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Immigration bill backers say not all back-taxes will be paid
The Washington Times ^ | May 21, 2013 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 05/21/2013 11:05:44 AM PDT by jazusamo

The Senate immigration bill’s authors acknowledged Tuesday that their legislation does not require illegal immigrants to pay all back taxes, saying it would be too difficult to make them ante up everything they might owe.

Sen. Charles E. Schumer, the New York Democrat who is chief sponsor of the bill, said illegal immigrants by definition are living in the shadows, and requiring them to reconstruct their pay history could be tough — and potentially keep many of them from legalization.

“We all realize that the system is broken. We all realize that people did wrong things. And the goal is to set this right by letting those in the shadows come out,” Mr. Schumer said Tuesday as the Judiciary Committee plowed through more amendments to the 867-page immigration bill. “The worry I have here is that by being as rigid … as this amendment is, that it will delay and prevent many, many people from coming out of the shadows.”

The issue of back taxes is an emotionally charged part of the current immigration debate.

Mr. Schumer and the other members of the bipartisan “Gang of Eight” who wrote the immigration bill have said the legislation requires illegal immigrants to pay “a fine and back taxes,” and that is true — up to a point.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; backtaxes; corruption; democrats; fraud; gangof8; illegals; immigration
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No surprise that Chucky and his Gang believe that Sen. Lee's amendment to make illegal aliens pay all back taxes would make it too difficult to reward them with amnesty.
1 posted on 05/21/2013 11:05:44 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

BS that they will EVER pay the taxes on all their earnings.

Kill the Bill.


2 posted on 05/21/2013 11:09:22 AM PDT by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: jazusamo

But at least they’ll secure the border in 5 years..../sarc


3 posted on 05/21/2013 11:10:07 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: bestintxas
Kill the Bill.

Amen to that!

4 posted on 05/21/2013 11:10:50 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”The Senate immigration bill’s authors acknowledged Tuesday that their legislation does not require illegal immigrants to pay all back taxes, saying it would be too difficult to make them ante up everything they might owe.
Sen. Charles E. Schumer, the New York Democrat who is chief sponsor of the bill, said illegal immigrants by definition are living in the shadows, and requiring them to reconstruct their pay history could be tough — and potentially keep many of them from legalization.
“We all realize that the system is broken. We all realize that people did wrong things. And the goal is to set this right by letting those in the shadows come out,” Mr. Schumer said Tuesday as the Judiciary Committee plowed through more amendments to the 867-page immigration bill. “The worry I have here is that by being as rigid … as this amendment is, that it will delay and prevent many, many people from coming out of the shadows.”

Wow, they dont have to pay ‘back taxes’ because many wouldnt sign up if it was required.

Same with cutting off the free stuff(tax dollars), cant do that as they would ‘stay in the shadows’.

Who could have predicted this?? Not Rubio.

5 posted on 05/21/2013 11:11:09 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: jazusamo

Wow.

Good to be an illegal alien, huh Chuck?

A general amnesty for a laundry list of crimes, and best of all, you get citizenship...with no record.

Will he extend such privileges to the poor, pitiful citizens?

Or do we have to toe his line at the point of a gun?

Amazing that in American history, a massive group of criminals - foreign criminals at that - would have such privileges in law granted to them.


6 posted on 05/21/2013 11:11:39 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: jazusamo

KILL THE BILL OR KILL AMERICA... WE ARE WATCHING DC!

LLS


7 posted on 05/21/2013 11:12:36 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: jazusamo

The suggestion that illegals would pay back taxes is absurd on its face.
Learn English ? Who cares.


8 posted on 05/21/2013 11:12:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: jazusamo
They're supposed to let us know these things after the bill passes.
9 posted on 05/21/2013 11:13:23 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: jazusamo
I sent a letter to each of my Senators ~ both Democrats ~ asking them to send me information about how I could become an official illegal alien. The purpose would be to select my high-two tax years and get a REFUND!

One answered me with a meaningless statement about helping out illegals. The other hasn't answered.

Maybe I should send a letter to Chucky!

