Skip to comments.Schadenfreude! Libs Shocked to Find Their Fellow Libs Have Screwed Them with Obamacare
Posted on 05/21/2013 4:00:51 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: Labor unions are breaking with President Obama on Obamacare, and I tell you: One of the little pleasures in life, folks, is when liberals realize that their fellow liberals are screwing them, too, in addition to us.
It's just one of those little pleasures when these little libs -- the pajama-clad, kook extremists doing nothing all day but cashing welfare checks and writing comments on all their favorite blogs. When they realize that their fellow libs are targeting them, too, that's fun to watch. And from TheHill.com: "Labor unions are breaking with President Obama on Obamacare. Months after the presidents reelection, a variety of unions are publicly balking at how the [regime] plans to implement the landmark law.
"They warn that unless there are changes, the results could be catastrophic." These are unions that supported Obama, gave money to Obama, campaigned for Obama, beat up Tea Party people at town hall meetings for Obama. These are people that ran out and tried to intimidate people at town hall meetings or at voting places. "The United Food and Commercial Workers International Union (UFCW) -- a 1.3 million-member labor group that twice endorsed Obama for president -- is very worried about how the [Obamacare] law will affect its members' health care plans."
In a related story (I've got it somewhere here in the Stack, and I'll paraphrase it pending having it right in front of me), there are actually liberal bureaucrats in government in positions of administering the health care law who the reports say are literally shocked that premiums are not going down. They really believed it! So the story says. They really believed that Obamacare was going to expand coverage and make it cheaper, and expand treatment and make it better, and they are literally shocked.
They can't believe it, so says the story.
Folks, I'm not making this up, and this is not from an isolated kook-ball website. This is either TIME, USA Today, the Washington Post, or New York Times. It's something that everybody would consider a credible source. It's mainstream media to the extent that they're credible, but my point is it's not some unheard-of website putting this out. The people are shocked. As they're watching it be implemented, they can't believe what they're seeing. They can't believe it. I know what it is.
They can't believe that companies are having to go part time and reduce hours to stay in business. That's what it is. They are shocked to see that! They believe it now, but they are shocked to see what companies are having to do to stay in business. These nameless bureaucrats thought, so says the story, that this was gonna be a shot in the arm for small businesses. Well, it's what I was talking about in the first hour. Who are these people? These are the groupies, these are the sycophants, these are the acolytes.
They listened to Obama make all these blind, mindless promises, and they believed it! (Obama impression) "Your premium will come down $2500 -- and if you like your doctor, you get to keep your doctor! If you like your plan, you get to keep it!" They believed this stuff. They believed Obama was gonna make the sea levels go down. The believed Obama was gonna end global warming. They believed all this stuff! These are just full-fledged, mindless twerp, groupies.
These are the people that Obama puts in office or puts in these positions to execute his agenda, blindly following it no matter where it goes. But then when they see that what their Dear Leader told them isn't true, they're literally confounded. That's why I've always said, there's a bunch of different strata of liberals. It's like any other group. You've got the leaders, the strategerists, the organizers -- and then you've got the dupes and the true believers and the useful idiots, rank ametuers, who believe all this crap -- and they're shocked.
That's why I say: It's a fun thing to witness when liberals realize that they're getting screwed by their buddies.
RUSH: Now, here's that story I've done been looking for. Veronique de Rugy -- and I have no idea if I'm pronouncing her name right. I'm pretty sure I'm right on Veronique, but then it's little d-e, space, capital R-u-g-y. Could be De Rugy, could be De Rugy, could be De Rugy, De Rugy, De Rugy. I'm pronouncing it Veronique De Rugy. She posted a little bit at National Review Online in The Corner about a Wall Street Journal article that talks about the Law of Unintended Consequences.
"The short version is employers are flocking to lower-cost, bare-bones medical plans to avoid the increased costs and mandates of Obamacare." The point of the Wall Street Journal story is they've gone out and they've found all of these bureaucrats that helped to write the law who can't believe this is happening. They can't believe that these businesses are laying people off and converting people from full time to part time -- and furthermore, are buying "bare-bones medical plans."
Benefits advisers, insurance brokers, these bureaucrats, thought that Obamacare would broadly enrich benefits, that Obamacare would expand coverage, expand treatment options. They just can't believe that this is happening. That's the point of the Wall Street Journal story. I knew I had it in the Stack here somewhere. "[T]he Wall Street Journal asked some of the key planners of Obamacare, they seemed mystified that this might happen.
