2013 | Mike Giglio

Posted on 05/19/2013 7:53:38 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Despite President Obama’s assertion on Thursday that he reserves “the options of taking additional steps, both diplomatic and military,” foreign intervention in Syria seems a distant prospect, and that, along with a string of military successes, has fueled the perception that president Bashar al-Assad now has the upper hand in his country’s bloody civil war. As Republican Sen. John McCain bluntly put it this week: "Right now, Bashar al-Assad is winning."

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TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; pelosilovesassad; randpaullovesassad; russia; salafists; syria; waronterror

1 posted on 05/19/2013 7:53:38 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks MinorityRepublican.

Syrian regime’s position strengthens as world pushes for diplomatic solution
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3021290/posts

Assad: Syria transition talks are internal matter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3021148/posts


2 posted on 05/19/2013 7:58:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Only one thing to do then, organize all the beltway warriors into another Lincoln brigade and air drop them in to help the freedum fighters. I miss them already.


3 posted on 05/19/2013 7:58:36 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Someone explain to me why I should give a crap which of these two terrorists wins!!!


4 posted on 05/19/2013 8:05:01 AM PDT by ontap
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To: MinorityRepublican

Good. This means Al-qaeda ran out of fodder.


5 posted on 05/19/2013 8:06:16 AM PDT by struggle
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To: junta

Brilliant solution!


6 posted on 05/19/2013 8:11:37 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: MinorityRepublican; All

The scary thing about Syria is that the dictator is less likely to exterminate the non-Muslims than the insurgents


7 posted on 05/19/2013 8:12:08 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: ontap

Assad won’t kill all the Christians, the rebels will.


8 posted on 05/19/2013 8:12:20 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: SunkenCiv; MinorityRepublican

The LIV doesn’t know that Iran will not allow Syria to fall outside its sphere of influence.


9 posted on 05/19/2013 8:14:30 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Good, I want him to win. I may not like him much, but I’m sick of siding with terrorists that want to exterminate Christians.


10 posted on 05/19/2013 8:15:10 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

An Assad victory is likely best for us, but only after his military is crippled and the jihadists are exterminated.


11 posted on 05/19/2013 8:19:04 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Al-Assad knows two things:

1. Other arab countries such as Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc.. have all expressed to Obama that they do NOT want US Troops on the ground in Syria. They've seen how badly Obama's bungled the successes handed to him by the Bush Administration in Iraq and Afghanistan and turned both of them into complete catastrophe's.

2. Obama's nothing more than a paper tiger anyway. All he's good at (marginally) is giving teleprompter based speeches.

Al-Assad knows Obama doesn't have the stomach for opening up another war front, and if he did - Obama would bungle it so badly that it'd ultimately be a victory for Bashir Al-Assad.

In fact, any boots on the ground in Syria would only serve to be another rallying cry for every muslim terrorist group out there.

Al-Assad knows this. Every day he wakes up in Syria still in control is a stick in Obama's eye and you can bet Al-Assad knows this too.

12 posted on 05/19/2013 8:20:07 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Assad is abandoning his bid to crush the rebellion and concentrating instead on the war’s vital fronts—which may have sparked the recent surge in tactical gains.”

Now this is about to stick it to Turkey IN THE FACE, and I love it. Assad is basically going to let the Kurds have their own state, and with that, the Kurds in Turkey will have a base to operate from and will likely achieve their goal of carving out their area from Turkey (Kurdistan has parts of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran - and they want to be united - but none of those countries would let them unite).

I’m no fan of the Kurds, but I hate Turkey more...so this should get very interesting soon.


13 posted on 05/19/2013 8:22:53 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: SampleMan
An Assad victory is likely best for us, but only after his military is crippled and the jihadists are exterminated.

One of my doctors, a Christian from Syria whom I've known for a very long time now has family in Syria. He'd strongly disagree with you that a victory for Al-Assad is good for the United States, independent of whether or not the Syrian military is crippled and the jihadists are exterminated. There's seemingly no shortage of muslim extremists and jihadists that will flow into Syria along with Iranian and Russian provided weapons.

Jihadi's see Syria as a tipping point and Iran along with Russia see this as a proxy war against the United States' influence in the middle east.

