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Donna Brazile: We're pointing a gun at our democracy
CNN ^ | May 18, 2013 | Donna Brazile, Gore campaign manager

Posted on 05/20/2013 7:48:30 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Our democracy is endangered. Not by the Russians, North Korea, the Iran regime, or even terrorists. To quote Pogo: "We have met the enemy and he is us."

Inside the beltway, the fingers point and the media tuts and struts in glee, and we, the American public, respond by becoming more rigid and divided ourselves. No more "truth springing from argument amongst friends," as David Hume said. A recent nonpartisan Pew Research Poll finds our knee-jerk partisanship has increased dramatically.

This road we're on will lead us step-by-step to an extreme: either an autocratic government that functions, or a dysfunctional anarchy. The petty squabbles, bilge in the name of party or principle, will dissolve our self-government.

Abraham Lincoln felt no foreign power could ever defeat the United States. He said, "From whence shall we expect the approach of danger? Shall some trans-Atlantic military giant step the earth and crush us at a blow? Never...No, if destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men we will live forever or die by suicide."

We're pointing a pistol at our heads. A government of, by, and for the people requires that people talk to people, that we can agree to disagree but do so in civility. If we let the politicians and those who report dictate our discourse, then our course will be dictated.

Why am I alarmed? Because two "scandals" -- the IRS tax-exempt inquiries and the Department of Justice's tapping of reporters' phones -- have become lynch parties. And the congressional investigation of Benghazi may become a scandal in itself.

The IRS scandal has sparked bipartisan outrage that should require a bipartisan solution. The director who oversaw this was a Bush appointee who was confirmed by a Democratic Congress.....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benghazi; citizensunited; irs; obama
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Do we actually live in a democracy, Donna? I thought this was a republic.
1 posted on 05/20/2013 7:48:30 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Donna, I can sum up your argument just fine:

“How dare anyone question the authority of the government of the United States?” She said we have two alternatives as we go down this road: anarchy or authoritarianism. It’s pretty clear which one she picked.


2 posted on 05/20/2013 7:52:14 AM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is what they have been aiming for all along. I think they just got a glimpse of what it will look like when it happens. I have no dobut the American people will come together when the time comes, it will be a war of the takers vs the makers and the makers will win.


3 posted on 05/20/2013 7:52:21 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When one looks at the left ... one sees ignorance on display with a desire to place those who disagree on a train.


4 posted on 05/20/2013 7:52:49 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The rise of the Alinskyites is what has polarized the country, Ms. Alinsky.

The purpose of Rules for Radicals is polarization, marginalization and extermination of those you disagree with.

5 posted on 05/20/2013 7:52:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("“Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I heard this am on am radio that 43% of Americans think the IRS targeting of conservative groups is all A-OK.

How is THAT for “civility”?


6 posted on 05/20/2013 7:54:34 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, donna, your american idol, barrack hussein obama, has already turned it into an autocratic, race baiting government with chief us attorney backing him at every corner.


7 posted on 05/20/2013 7:55:16 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: allmendream

CNN poll had 62% of Democrats OPPOSED to it...


8 posted on 05/20/2013 7:55:53 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"A government of, by, and for the people requires that people talk to people, that we can agree to disagree but do so in civility."

I'm so done with that, Donna. All chance of talking ended when your boy issued his "I want you to get in their faces" directive back in 2008. You crossed the Rubicon long ago.
9 posted on 05/20/2013 7:56:10 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Because two "scandals" -- the IRS tax-exempt inquiries and the Department of Justice's tapping of reporters' phones -- have become lynch parties.

Not yet Donna, but we're working on it.

5.56mm

10 posted on 05/20/2013 7:58:26 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Evil people who wish to empower themselves by doing me harm have always been extremely “partisan.” They have always found a home in the Democrat party and they have always hated everyone who does not partake in their evil. Now these same people are becoming unmasked and are upset that the vitims of their evil have begun to hate them back.


11 posted on 05/20/2013 7:59:37 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let's see what else Abe had to say in that speech.