"'"We wouldn't have anticipated that thered be demand for these types of band-aid plans in 2014," said Robert Kocher, a former White House health adviser who helped shepherd the law. "Our expectation was that employers would offer high quality insurance."'" So once again (and there's a bunch of 'em quoted), here's Robert Kocher, "a former White House health adviser who helped shepherd the law through Congress," and is literally stunned that businesses are laying people off, converting full to part-time, and buying the cheapest medical plans they can.
They thought the opposite would happen, and they're literally, genuinely surprised.
Now, that's something I take schadenfreude in, folks.
Hee-hee-hee-hee-hee. That, yes siree, bob.
Andy in Asheville, North Carolina, wonderful to have you on the program. Hello, sir. I've been there.
CALLER: It's a wonderful place.
RUSH: I've been there. I toured the Vanderbilt mansion there.
CALLER: Yes. Wonderful place. I was actually calling because I find it amazing that it's not --
RUSH: Well, it's a little small, but I still wanted to see it. I'm sorry, what were you saying?
CALLER: I'm calling because I find it amazing that it's not more in the news. Let me say that I'm 33 years old, my first kid is a month old right now, and I work at two national restaurants, and it's actually policy in both of them right now to keep us below full time so that they don't have to provide the health care and everything. And, you know, I'll admit I spent my twenties partying and I'll be the first to say I don't deserve a handout. I don't want a handout, but now I'm trying to get my life in order, trying to get full-time jobs and everything and they just aren't out there and I find it amazing that it's not getting more coverage. My wife's mom is a liberal to the death, and still thinks that Obamacare is so great for everyone and there are no ill effects, and it's like I can't find full-time work right now because of the companies being afraid that they're gonna have to pay out the medical benefits to everyone.
RUSH: That's exactly what this Wall Street Journal story I just referenced is about. Your call could not be more timely.
CALLER: Yeah, I was listening to you while I was at one of my jobs that I drive around, and I heard that, and I was like, "That's me to a T." I don't understand why it's not getting more coverage. There are negative effects already happening from the Obamacare thing that no one is talking about.
RUSH: Well, let me tell you, it is starting to get more coverage. I mean, having this show up in the Wall Street Journal is not insignificant. And the story that I read earlier about the unions upset with Obama, that's in TheHill.com, which is widely read in Washington. I think the problems with Obamacare are obvious to everybody. And, Andy?
RUSH: I hate to tell you this. I mean, I really do. Part-time is gonna be the new normal, because of Obamacare. And you, by the accident of when you were born, are running head first right into it.
CALLER: Yeah, it's just amazing that -- I mean, and then, you know, it's hard with a one month-year-old child to try to balance two jobs, get the scheduling between the two jobs worked out so I can almost pull off a full-time work week.
RUSH: Now, you said that you work at two national restaurant chains?
RUSH: So you've got two jobs and they've both been converted to part-time?
RUSH: And if you add the work together you've essentially got one full-time job?
RUSH: But you don't have full-time benefits because --
CALLER: Yeah. No benefits at all.
RUSH: None at all. None at all. Because you've been downsized to part-time. Like how many hours a week at each place do you have?
CALLER: The one will not let you work more than 28, and the other one is 30, and they will cut you in the middle of a shift if you get to that number of hours there.
RUSH: I know. I know. They just send you home if you get close to the limit. So is it safe to say you're working a 55 to 58-hour week?
RUSH: Two jobs.
RUSH: And your wife just had a baby, so at age 33, I heard you say you spent your twenties partying, I'm assuming what you mean is that you've now, because of the birth of your child, you've gotten more serious.
CALLER: Yes, absolutely. And then I turn around to look, you know, to try get full-time work and everything like that, now it's time, and it's just not possible. Everywhere I go is like, "The best we can offer you is 20 hours a week."
RUSH: Andy, there's nothing I can specifically do, but I can tell you something. Over the 25 years I've been doing this program, there have been ups and downs in the US economy over that period. At one particular time it was an economic downturn that had as its primary feature white-collar people being laid off, and the media, by the way, back then, led by USA Today, incidentally, was ecstatic that it was finally management being laid off instead of the blue-collar workers so that management could find out what it's like. And so what happened was a lot of these people were in their forties and fifties and they're being laid off not from jobs, but from careers, and they weren't gonna be able to go out at their age and replace what they had lost because people younger than they are are willing to work for much less.
