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FBI agents die in Virginia training accident
The Guardian, UK ^ | 19 May 2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/19/2013 6:22:46 PM PDT by pepperdog

FBI agents die in Virginia training accidentPair of agents from elite hostage rescue team (excerpt)

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: accident; christopherlorek; fbi; hostagerescue; stephenshaw
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To: RockyTx

It was indeed FBI HRT.

Definitely guys capable of knowing too much.


21 posted on 05/19/2013 8:13:30 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

What is HRT?

Were these agents involved in an operation that would be damaging to Obama?


22 posted on 05/19/2013 8:16:01 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Cyman

Cuz it’s gonna take a lotta fancy toys to kill a Constitution and 75 million patriots.


23 posted on 05/19/2013 8:16:33 PM PDT by tomkat (solve for x: Baraq = islamite .. islam = enemy ... Baraq = x)
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To: House Atreides

I don’t think the baby that she was holding died. The FBI murderer shot her in the head. The teenage son was shot in the back by the feds in a separate incident.


24 posted on 05/19/2013 8:28:12 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: tomkat

I used to feel bad when things like this happened. Now I just.....can’t.


25 posted on 05/19/2013 8:35:55 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Were these two agents at Waco? If not, I don’t know were you get off besmirching the names of dead men who, as far as you can possibly know, have not done anything wrong or dishonorable.


26 posted on 05/19/2013 8:47:12 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: wintertime

Hostage Rescue Team —


27 posted on 05/19/2013 8:48:25 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Reagan Conservative)
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To: jjotto; TexGrill

That was the very first thing that crossed my mind — Obamacide.


28 posted on 05/19/2013 8:49:12 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TexGrill

There are an awful lotta fatal “training accidents” lately - military and otherwise.


29 posted on 05/19/2013 9:04:54 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("I am not the President, I just play one after I watch some TV")
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To: pepperdog

Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

#35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

(To “Dismantle” is subjective, I suppose.)


30 posted on 05/19/2013 9:11:11 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mortrey

#35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

The FBI is doing a real fine job at this by themselves! Almost as good as the BATFE has done.


31 posted on 05/19/2013 9:48:33 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: pepperdog

Hostage rescue team.....door kicking teaparty harassment team.....IRS persecution enablement team..... call them
what you want but in the end they are a bunch of hired
guns selling their souls and their skills. And the people
they chose as the customers for their skills are the criminals infesting Mordor on the Potomac.


32 posted on 05/19/2013 10:07:26 PM PDT by nvscanman
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To: wintertime

What is HRT? I am sure another FReeper must have said it is the hostage rescue team of the FBI. What is really unique about those guys however is that it is tier 1 operations team. There are only two other (known) tier 1 units - DEVGRU (better known as SEAL Team 6) and CAG (better known as Delta Force). In counter-terrorism/hostage-rescue duties, the HRT is better trained than Tier 2 units like the normal SEAL teams (non ST6 teams) and the Army Special Forces (Green Berets).


33 posted on 05/19/2013 11:53:25 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Glennb51

I would argue that the military is much more widely distributed with the proper equipment and training than the FBI could ever be.

How many helicopters does the military have versus the FBI? Don’t you think anyone who is part of a hostage rescue or response team would be on call and able to travel anywhere in the country at a moment’s notice?


34 posted on 05/20/2013 3:25:14 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I agree. There is no call for some of the comments I see on here, and it is embarrassing.

There is a lot to dislike about the way various governmental agencies are constituted and tasked these days (as I am referencing in my posts) but these men were doing their job.


35 posted on 05/20/2013 3:29:34 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: spetznaz

Thank you very much.


36 posted on 05/20/2013 5:02:17 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

They’re agents of an out-of-control feral government. That’s all you need to know.


37 posted on 05/20/2013 5:29:48 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("“Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The FBI Hostage Roasting Team was practicing their BBQ skills. Not to mention the fact that they have to practice shooting people to death As they attempt to escape the flames.

I am happy to see your post. In my opinion, that was one of the opening salvos by the government against the people in this country. We must keep in our minds what they have already done, as they are capable of doing it again.

38 posted on 05/20/2013 6:00:41 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: rlmorel
I agree. There is no call for some of the comments I see on here, and it is embarrassing.

There is a lot to dislike about the way various governmental agencies are constituted and tasked these days (as I am referencing in my posts) but these men were doing their job.

I mourn any loss of life. I am saddened that these two humans died. Perhaps they had families at home. However, they will not escape my criticism as agents of this federal government, specifically the agency known to implement "shoot on sight" rules of engagement against Americans.

39 posted on 05/20/2013 6:05:23 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

These may have been good men, but it is hard to forgive an FBI that has never apologized for the slaughter of innocents at Ruby Ridge and Waco. Those incidents may be twenty years old or so, but the are not forgotten. I have always believed they were the events that first exposed the rot within the US government. Beginning with those murders it became apparent that we now have an “us versus them” situation in this country, which is a reality that becomes more obvious each day. All agencies of the former federal, but now fascist government, have decided to wage war against the freedom loving people of America.


40 posted on 05/20/2013 6:33:16 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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