14 posted on 05/19/2013 8:24:22 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: MinorityRepublican
Great. So Iran is beating the Moslem Brotherhood.

Why can't both sides lose?

15 posted on 05/19/2013 8:30:11 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: usconservative

So what are we missing - Assad has a history of treating Christians well...certainly by the standards in that part of the world. Does ANYONE really think they will be better off if the other side wins...or does he just wish that the whole civil war never happened.

I suspect the latter, but you can’t put the genie back in the bottle.


16 posted on 05/19/2013 8:31:52 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: All

Oh well. Maybe at least Syria can finally get Antioch back.


17 posted on 05/19/2013 8:32:42 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I am taking Assad and laying the points. Russia won’t let Syria fall.


18 posted on 05/19/2013 8:56:23 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

"Duh, Winning"

19 posted on 05/19/2013 8:58:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: freedomfiter2

Jihadis have flocked to Syria from all over the Muslim world, Europe and even the United States. The U.S. have supplied them with “humanitarian aid” including weapons from Libya. Yet this “unpopular” regime has held on for over two years. Assad does not want to share the fate of Qadaffi or Mubarak. If Assad goes the next target will be Lebanon. This is the bi-partisan plan for the Middle East. McCain (”They are my heroes”) and Graham are working with the administration to fundamentally transform the Muslim world.


20 posted on 05/19/2013 9:12:53 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: junta
Only one thing to do then, organize all the beltway warriors into another Lincoln brigade and air drop them in to help the freedum fighters. I miss them already. i like this. mcvain could be the commander.
21 posted on 05/19/2013 9:18:56 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government shoud fear us.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Al-Assad could help change his image if he’d tell everyone what was in those planes and trucks Sadam sent to Syria.


22 posted on 05/19/2013 9:30:27 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: MinorityRepublican

Better the Butcher in power than the Butchers of al-Qaeda seizing power. It’s too bad those Muzzie maggots will not fight to the last man leaving exactly one Syrian Muzzie left.


23 posted on 05/19/2013 9:31:18 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: usconservative

Your post confuses me a bit. By all accounts Bashar has been far more tolerant of Christians than the jihadists will be.

Yes, Russia will have “won”, but as Obama is backing jihadists, what is a better alternative?

Syria will now be weaker no matter what. If Bashar wins, Syria will be unsafe for non-alawhite Muslim organizations. That has got to be a better alternative for the U.S. and Coptic Christians than a new Islamic republic.

Frankly, the Russians no longer give away good equipment, so a better armed Syria isn’t in the cards. Get another generation of jihadists to die in Syria, and we are the better for it.


24 posted on 05/19/2013 9:48:54 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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25 posted on 05/19/2013 10:03:17 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: ontap
Someone explain to me why I should give a crap which of these two terrorists wins!!!

You really shouldn't...

But, Assad Pest Control, Inc. spraying those roaches is actually doing us a favor!

26 posted on 05/19/2013 10:06:27 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: MinorityRepublican

If our current jacka$$ administration wants to arm the rebels, clearly, Assad is the better party to support.


27 posted on 05/19/2013 10:27:17 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What a magnificent fustercluck.

The jihadis want to exterminate the Saud and “liberate” Mecca - as they attempted to do with the assault on the Grand Mosque.

The Iranians want to exterminate the Saud and “liberate” Mecca for their imam - and restore the Fatamid caliphate of north africa (when shia islam ruled Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, etc etc etc).

It’s pretty obvious why foreign powers are scrambling to have their player win in Syria (well maybe not so obvious).

Whichever side wins we are screwed.

It’s a modern art masterpiece.


28 posted on 05/19/2013 10:46:09 AM PDT by hank ernade
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To: MinorityRepublican

Obama doesn’t want Assad toppled...this would make it clear that Saddam’a wmd are in Syria.


29 posted on 05/19/2013 12:19:56 PM PDT by what's up
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To: usconservative

What they want is for the US and NATO to enforce a no fly zone.


30 posted on 05/19/2013 2:17:20 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: BobL
...or does he just wish that the whole civil war never happened.

right now he's trying to get the rest of his family out of Syria .... I don't think anyone's under any illusions that Christian's remaining in Syria are going to be "treated well" irrespective of the outcome.

31 posted on 05/19/2013 2:57:55 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SampleMan
Syria will now be weaker no matter what.