I did a consecutive three-day show on what these people were gonna do, and they called here and they said, "You know what? I'm gonna do what I've always wanted to do, finally. I've had to work because I've got life responsibilities, family responsibilities, and I've always had a hobby that I liked to do that I wish somebody would pay me for." So out of necessity for the first time in their lives, many of them found out what they really loved and wanted to do and tried to make a business out of it. And some of them, we kept in touch with them, and some of them succeeded, and they said they'd never been happier.
Now, that is still possible for people. What I want to tell you is, even now in this era of Obamacare, it's tougher than it's been for a lot of people, and there's nothing you can do about it, just happened to be when you were born, it's the reality you face, but there are still ways that you can overcome it. And you have to realize, Andy, that most of the limitations that you think you face are actually limitations you're putting on yourself and you may not know it.
RUSH: For example, are you willing to move?
CALLER: Oh, yeah.
RUSH: Okay. Well, that's a big hurdle. Do you know, is there something you really would love to do? Is there a career, job, whatever, activity you just love doing and you'd like to get paid for it?
CALLER: I'm already doing that. I mean, I love cooking, and that's what I do, that's my passion.
RUSH: All right. Well, I'm gonna tell you, the opportunity. The opportunity is still there because a lot of people are tuning out and getting depressed and deciding to go ahead and take the welfare check. There is still a chance. You can still overcome this. I've gotta run 'cause I'm way long on time, but you can overcome this, because this is still America, and people like you overcoming it are gonna help save this country. You can beat this, but it isn't gonna be easy. I wish you the best in it. Think positive.
Anybody got a picture of those “Yutes” grabbing their crotches and giving us the flicked finger of fate? It is probably what many here would say to the rank and file and their support of Lear Deader....
I pray that that young man gets a job that will include health benefits.
And as such they will blame the catastrophe on the liver lipped gods’ enemies. Rush of course has described this mindless tendency many times
It will be interesting to see as we get into 2014 just how many “29ers” have been added to the ranks.
I’m one of those 32 year olds save I’m not yet married, no kids and no debt.
Rush smacked this one out of the park.
I’m ecstatic that our story is finally getting told. Thank you Rush.
As for you, taildragger, how much is your soc sec check a month?
It can’t be true! s/c
I posted this on another site a few months ago.
When will employees wake up and find they are now making a cap salary. 0 has just made the work week 28 hours. A Loss of 120 dollars a week for the average worker @ 10 dollars per hour, $6240.00 per year. This now will lower purchases of durable goods by every American worker. Affecting the sales and production of products across the United States.
Now a worker @ 10 dollars an hour, @ 28 hrs will earn $1120.00
per month. The standard for food stamps in AR for one person I think is $1200 per month income! So now you have not only penalized the worker and thrown labor back to 1990 levels @ an average wage of $7.00 per hr. But will have now added working people to the food stamp roles. I can see where someone should have read the AHCA and saw this coming. All Obama did was to elevate the welfare State.
When will America wake up!
That is also based on Gross income, not net after taxes.
This doesn’t involve Obamacare..but I asked an Obama voter at work today and what she thought of the IRS scandal. She said she had no idea what I was talking about....... We are doomed!
Now, in a weak labor market, nobody has to compete for the better workers with anything ~ not even full time employment, or insurance, or health care, or parking spots.
ObamaKKKare makes things worse by penalizing full time workers, forcing employer provided health coverage to be gold plated, and several other things all equally bad.
First to lose the full time jobs were black people.
This may destroy the Democrat party.
No way, not that old!
You missed the reference. Here it is, to me it directed at the supporters of Obamacare who screwed us all....
Every time I see another business closing its doors, my heart gets heavier. I’m not happy that the low-information voters are having a hard time. The rest of us are going along for the ride. Forget hope and change; “Change it back!”
Ahh, k. Sorry!
Not all of us are wastrels. I also didn’t vote for Obama either in 2008 or 2012!
Sorry, but I get no joy in this. People are going to die because of Obamacare. And it’s not just going to be the morons who voted for Barry.
For MANY DECADES, liberals have HATED the idea that health insurance is tied to employment. They CANNOT STAND the idea of people working mainly for health insurance.
So, with Obamacare, they did not get everything they wanted (i.e., Single Payer), but they are well on their way of separating health care from employment. Once they succeed, the rest WILL fall into place.