It is to deny, what the history of the world tells us is true, to suppose that men of ambition and talents will not continue to spring up amongst us. And, when they do, they will as naturally seek the gratification of their ruling passion, as others have so done before them. The question then, is, can that gratification be found in supporting and maintaining an edifice that has been erected by others? Most certainly it cannot.... It thirsts and burns for distinction; and, if possible, it will have it, whether at the expense of emancipating slaves, or enslaving freemen.

The question is whether it is possible to seek "truth springing from argument amongst friends" when those friends are nothing of the kind, but people who openly proclaim their intention to "fundamentally change" America. Whether their doing so really constitutes "enslaving free men" can be debated, but if that is indeed their goal then they aren't really friends at all.

Back to Lincoln: Is it unreasonable then to expect, that some man possessed of the loftiest genius, coupled with ambition sufficient to push it to its utmost stretch, will at some time, spring up among us? And when such a one does, it will require the people to be united with each other, attached to the government and laws, and generally intelligent, to successfully frustrate his designs.

We're not dealing here, to be sure, with a Bonaparte, which seemed to be Lincoln's concern, but with a class or group that is convinced it is right and proper for them to tyrannize over the rest of us.

Yet the author of this piece believes we should treat them as friends equally seeking only the good of all. Abe thought the rest of us needed to band together to fight them, not pretend they aren't determined to destroy our system.

12 posted on 05/20/2013 7:59:51 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The IRS scandal should result in the repeal of the income tax, the dissolution of the IRS, and the abolition of government employee unions.


13 posted on 05/20/2013 8:01:16 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PghBaldy
Well that is good news at least. It was hard for me to believe that so many Americans thought banana republic style utilization of the power of government to quash opposition was just fine.
14 posted on 05/20/2013 8:01:42 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our democracy is endangered.

She’s right...with that one simple statement. We’re not a democracy. We’re a Constitutional Republic.

The Left keeps throwing the word democracy out there in hopes of convincing people, and I think they’ve done a decent job on this, that we’re a democracy...not a Republic.


15 posted on 05/20/2013 8:02:02 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Donna can BREAK this terrible (so-called) partisanship by calling for Obama’s resignation.


16 posted on 05/20/2013 8:02:12 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: allmendream

A lady called into Hannity last week and was all for it.
She stated that she considered the EXISTANCE of conservatives to be oppressive to her.


17 posted on 05/20/2013 8:02:19 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Even Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein says he doubts very much that Obama was involved

I'm sure he isn't.

He is the face of a parallel government. He is a cardboard cutout.

18 posted on 05/20/2013 8:05:40 AM PDT by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Translation: Lack of civility = criticizing the anointed one.
19 posted on 05/20/2013 8:06:08 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: marron

He doesn’t have to be involved.
His role is to make sure that this activity is not thwarted by the executive branch.


20 posted on 05/20/2013 8:06:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Our democracy is endangered

Good. Democracy is evil.

21 posted on 05/20/2013 8:06:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are giddy over the Bush appointee..


22 posted on 05/20/2013 8:09:08 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Skip impeachment and move straight to deportation..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the end game of Democrats for any who dare challenge their divine appointment to rule over all of us.

23 posted on 05/20/2013 8:13:12 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A summary of Donna Brazile’s article:

Accept the end of America, otherwise it’ll end America.


24 posted on 05/20/2013 8:15:01 AM PDT by kidd
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To: henkster

Here’s a better alternative... We accept the reality that liberals hate conservatives. We accept that they will use the force of government against us and our children if we continue to live where they can damage us.

We resolve to start the process of splitting the country into two countries. One liberal. One conservative.

Liberals can have it all in ‘their country’... Abortion on demand until 10 minutes AFTER the child is born - twist those little heads right off... Open borders so third world hellholes can empty themselves into the ‘liberal US’, ‘marriage’ between any things or groups. Who are we to judge, right? IRS groups that can punish citizens they don’t like, voter fraud to support one side... Really liberals can have it all. Every city can be Detroit with the ethics of Chicago. Health care can be used to control the population ... good Germans - opps, good Democrats will get the surgery they need - bad ones will suffer. But conservatives won’t be here to watch.. Is that cool or what? Divide the United States.