10 posted on 05/21/2013 11:13:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jazusamo

We will be motivated like never before in the 2014 midterms and we will primary any republican sumbich running that voted for this. We are watching you Senators! We are not as dumb as you think!


11 posted on 05/21/2013 11:14:05 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Of course only those illegals here before 2010 are eligible for the Rubio amnesty.

Love to know how they plan to administer that one.

12 posted on 05/21/2013 11:14:30 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: jazusamo

13 posted on 05/21/2013 11:18:36 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: jazusamo

Why do most congressmen and senators feel obliged to represent the interests of everyone in the world except tha average, normal, patriotic, honest, hardworking, taxpaying American citizens?


14 posted on 05/21/2013 11:18:50 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: jazusamo

So, the non-amnesty really is amnesty... the 14-year wait won’t really be a 14-year wait... the non-eligibility for government benefits is actually an eligibility after all... and all those back taxes... well...they aren’t going to have to be paid after all.

And Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio are staking their legacies on THIS?


15 posted on 05/21/2013 11:19:44 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: jazusamo

The border won’t be controlled either.


16 posted on 05/21/2013 11:21:30 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Iron Munro
Why do most congressmen and senators feel obliged to represent the interests of everyone in the world except tha average, normal, patriotic, honest, hardworking, taxpaying American citizens?

Yep... the age-old question. Yet... in 20 years, when the last vestiges of America are finally erased from existence, those same sellouts will be scratching their heads asking how that could happen.

17 posted on 05/21/2013 11:21:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Paladin2

Border control? Why, that’d be RACIST!


18 posted on 05/21/2013 11:22:29 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Regulator

What if EVERY citizen “voluntarily” decided not to pay their taxes. Would we get locked up? Would we lose our homes, our cars, our bank accounts?

Tell me once more, why should I be a citizen of Acirema?


19 posted on 05/21/2013 11:23:24 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: ScottinVA
"Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio" are on the radio all over America spouting complete BS.

Time to shut 'em down.

Not only is Rubio toasted, Ryan has fallen on the fork.

20 posted on 05/21/2013 11:23:46 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: jazusamo

They are still running that absurd, lying amnesty promoting ad with Ryan and Rubio during Rush’s show. And during the past couple of days, the Gang of Ocho has put the lie to just about everything in the ad.


21 posted on 05/21/2013 11:24:01 AM PDT by Will88
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To: sickoflibs

No, not Rubio.....the POS.


22 posted on 05/21/2013 11:24:08 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Will88; sickoflibs

” They are still running that absurd, lying amnesty promoting ad with Ryan and Rubio during Rush’s show. “

Rush could stop this, but apparently, he doesn’t care to stop it.


23 posted on 05/21/2013 11:26:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: jazusamo

I have run into illegals on construction crews. The North Carolina tags on the vehicle tipped me off. These guys are here to get rich in 10-15 years and go home. That is it. These guys do not want to stay here. I have been told that by at least 3 illegals. They want to get rich and go home. They use welfare and work under the table. They will never sign up for this scheme.


24 posted on 05/21/2013 11:29:51 AM PDT by mirkwood
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To: Iron Munro

That’s an excellent question.

With this immigration bill our elected officials are representing a minimum of 11 million (probably will wind up more like 25 to 30 million) illegal aliens that are law breakers. Many of them are actually criminals who’ve committed misdemeanors and felonies.

Many say we can’t deport these people for various reasons and one is the expense. Yet if this bill passes it will cost taxpayers many trillions to give amnesty to these law breakers, it’s really frustrating.

Any elected official voting for amnesty should be voted out of office in their next election...Period.


25 posted on 05/21/2013 11:31:19 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

In the meantime, Obama Crime Inc. runs amok.


26 posted on 05/21/2013 11:32:41 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: jazusamo
The Senate immigration bill’s authors acknowledged Tuesday that their legislation does not require illegal immigrants to pay all back taxes, saying it would be too difficult to make them ante up everything they might owe.