Just wait until we see the nauseating 0-care commercials appealing to patriotism and adherence to the law all in an attempt to cajole the ignorant into signing up for the exchanges.
Even the lo-info voters will realize that it’s a lot easier to skip the whole insurance thing and sign up after getting sick. You think the IRS will go after the people making 50-70k if they don’t sign up? The cost to audit will be much less than any potential yield, and most of them will learn not to take a refund.
I think all the IRS is allowed to do is garnish income tax refunds. Is that correct?
I believe so, which makes civil disobedience much easier and widespread. The word will get out on how to play the whole thing before long. What do you think the average Joe when it comes time to pay the credit card bills, groceries, mortgage, car payment and he gets some crap in the mail urging him to sign up for an exchange and pay $1500 a month?
Every six months when I turn on Rush’s show to listen to part of a segment, I remember why I no longer listen.
Rush only carries the narrative of progressivism. Sure, he does it from the perspective of a conservative, but the message he pushes is “Don’t ever hope for victory, we’ll never get a home run. And don’t even dream about winning the World Series.”
Like today, Rush was so adamant about how the IRS scandal is not going to do any real damage to the Administration.
It’s that attitude of surrender, the same attitude that got him to secure Romney’s nomination.
The craptacularness was by design. They knew and counted on it being horrible, so that the government could sweep in and “fix it” with single payer.
“This doesnt involve Obamacare..but I asked an Obama voter at work today and what she thought of the IRS scandal. She said she had no idea what I was talking about”
I would bet any amount of money that had this been Bush, your coworker would not only be outraged beyond belief, but would also know every single detail (true or not), and would be able to give a monologue about it for 2 straight hours without repeating herself.
And if you play the withholding calculation just right, you can arrange for a nearly $0 refund.
It’ll really be kinda fun to watch the whole, useless government-services complex eat itself.
Rush doesn’t have a surrender attitude, you do.
If I was your coach I would sit your ass on the bench.
You don’t get it because you can’t handle the battle
over the long haul. If Limbaugh isn’t blowing happy
smoke up your butt then you think he is the problem?
Limbaugh ain’t your damn cheerleader. Get over it.
Unbelievable dude. The one man who has been kicking liberal’s asses inside and out for 25 years with brilliance and truth on a consistent basis, and you and your ilk can actually complain. Friggin unbelievable
You’re definitely (99% probability anyway) one of those who refused to vote for Romney out of your self-righteous “principles”, and look who’s still in office, thanks to your type.
Go eff yourself.
The one variable that could sway the results in any attempt to have Obama resign or impeached is the will of the people.
What do you do to change their will? You lower their morale.
Maybe it’s just coincidence, but what Rush said yesterday to his audience of millions of conservatives is exactly what I would want him to say if I were chief political advisor for the White House.
If Rush could be fooled into doing the one thing that would help liberalism most, it would be to lower morale among the group of Americans who are the vanguard of anti-progressivism.
I don’t know why Rush says what he says.
But he gave us Romney.
Now he’s telling us not to hope for the right thing to be done in response Obama’s actions through the IRS.
Rush is depressed or defeated. I haven't listened to him the past couple of days. I make a point of listening to Beck and Levin.
For those whose “morale” is dependent on Limbaugh or any
one person but themselves, well, they have already lost.
But, you are right. You don’t get, can’t get Rush. Stay away for
your own well being. Limbaugh is not only in Obama’s head, he
is in yours and a few others around here, as well. For me, I do
“get” him as I have since 1985 and I will continue to add his info
to all the rest that I gather. Good luck.
It’s not that Limbaugh has any effect on my morale. My morale on this remains, as can be seen plainly in my words, that something should be done about the behavior of IRS and administration officials.
The point is, Rush has an effect on the morale of the people listening to him—his general audience.
What you’re saying is that there’s something to “get” about Rush, but I’m going to hold you accountable by explaining to you that if this thing that you “get” were something rational, then you would be able to put it into words.
As you can see, it’s either nonexistent or irrational.
Are you flippin’ serious? Who appointed you “morale” police?
You want to know what it is that you don’t “get”? I won’t give you
the list but I will fill you in on a couple things. If you apply them
broadly you may someday get the broader picture.
First, when Limbaugh says (he has) “talent on loan from God” he
is saying ALL OF OUR TALENT is on loan from God, every one of
us, not him alone.....so, get off your ass and do something.