Conservatives won’t be in ‘liberal US’ to rain on liberals’ prades. Two countries. Liberals can have it all. And so can we. In their country we won’t object to their ways. We won’t ‘slow them down’. We won’t stand in the way of their ‘legislation’...

And for us? We just want to get the hell out of here.


25 posted on 05/20/2013 8:15:42 AM PDT by GOPJ (It's Gotten So Bad for Obama Fox News Changed Its Slogan to "See. I Told You So!"- Leno)
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To: Obadiah

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


26 posted on 05/20/2013 8:16:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: henkster

Here’s a better alternative... We accept the reality that liberals hate conservatives. We accept that they will use the force of government against us and our children if we continue to live where they can damage us.

We resolve to start the process of splitting the country into two countries. One liberal. One conservative.

Donna Brazile - you don’t have to ‘put up with us’ - just let us go. Start the process of dividing the country. You and your fellow democrats can have EVERYTHING YOUR WAY in your half... wouldn’t that be nice?

Start the process...

Liberals can have it all in ‘their country’... Abortion on demand until 10 minutes AFTER the child is born - twist those little heads right off... Open borders so third world hellholes can empty themselves into the ‘liberal US’, ‘marriage’ between any things or groups. Who are we to judge, right? IRS groups that can punish citizens they don’t like, voter fraud to support one side... Really liberals can have it all. Every city can be Detroit with the ethics of Chicago. Health care can be used to control the population ... good Germans - opps, good Democrats will get the surgery they need - bad ones will suffer. But conservatives won’t be here to watch.. Is that cool or what? Divide the United States.

Conservatives won’t be in ‘liberal US’ to rain on liberals’ prades. Two countries. Liberals can have it all. And so can we. In their country we won’t object to their ways. We won’t ‘slow them down’. We won’t stand in the way of their ‘legislation’...

And for us? We just want to get the hell out of here.


27 posted on 05/20/2013 8:18:04 AM PDT by GOPJ (It's Gotten So Bad for Obama Fox News Changed Its Slogan to "See. I Told You So!"- Leno)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When a moderate Republican administration is in office, the left foams at the mouth. It is like watching a pack a rabid dogs tearing away at a lamb. All of the mainstream, “leftwing” media go at it with a vengeance, their excuse being that questioning government is their job. But let a leftwing radical get in office, and watch the corruption roll, while the leftwing media does all it can to help.

Screw sitting quietly by while the leftist media fails to do its job. Obama’s imperial government sucks, and it needs to be run out of town.


28 posted on 05/20/2013 8:19:36 AM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The problem here is, Donna, you are not my friend with which I can have a reasonable discussion. You and those you support with your “fundamental transformation” have stepped outside the bounds where reasonable discussion may be held. We have a Constitution that has a process for making such transformations but your approach is one of who believes they were elected to “rule”, like your soul sister Valerie Jarrett. You are welcome to conduct your discussions in a DC echo chamber among the radicals there but most of us believe we have better ways to use our time to remove the likes of your fellow travelers from the body politic.


29 posted on 05/20/2013 8:21:19 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama and the democrats are solely responsible for the deep division in politics today. And Obama has personally thrown gas on the smoldering fire in pursuit of his own agenda, and the country be damned. If Obama continues with his malicious brand of politics, and ignoring the constitution, he will be the owner of any bloody conflicts, and will destroy the democrat party forever. Just as Hitler led the Germans to their destruction, and the renunciation of German nationalism forever. Obama’s reign will become the historical embarrassment and the very image of abomination, proving once again what can happen when the people allow themselves to be led astray by electing a lying, evil person, hell bent on destruction. If there was a son of the devil, Obama would be him.


30 posted on 05/20/2013 8:22:00 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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Donna Brazile: We're pointing a gun at our democracy

That sounds pretty hypocritical coming from a socialist, Donna.

