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Lower the age of consent to 13? Why stop there?
LifeSite News ^ | Tue May 14, 2013 | Elise Hilton

Posted on 05/20/2013 1:23:24 PM PDT by presidio9

Barbara Hewson, a London barrister, has made the call for lowering the age of sexual consent in the United Kingdom from 16 to 13. Her reasoning (if one may call it that) is that the current age of consent leads to the harassment and “persecution of old men.” She also believes that underage victims should have no right to anonymity, and that law based on the best interests of the child should not trump the “rights” of men who like to kiss a 13-year-old, or put one’s hand up a 16-year-old’s skirt.

time to end this prurient charade, which has nothing to do with justice or the public interest. Adults and law-enforcement agencies must stop fetishising victimhood. Instead, we should focus on arming today’s youngsters with the savoir-faire and social skills to avoid drifting into compromising situations, and prosecute modern crime. As for law reform, now regrettably necessary, my recommendations are: remove complainant anonymity; introduce a strict statute of limitations for criminal prosecutions and civil actions; and reduce the age of consent to 13.

What is a typical 13 year old girl like? Of course, this is only a generalization, but most parents will recognize some of these traits:

•They have lots of physical energy; •They’re fixated on personal appearance; •They can be quieter than 12s and 14s, moody and sensitive; •Boys travel in groups; girls focus on a few close friends; •They feel and exert peer pressure on clothes, music and conversational topics; •They worry about schoolwork; •They become more sarcastic; and •They answer parents with loud, extreme language, and like to challenge your authority.

Are they thinking about sex? Most likely. Are they physically, emotionally and psychologically ready for sex? No. That’s why parents and laws protect them. Thirteen year olds are impulsive, easily influenced by people outside of their family and do not have the brain function to fully predict outcomes.

All parents of teenagers know and all teachers of teenagers know how crucial it is to guide them, influence them and mold them. As much as they resist being molded and influenced, the fact is they still need it. They need it because their brain is still developing, and they need these experiences. A key experience that they get from adults, for example, is how to become more planful, how to have foresight, how to look ahead and realize, “What I’m doing now may have an effect on what happens to me five years from now.”

That is extremely difficult for a 13-year-old.

It appears that Hewson would be thrilled with the Obama administration’s “comfortable” decision to sell emergency contraceptives to teens as young as 15. It also appears that she’s never met an actual 13 year old. She seems much more concerned with the sexual predilections of adult men than the safety and welfare of children. One has to wonder why Hewson chose the age of 13; why not 12, or 9? So long as the adult involved is happy, then the child should be fine.

Except they are not. There are study after study that show the horrid effects of early sexual activity, not to mention what happens to a child who is preyed upon by an adult.

A study in Pediatrics found that the attempted suicide rate for sexually experienced girls between the ages of 12 and 16 is six times higher than it is for girls that age who are virgins. Recently, the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health found that both boys and girls who are sexually active are more likely to feel depressed and attempt suicide than peers who are not sexually active.

Here in the US, we have all been horrified by the recent case in Cleveland of Ariel Castro, who kidnapped and held hostage three young women (two of whom were young teens at the time of their kidnappings). What would Hewson say to Michelle Knight, Gina DeJesus, and Amanda Berry? Apparently she’d tell them they’d allowed themselves to “drift into compromising positions” and lacked the social skills needed to fend off the monster who held them captive. Perhaps Ms. Hewson could weigh in on child brides, such as Radha, 15, Gora, 13, and Rajani, 5. They were married in India to adult men. What might Ms. Hewson’s thoughts be on some 900,000 children who are trafficked every year in the U.S. in the sex trade?

By promoting the sexual “readiness” of children as young as 13, Ms. Hewson is admitting that children can be married, prostituted and used for the sexual pleasure of adults. For pedophiles and sex traffickers, satisfaction will not come from a slap and tickle as Ms. Hewson suggests. Lowering the age of consent would simply put a stamp of approval on predatory behavior. Ms. Hewson, as an officer of the court, you should know better. For shame.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ageofconsent; definingdeviancydown; moralabsolutes; morningafterpill; pedophiles; premaritalsex; statutoryrape

1 posted on 05/20/2013 1:23:24 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

So Hewson’s a pervert, right? Can I still say that?


2 posted on 05/20/2013 1:25:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: presidio9

Is she working for Muslims ?


3 posted on 05/20/2013 1:25:52 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Billthedrill

She is “socially progressive” don’t ya know.


4 posted on 05/20/2013 1:27:38 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: presidio9

As I predicted. Once the deviants forced society to accept queers as “normal” lowering the age of consent was to be the next step.