Correct, which doesn't bode well for Christian's left in Syria whether or not Bashir Al-Assad wins and is left with weakend support and a weakened military.

32 posted on 05/19/2013 3:00:27 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Yea, I knew an Egyptian Copt that was trying to do the same over there, even before this lovely Arab Spring. Needless to say, it’s much worse now.

I obviously can’t blame anyone wanting to leave Syria now, but millions of Christians will be left back there - if they throw in their hand with Assad, they just might be able to live out their lives...maybe. But any of the other sides will simply exterminate or at least expel them, immediately.


33 posted on 05/19/2013 3:32:13 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: usconservative

If he has killed all of the domestic opposition (Islamists) Syria will be stronger internally, while weaker externally.


34 posted on 05/19/2013 3:32:31 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

This bubbling crap casserole is but an event in the ongoing campaign to end Saudi rule of Arabia.
The main hazard to them is Iran and some sunni factions that oppose the Saud.
SA is upheld by western powers and targeted by every faction that opposes the west. The Saud have been walking a tightrope over destruction for decades.
The media reports little of the turmoil in SA (and area) and this is turmoil that has spilled into Syria. Make no mistake - Iran, AlQaida, and the Ikwhan Mussulman (Muslim Brotherhood) each want the Saud gone and control of the Hejaz and the Eastern Province oil fields for themselves.

If either side prevails in Syria it bodes trouble for the West. Russia of course knows time is on the side of Iran and is backing their play.

And we have our fearless leader backing the rebels.
This is organized lunacy on a Marx Brothers scale - whichever side wins, we lose.


35 posted on 05/19/2013 3:49:10 PM PDT by hank ernade
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To: MinorityRepublican

Setting aside morality (neither side has any)...the best outcome for the rest of the free world is Assad struggling to rebuild Syria’s infrastructure for the next decade or two under persistent insurgent attacks. What would be a better realistically foreseeable outcome?


36 posted on 05/20/2013 6:10:30 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: usconservative
"Jihadi's see Syria as a tipping point and Iran along with Russia see this as a proxy war against the United States' influence in the middle east." - usconservative

No, they don't. Stop making things up.

37 posted on 05/20/2013 6:16:38 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Thanks to the media few know of the blood feud between Iran and Saudi Arabia that is driving the turmoil in the middle east.
It is an ancient feud arising from sunni islams’ “betrayal” of shia islam over the centuries. Even now the Saudis blatantly discriminate against their shia minority. The Saudis violently suppressed the shia in Bahrain with US consent.
The sunnis destroyed all shia shrines in Arabia and even in other countries.
This is a hate match that makes the Pak-India grudgefight seem tame.
The crazy thing is the parties to this Meccan wrestling match - you have Iran in one corner with Hezbollah, AQAP (AlQaida Arabian Peninsula) in another, and the Muslim Brotherhood in yet another, all going after the Saudis.

The AQAP are Arabian but consider the Saud decadent western lackeys, and are ultra Wahhabists who consider all other muslims apostates - they are allied with the MB, but the MB are pan-arab and represent many of the muslims AQAP consider unholy apostates.
The MB are caught between the shia and AQAP. The AQAP descend from the Ikwhan movement that destroyed shia shrines and butchered non-wahhabi muslims before being suppressed by the Saud. They have no love for many of the MB’s “apostates” but hate the shia with a mindless passion.

The conflict in Syria is these three gutting each other for the right to wipe out the Saud.

The Russians and possibly the MB see Iran as the eventual winner - which makes AQAP the “extra prince”. Considering that most african muslims are of a school that distrusts Hanbali/Wahhabism, it wouldn’t take much for them to throw in with Iran (which they have probably already done).

However the point of all this abomination is the destruction of the Saudis.


38 posted on 05/20/2013 8:19:33 AM PDT by hank ernade
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To: SunkenCiv

I trust that anyone old enough to remember Vietnam and the Iranian Revolution won’t be surprised when a Democrat is president and the faction our government supports is losing.


39 posted on 05/20/2013 11:17:05 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: Berosus

The Demagogic Party only supports our allies during that first blush of public opinion — as that subsides, they return to their anti-American agenda.


40 posted on 05/20/2013 4:41:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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