31 posted on 05/20/2013 8:30:08 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let me take a stab at capsulizing your argument, Donna.
When it is a Democrat generated scandal let’s just skip to
the solution portion of the issue. When we are talking about
a Republican generated scandal let’s investigate it until the
cows come home and cast the widest possible net over the
suspects. When that is done we can execute all of the offenders.


32 posted on 05/20/2013 8:33:17 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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33 posted on 05/20/2013 8:35:07 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This road we're on will lead us step-by-step to an extreme: either an autocratic government that functions, or a dysfunctional anarchy. The petty squabbles, bilge in the name of party or principle, will dissolve our self-government.

Why choose just one. The Obama path seems to be autocratic anarchy. The trains won't run on time, but anyone can get the midnight knock on the door.

34 posted on 05/20/2013 8:35:43 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: henkster

her argument is how dare we persecute her black brother


35 posted on 05/20/2013 8:37:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When you’re dead wrong, play the civility and/or racism card.


36 posted on 05/20/2013 8:42:08 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: GOPJ

Let’s just split the country and be done with it. I hate living with these people anyway.


37 posted on 05/20/2013 8:42:17 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Travis McGee
First, can you imagine Donna saying something remotely like this if these scandals occurred under a Republican administration?! Secondly ....

The director who oversaw this was a Bush appointee ....

Good grief?! Going to this well again?! It's Bush's fault?! EPIC FAIL!!!

For your education Donna, here's where it ALL started ...


38 posted on 05/20/2013 8:45:48 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Obadiah

39 posted on 05/20/2013 8:46:59 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: T-Bird45

Civility: New Democrat Ad in MA Has Gun Firing at Republican’s Head
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3020881/posts

CIVILITY, OURS AND THEIRS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2351193/posts
Example of Liberal Civility
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2686949/posts


40 posted on 05/20/2013 8:48:44 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I know it must be upsetting to find out that 0bama is a crook, Donna. So let's just forget the whole thing and everybody will be happy, right?

Except if you happen to be left to die defending a burning embassy facility, that is, but then that's just a bump in the road, right? Or you're a reporter silly enough to think that your phone records are private, but that's only a few people, right?

And then there is the difficulty that if you happen to be a member of the political opposition facing IRS harassment and potential prison at the hands of a hostile and corrupt government, you might not be in quite such a forgiving mood. Yes, Donna, there's a gun pointed at us and your government is holding it.

41 posted on 05/20/2013 8:50:46 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The director who oversaw this was a Bush appointee who was confirmed by a Democratic Congress.....

it is uncertain how much the director oversaw. It looks like the directive was pushed down by Obama via the IRS union chief, bypassing the official managerial structure.

42 posted on 05/20/2013 8:58:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
It looks like the directive was pushed down by Obama via the IRS union chief, bypassing the official managerial structure.

Thanks.

43 posted on 05/20/2013 9:05:48 AM PDT by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Donna Brazile: We're pointing a gun at our democracy

Donna, we are a republic. We have never been a democracy. By your statement, you reveal yourself to be an enemy of the republic.

So no, there will be no "reasoned discourse" between us. You are not my friend. You are my enemy.

44 posted on 05/20/2013 9:26:32 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama is involved in scandal upon scandal in which he is accused of tyranny yet if we the citizens act to investigate him we are pointing a gun at our democracy?

I think you have in backwards there, Donna.

45 posted on 05/20/2013 9:32:25 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes donna... you and obama certainly do have a gun to our heads.

LLS


46 posted on 05/20/2013 9:54:02 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thats right. We only live buy mob rule when our goverment chooses to ignore its laws.


47 posted on 05/20/2013 9:55:59 AM PDT by DeWalt
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To: PowderMonkey

Never forget that the kenyan told illegals and mexicans that he and donna were going to take out their enemies... which were “We the People”.

LLS


48 posted on 05/20/2013 9:57:19 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: marron

Why is little Timmy getting the pass?


49 posted on 05/20/2013 10:22:07 AM PDT by DeWalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

50 posted on 05/20/2013 10:28:53 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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