Posted on 05/20/2013 9:46:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Ethnic and racial identity are self-reported. There is no objective means to identify a person’s ethnicity as used on numerous government forms and on the affirmative action forms used by companies and universities. DNA is not taken in these studies. Furthermore, studies of DNA have shown that we are all related a few times removed.
Get with the program. Of course there are Hispanics -upi capitalized the term, the census counts them, the government gibes them affirmative action benefits, and the leftists bribe them. Guess what -some of those Hispanics are also 'gay beings'... Who needs science?
The Indian and Filipino statistics really jump out at me.
My Seattle based company uses about 200 semi-skilled temp workers.
They are about two thirds foreign born, and earn $10-$16 per hour.
We usually have zero percent Indian temp workers.
We usually have about 20% Filipino temp workers.
There are thousands of Indian software engineers in Seattle, but no Indian day laborers.
Do you have any idea what occupations Filipinos work in to generate such a large median income?
Perhaps the critical word is “Household” income?
Perhaps Filipinos have more children and most of the children work?
One other possible distortion in these numbers.....
Virtually all first generation Asian children live with their parents until the children marry.
Thus, Asian “Households” are probably much larger than white and Black “Households.”
I think it might be more helpful to see the “Per Capita” income for each race.
Also, college statistics on immigrants can be quite deceptive.
Allegedly, one third of immigrants have a college degree, which is actually higher than native born white Americans.
One problem.....
Most immigrants come from third world countries, their degrees are NOT accredited by American corporations, and they usually spent their entire professional career working in a non-competitive job for their native government, or for a company owned by their native government.
From my associations in university and corporate environments in the US, I have a large number of Indian-ethnicity American friends, and almost all of them are of the typical nuclear family model - husband, wife and one or two kids. Most of the couples hold very traditional views on sex, and often, the husband and wife were introduced to each other by their parents. Very few divorced / single mom households in that community. It’s a stark contrast and something that stands out when you prod at the works to examine their social dynamics.
They all had an Indian bachelors degree topped by a US masters degree (and in some cases, a US PhD). US universities and companies recognise Indian university degrees, and based on how Indian students perform academically in the US, I doubt any trust deficit issue exists over the quality of the Indian university education these people received.
I am aware Filipinos and many Asians live in joint-family households. This may be a factor in skewing the Filipino statistics, but I would doubt its application on the Indian community. A nuclear family with two incomes from individuals with a BS and MS education usually in the hard sciences, medicine or engineering ought to account for the high numbers in that table for this ethnicity.
Yes.
The Indian income level looked quite reasonable to me.
If my comment implied otherwise, I did not mean to.
Pew Research had a survey in 2012 on Asian voting patterns.
On that issue, the news is not so good.
Indian-Americans vote 90% for the Democrat Party, which was a complete shock to me.
Even Americans from Communist China only vote 80% for Democrats.
The Filipinos “only” vote 55% for Democrats, which makes them the most “Conservative” Asian group.
I’ve asked about it.
Indians, like most American Jews, are ticked off by what they identify as religious extremists in the Republican Party. I wouldn’t be surprised if voting patterns between the two ethnicities / cultures also matched.
I’ve asked about it too. Many Indian Hindus are proud of the religious tolerance and diversity in their country, but also think Americans lack an understanding of the Muslim issue there.
And they still have a view that however good the free market is for increasing wealth, much needs to be done for the poor. I take this to be because they have seen such poverty, as well as due to the political history and mix in which they were raised.
Let me parse the above:
An open letter signed by 23 ethnic student racial segregationist groups contains this gem: “Even if such claims had merit We know these claims are scientifically true, the Kennedy [Our Holy Martyrs of the Elites John and Bob] School cannot ethically stand by this dissertation [and still be purveyors of white guilt/white elitism] whose end result can only be furthering discrimination [against those low-IQ immigrants illegally entering our country] under the guise of academic discourse [contrary to the established ruling liberal politics currently accepted].”
No, this guy is better off funded privately. His case can be discussed over and over again in the coming months. As FReepers we should make his conclusions the topic of our regular personal discussions, radio programs and call in shows.
Write the reporters who slandered him and call them out on it. Post on their blogs with links to scientific sources. Make this a topic.
Political Correctness thrives where debate is limited or silenced. Use your God-given 1st Amendment Right and tell the truth.
Smell that - that’s conservatives speaking “truth to power” - and it smells like victory!
Take it easy. It’s the lingua franca of academia. They use Hispanic. Some prefer Latino, which is only a mild improvement. We know they’re frauds, but the lie’s been told so many times that, well, you get it, right?
Correct and he does us a further favor. When the left discusses “income inequality”, usually using the Gini-coefficient (a tool invented for the purpose of promoting a ‘need for’ fascism), they leave out the massive increase in low-IQ, low education, illegal immigrants and fatherless households (which don’t include the net cash benefits of welfare).
Comparing households is a statistical trick, effective in fooling the uninitiated.
There is no standard definition for ‘household income’. What is a household?
Better to look at mean individual incomes and then I’d still like to see the raw data.
So, you've read his dissertation section on how he constructed the statistical analysis and what criteria he used to represent the word 'hispanic' for purposes of discussion. Awesome! What else did his dissertation say?
I am very disappointed.
I remember when Judge Douglas Ginsburg, back in the 80s withdrew from consideration for the Supreme Court because he had smoked pot in college; I thought at the time he should have just stood up to it, like the lefties always do. But because Reagan had nominated him, it was a big foofahrah.
As he said in the article:
Second, the prediction that IQ differences will persist over generations does not rely on assumptions of genetic transmission, but rather on observational data from past immigrant waves. The IQ differences have been persistent — for whatever reason — and nothing is happening to the education or socialization of the current generation of Hispanics that gives reason to expect a break with past experience. Therefore, it is literally “difficult to argue against” continued differences in the next generation — unless hope trumps experience, but I doubt my dissertation committee would have found that argument compelling.
That's not to say that the Social Utopianists won't put an aggressive program in place for future Hispanic children; although they've had many years to do so and Spanish language instruction has been a non-starter everywhere it's been tried. And at the rate they are already spending, there won't be any money left over for such.
This abstraction might make sense to a fairly bright 10 year old, but actually making the effort to learn is practice for more learning. IQ as an innate quality is highly suspect.
But by the time a person is old enough to be able to overcome their early circumstances and apply themselves to learning, the forces of conditioning, environment and other forms of are already bearing down, since the majority of brain growth takes place before the age of 6.
Can you show us any statistical study of individuals who have "broken the mold"? My guess is that it would be a small percentage. In fact, as many bright parents have found, their own children may not be as bright, since "regression towards the mean" is also a real phenomenon.
The fact that some phenomenon like "a better environment producing better results in one generation" is possible most certainly does not mean it will take place for the majority of immigrants. They will be products of their family life, same as everyone else. Public school and school lunches are certainly not going to be enough. They have never been enough for our present crop of underclass.
Your IQ isn’t something you can ‘learn’. It is there or it isn’t.
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