Looks they are in a hurry to accomplish it.

Just ask Whoopi Goldberg....


5 posted on 05/20/2013 1:27:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Billthedrill

6 posted on 05/20/2013 1:28:24 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: molson209

Muslims or whatever the Brit equivelent is for libertarians. They largely agree on age of consent laws.


7 posted on 05/20/2013 1:34:07 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: presidio9
The people who have been writing sex manuals for public schools over the last 20-30 years, SEICUS, believe that kids should be having sex by the age of eight-

"or it's too late."

8 posted on 05/20/2013 1:35:39 PM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: presidio9

Hooboy. Look in those eyes and you’ll see that somebody else is driving. (Apologies to Andy Kaufman)


9 posted on 05/20/2013 1:36:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: presidio9

I smell carpet...


10 posted on 05/20/2013 1:36:55 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: presidio9

11 posted on 05/20/2013 1:38:27 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: presidio9

Drop it down to 6. It’s sharia compliant.


12 posted on 05/20/2013 1:43:22 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: presidio9

I’ll go out on a limb here and speculate that Barbara Hewson likes to play with 2 year-old girls. She feels constrained by the arbitrary age limits imposed by a less indulgent society.


13 posted on 05/20/2013 1:46:26 PM PDT by ken in texas (The Obama Excuse: They never told me about it.)
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To: presidio9

legitimize child rape?


14 posted on 05/20/2013 1:51:49 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: presidio9

When bestiality is legalized, will the age of consent be measured in dog years?


15 posted on 05/20/2013 1:54:34 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: presidio9

There’s a bit of interesting history here.

Till the late 1800s the age of consent in England was 13, in Scotland 12, and in most US states 10(!) or 12.

http://chnm.gmu.edu/cyh/primary-sources/24

This of course applied to girls having sex with men, since boys having sex with men was completely illegal anyway.


16 posted on 05/20/2013 1:57:50 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: presidio9

This is conflict resolution for it’s own sake, ie: Hegel’s paradox. The witting intent is subversion, meanwhile the very basic social construct and services fails.


17 posted on 05/20/2013 1:58:24 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Sherman Logan

That may be true, but 12 year olds a century ago were already working and a lot more mature. Besides which, I imagine their parents expected or demanded they get married soon after being caught having sex. “Childhood” today lasts into the mid-30’s.


18 posted on 05/20/2013 2:04:04 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn
Teens back then may indeed have been more mature psychologically. But today they, especially girls, enter puberty on average much earlier.

So they are physically ready for sex earlier, and mentally/psychologically less ready.

A recipe for disaster. Which is what we see around us.

19 posted on 05/20/2013 2:07:36 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Fitzy_888
This is conflict resolution for it’s own sake, ie: Hegel’s paradox. The witting intent is subversion, meanwhile the very basic social construct and services fails.

This is what they call "critical theory," which I did not understand till recently.

It is not a reasonable criticism of a problem or injustice, which is then dropped when the injustice is addressed.

It is a constant critique that when one injustice or inequity is addressed is not satisfied even momentarily, but instead moves on to something else. IOW, it is at war with ANY possible society. Nothing we could possibly do could satisfy critical theorists.

In which it has much in common with Islam, in which Islam is always and forever at war with the House of War, by definition.

20 posted on 05/20/2013 2:12:05 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

True, diets back then didn’t allow for early menses, because everyone was poorer and ate much less fat.


21 posted on 05/20/2013 2:18:55 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: presidio9
She also believes that underage victims should have no right to anonymity, and that law based on the best interests of the child should not trump the “rights” of men who like to kiss a 13-year-old, or put one’s hand up a 16-year-old’s skirt.

What "right" should a man have of banging or attempting to bang a 13 or 16 year old?

22 posted on 05/20/2013 2:18:55 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Amberdawn

Well, that’s one theory. There are several others, including increased exposure to sexual material, and plastics and other synthetic materials acting as estrogenic compounds.

In UK, average age of girls reaching puberty has declined five years since 1920.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/oct/21/puberty-adolescence-childhood-onset

!!


23 posted on 05/20/2013 2:23:32 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Yes, I’ve heard those theories. I wonder if there are any studies that investigate both boys and girls and the changes seen in their reproductive systems. I’ve read about how estrogens in plastic MAY feminize boys.


24 posted on 05/20/2013 2:39:15 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Sherman Logan

I’ve read it summarized generally as something like: As my rights will inevitably conflict with your rights; as your rights will inevitably conflict with mine; we must both therefore be slaves to the system that resolves all conflict and pursues it to it’s minutia.