Second, all of Limbaugh’s bombastic bravado is about telling you
not to lose your sense of humor and don’t go around acting like
he is supposed to be some kind of a guru or god. Use his info,
his comparisons, and add it to your own library of knowledge.
And, ya know something else? Rush is probably right about all
these scandals. Most likely none of them will ever have legs.
If you had listened today you would have heard him say the
important job to do is to go after liberalism.
No more time for Limbaugh 101.....Leave me alone for a while.
Swaying public opinion with nationally broadcast commentary is not a phenomenon particular to the Rush Limbaugh show. It’s just part of the human condition.
But Rush himself is very aware of it. This is why I hold him accountable for what he says. I don’t think you would try to argue that he shouldn’t be.
All I’m saying is when I hear Rush telling his audience to go easy on Obama and the IRS, he sounds like one of Obama’s chief political advisors.
Go after liberalism? Rush knows as well as anyone today’s IRS is the epitome of it.
“All I’m saying is when I hear Rush telling his audience to go easy on
Obama and the IRS...”
I tell ya to listen to Limbaugh but you can’t bring yourself to.
Then I tell y”ou NOT to listen to him and you tell me you “hear”
Rush. Why bother w/a dialogue w/me? If I told you NOT to
jump off a tall building what would you do?
Go ahead and hold Rush accountable. I’m sure that will adversely
effect his sleep at night. If you can quote me a passage where
Limbaugh actually tells his audience to “go easy on Obama and
the IRS” and he is SERIOUS I will peruse it. Otherwise blather on
if you choose, my friend, but that return post you DON’T get will
be from me. I just don’t pity party that well these days.
It’s nothing personal against Rush. I like him and hope he gets out of the mess he’s in.
When Rush says something on the air, five million people hear it. “Nothing will happen to Lois Lerner, nothing will happen to Obama” creates a narrative among conservatives. It quiets their passion. The fire goes out.
Millions of people trust Rush Limbaugh. I know in his heart he wants to live up to that trust.
OK, against my better judgment I will attempt another stab
You say that Limbaugh is demoralizing his audience by suggesting
that they not expect the IRS or Obama to suffer any blowback re-
garding this scandal (and other scandals). In other words people
need to give up and let it go. Well, just what is Limbaugh’s over-
all goal? It is to “gain and hold the widest possible audience in
order to charge confiscatory advertising rates’. Do you think that
by demoralizing his base and, thus, turning them away he can
accomplish that goal? Do you think he is that stupid? He has been
doing this particular program since 1988, has made many millions
of dollars while making millionaires out of numerous advertisers
(think Sleeptrain, Snapple) and, yet, your wisdom surpasses his when
it comes to his program? I submit that you need to look elsewhere.
If Limbaugh wants his audience to forget this IRS scandal then why
is he still talking about it? You may listen but you obviously do not
listen very carefully. But, again, if he is toxic to your soul then you
should never listen to him.
What you’re saying is that when Limbaugh plays up the “unofficial head of the Republican party” role or when he claims the title of “America’s Anchorman,” he’s actually just putting up a pretense.
There’s really no way out of this.
In fact, I am saying that. Is it Limbaugh or humor, in general,
that you know nothing about? If you were ever a Limbaugh
listener you would know the last thing he wants is to be the
“unofficial head of the Republican party”. He plays with what
others, usually adversaries, give him. Democrats gave him that
title and he has had fun playing with it. And if I have to explain
that to you then you are just being a ridicules little kid and I am
not having fun anymore. It is like me describing how good rocky
road ice cream is while you cherry pick certain words I say to
tell me why I shouldn’t like rocky road ice cream. Just no valid
point to it.
Don’t listen to Rush. Listen to Rush. I dont care. You suck life
right out of the air with dependency issues and I see no need
to involve myself. I get paid for working with emotionally
disturbed teens so I already deal with people’s problems.
Please don’t forward any more posts, please.
I took a management class as part of my Master’s Degree program, and we looked at SAS in particular and their take on employee benefits. Among the many benefits was totally free on-site healthcare for employees and their families. I thought that looked pretty awesome. This one extremely liberal chick (fat, ugly, always in a bad mood) just grunted “Must be nice” as if those employees had won some kind of lottery rather than worked hard for good jobs.
That mentality boggles my mind.
In that case, you should just give me therapy.
Then maybe it won’t bother me as much when Rush does things like tell his audience to believe nothing serious can ever be done about Marxist cowards taking over the greatest nation in the history of mankind.