BUT YOU CAN BET YOUR ASS THEY WOULD GO AFTER ANY CONSERVATIVE. I SAY THIS BECAUSE I WE KNOW MANY, MANY DEMOCRATS HAVE A PROBLEM PAYING THEIR TAXES BUT THE IRS ISN'T BOTHERED WITH THAT.

27 posted on 05/21/2013 11:34:22 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: jazusamo
Call your senators...FWIW. Here's an email, with an 800#, from NumbersUSA:

You are part of our first line of defense against amnesty and 33 million work permits for foreign job seekers over the next 10 years and your help is needed this week. You have a Senator(s) on the Senate Judiciary Committee that will vote on S. 744 tomorrow, Wednesday, May 22.

Please phone your Senator TODAY
800-843-6735

All you have to say is something like:

"My name is _______ from ________. I'm calling to ask the Senator to please vote NO on S. 744 when the Judiciary Committee votes on final passage this week."

28 posted on 05/21/2013 11:35:15 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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29 posted on 05/21/2013 11:40:20 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo
"ANY Entitlement Funds AFTER AMNESTY shall be reuced until ALL Back Taxes are paid, PLUS, Penalties and Interest"

You wanna bring the cheap labor and votes out, then let the Democrats fund AMNESTY out of THEIR pockets, not OURS!

30 posted on 05/21/2013 11:42:28 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: jazusamo

They need to add a box to check, for us, so we can claim we’re Illegals, and we don’t wanna pay taxes; we just want Los Freebies.


31 posted on 05/21/2013 11:44:13 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: sickoflibs; Tennessee Nana; AuntB

What bill?

Ohaha will x-out and add whatever Third World pressure groups/govts want-—in exchange for votes.


32 posted on 05/21/2013 11:44:17 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: jazusamo

They never were going to pay back taxes. It was just a lie to try to make the bill more palitable for the masses. The rejection of amendment after amendment that would have actually made some headway in stemming the tide of illegals shows precisely what this bill is and always has been about-creating voters for the Democrat Party and the four useful idiots from the GOP side are just too stupid to see it.


33 posted on 05/21/2013 11:44:19 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: Regulator
What happened to Christian White Heterosexuals being treated EQUALLY, under the 14th Amendment?

Oh...that's right....it only applies to Blacks, Muslims, Faggots, and Dykes......Never mind.......

34 posted on 05/21/2013 11:45:45 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: SCHROLL

You’re precisely right on all points.

The Gang is only interested in amnesty and they even stated before amendments were started that they didn’t want any amendments that would hamper the passage of the bill.

I believe our four useful idiots think they may get some of the Hispanic vote by doling out amnesty, in my view they’re nuts.


35 posted on 05/21/2013 11:52:19 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: sickoflibs

As I said before, “It’s all about the benefits”.

Would the federal government forgive you if you were behind on your taxes?


36 posted on 05/21/2013 11:53:59 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: traditional1

BUMP!


37 posted on 05/21/2013 11:55:05 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo
does not require illegal immigrants to pay all back taxes, saying it would be too difficult to make them ante up everything they might owe.

Does any citizen ever get a reprieve from back taxes because "it would be too difficult"?

38 posted on 05/21/2013 11:56:05 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: jazusamo
Many say we can’t deport these people for various reasons and one is the expense.

Many of the same politicians and pro-illegal people who say the task of locating and deporting 11 (or 25 or 30) million illegals is so overwhelmingly huge and costly that it cannot be done, think it is perfectly reasonable for the government to register and track something like 300 million guns in the hands of citizens.

Many of them also think it is perfectly reasonable to print some kind of an ID code or serial number on every cartridge and bullet in the USA and to maintain a data base capable of tracking them back to the purchaser or owner.

A search on the web for the amount of ammunition sold annually in the USA gives a figure of about 10 to 12 billion per year. That leads me to believe there must be a stockpile of a trillion rounds or so already in the hands of citizens.

So some government officials think they can track and account for billions and billions of small, inanimate gun cartridges that just quietly sit there in an ammo can - not creating any kind of paper trail or data record.