This is sweating the small stuff, with zeal.

If you can control the subject of conflict resolution in perpetuity, even if it’s pure folly, then it’s a means to an end => perpetual control.

In another time, your grandpa might say simply: “Do ‘t sweat the small stuff”; “Live and let live.” and “The road to hell is paved with good intensions.”

Note these simple a axioms are not now PC.


25 posted on 05/20/2013 2:53:03 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: zeestephen

What kind of an equal sign will they have for the sheep/human union?


26 posted on 05/20/2013 3:05:11 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: presidio9

A woman recommended this???? What a witch....she could not possibly have children


27 posted on 05/20/2013 3:26:33 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
Introduction

Barbara is regularly ranked as a Leading Junior by The Legal 500 in the fields of Public & Administrative Law, Human Rights & Civil Liberties, and Professional Discipline and Regulatory Law.

Her practice includes Judicial Review, Healthcare law, Inquests, Mental Capacity /Court of Protection, Professional Liability, Professional Discipline and Employment law.

She is also a member of the Bars of Ireland (1991) and of Northern Ireland (2000).Her experience covers a wide range of courts and tribunals, both in the United Kingdom and abroad, and she has won cases in the ECJ, European Court of Human Rights, and the Supreme Court and High Court of the Republic of Ireland. She acts for local authorities, corporations, service-providers, non-profit organizations and individuals. She also acts as mediation advocate.

She has a particular interest in reproductive rights, and was the first member of the Bar to receive the Lawyer’s ‘Barrister of the Year’ Award, for her pioneering work opposing court-ordered treatment of pregnant women. She writes prolifically for both legal and non-legal journals, and has extensive media experience.

She is a keen rider and a founder-member of Hardwicke’s Equine Law Team

http://www.hardwicke.co.uk/people/hewson-barbara

28 posted on 05/20/2013 3:55:31 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Sherman Logan; Amberdawn

Well, adults having sex with 12-year-olds is sick now and it was sick then. I don’t give a rat’s butt what the law said.

When people were very poor, I’m sure it was not uncommon for girls to be given (sold) to older men in marriage, because girls were considered to be a financial liability. That doesn’t make it right.

Anybody comes near my granddaughter, and it won’t matter what the law says, he will be dead.


29 posted on 05/20/2013 4:29:00 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Good for you!


30 posted on 05/20/2013 4:30:20 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Pining_4_TX

And then we have the Profit Muhammed (peace be unto him) who married Aisha bint Abu Bakr when she was five and consummated he marriage when she turned nine...


31 posted on 05/20/2013 4:52:00 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

progressive disease....always fatal


32 posted on 05/20/2013 4:57:46 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Not always. This cat seems determined to go on forever.

33 posted on 05/20/2013 5:05:23 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

13 was OK for Mohammed. So was 6 I think.


34 posted on 05/20/2013 5:12:08 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone
They got married when she was six. He was decent enough to wait three years to consummate the marriage.
35 posted on 05/20/2013 5:15:12 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

sadly yes


36 posted on 05/20/2013 10:21:54 PM PDT by Nifster
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37 posted on 05/20/2013 10:26:56 PM PDT by narses
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To: presidio9

Congress wants to let all the mexicans into here so we might as well make our age of consent the same as Mexico, 12!


38 posted on 05/20/2013 10:27:07 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: presidio9

They call it Humbert’s Law.


39 posted on 05/20/2013 11:03:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: zeestephen
When bestiality is legalized, will the age of consent be measured in dog years?

Beat me to it.

40 posted on 05/21/2013 3:03:13 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Sherman Logan
Till the late 1800s the age of consent in England was 13, in Scotland 12, and in most US states 10(!) or 12.

IMO, it was a law that allowed adults to do what they wanted with children and the child had no say so in it.

Some countries still marry their children off.

41 posted on 05/21/2013 6:00:05 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Why are Hispanics being given special treatment?)
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To: Don Corleone
Once again, this goes to show that on the most fundamental level Obama does not understand America.

Aisha was at age 13, a widow, since she was 11 when Mohammed died...

the infowarrior

42 posted on 05/21/2013 6:58:23 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: verga
Great minds think alike, verga!
43 posted on 05/21/2013 11:03:21 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
Several years ago a Gay acquaintance asked why I was against gay. I told her that I would support it if she would support my right to marry my 1966 MGB, 5 year old Shitzu, and the really hot looking 30 year old next door, all at the same time.

I think she got the point since she never raised the issue again.

44 posted on 05/21/2013 11:27:26 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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