But they swear we cannot find 11 million illegals who walk around, shop, use credit cards, drive cars, sign rental agreements and bank loans, cash checks, go to school and college, register for welfare, food stamps, housing assistance, get medical care, get tax refunds from the IRS, buy international money orders, have eMail accounts and receive mail through the US Post Office. Many illegals also have encounters with the law and their names are already know to ICE and law enforcement agencies.

PS - This is the same government that is building a data center in Utah capable of tracking and maintaining a record of every e-Mail, Tweet, digital message and telephone call made in the USA EVERY DAY.


39 posted on 05/21/2013 12:15:35 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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RE” They are still running that absurd, lying amnesty promoting ad with Ryan and Rubio during Rush’s show. “
.....
Rush could stop this, but apparently, he doesn’t care to stop it.

not only does Rush call Rubio a true conservative but I recently heard Levin call Rubio ‘My good friend’

Guess they think he might be the candidate in 2016.

40 posted on 05/21/2013 12:20:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: JCBreckenridge; Liz; Tennessee Nana; Will88; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

A few months ago I was posting that the GOP could craft an alternative bill that shows them as compassionate by giving a break to some of the illegals raised here as children to adults that :

1) Does not allow any government benefits
2) No citizenship
3) They are required to meet ALL obama-care mandates WITH THEIR OWN MONEY
4) They MUST PAY Federal INCOME taxes each year, no EITC
5) No crimes
6) They support all their dependents themselves
7) Graduated High school

And Dems WOULDNT touch it.

Alternatively above at link is a Dem/lib bill approved by Rubio, Mccain, Grahamnesty


41 posted on 05/21/2013 12:30:01 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

” not only does Rush call Rubio a true conservative but I recently heard Levin call Rubio ‘My good friend’”

Never thought I would ever write Rush or Levin off, but I have done so.

Strange days indeed

Most peculiar, momma !


42 posted on 05/21/2013 12:30:03 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: jazusamo
Anyone who actually believes that line that the amnestized illegals won't be able to get welfare have been doing too many drugs. They obviously don't know how the minds of the Federal boys in the black robes work. Can you say, "unconstitutional"? The Founding Fathers intentionally put into the Constitution that "mean-spirited" American taxpayers could not deny foreign invaders their "rights" to government freebies and handouts.

sarc/

43 posted on 05/21/2013 12:32:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: sickoflibs; JCBreckenridge; Liz; Tennessee Nana; Will88; stephenjohnbanker; ...

” 1) Does not allow any government benefits
2) No citizenship
3) They are required to meet ALL obama-care mandates WITH THEIR OWN MONEY
4) They MUST PAY Federal INCOME taxes each year, no EITC
5) No crimes
6) They support all their dependents themselves
7) Graduated High school”

Uh huh......

R O T F L M A O ~!!


44 posted on 05/21/2013 12:32:21 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; Liz

45 posted on 05/21/2013 12:37:14 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: jazusamo
Operation Wetback - just do it.

Operation Wetback

46 posted on 05/21/2013 12:38:48 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: mirkwood

I have discovered that too. Not one of them I talk to gives a rip about being American. Go to a western union on Friday afternoon and see how much $$ is going south.


47 posted on 05/21/2013 12:39:02 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: jazusamo

I demand not to have to pay taxes anymore.


48 posted on 05/21/2013 12:40:03 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: jazusamo
Immigration bill backers say not all back-taxes will be paid

A more accurate headline from the Times would have read:

Virtually no back taxes will be paid under amnesty for illegals bill. It's in the fine print.

49 posted on 05/21/2013 12:42:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Dismantle the IRS and the income tax. Impeach Obama and all his minions. Problem solved.)
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To: sickoflibs

“2) No citizenship”

If they are paying taxes as legal residents then they will become citizens.

“3) They are required to meet ALL obama-care mandates WITH THEIR OWN MONEY”

We don’t believe citizens should be paying for obamacare.

2+3 are garbage. The rest I agree with you.


50 posted on 05/21/2013 12:45:14 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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