God’s Dupes?

Ligonier ^ | Ravi Zacharias

[SoFloFreeper]

What would that have to do with evidence or truth? If nothing, then why invoke it?

Are you saying “Someone can believe the moon is made of green cheese” and that is that belief is “not accessible” to anyone outside that person? If that is your belief, what does that have to do with the discussion Zacharias is making?

[SoFloFreeper]

Paul says in Romans that every man is without excuse...and that every man knows there is a God beyond himself....so I think you are correct.

By the way, I think the idea you just expressed is sometimes called “Pascal’s Wager”, or something like that...some 18th century French mathematician (?) who was a believer. He made this argument, or something like it.

[onedoug]

The entire nature of the universe, from the depths of the Planck scale to its largest dimensions, depends on the consistency - and the internal logic of number.

I think it approaches the reality of God in the mathematical limit...asymptotically. It's my primary physical reason for belief.

[HarleyD]

Thanks for the ping. I love Ligonier Ministries.

I just got done reading Jeremiah and Lamentations. He had such a deep love of God and of the Jews. Yet Jeremiah understood their absolute wickedness and rebellion. If one has any doubts about the sovereignty of God, they should read Lamentations, something you don't get in Sunday School these days.

Lam 2:17 The LORD has done what he purposed; he has carried out his word, which he commanded long ago; he has thrown down without pity; he has made the enemy rejoice over you and exalted the might of your foes.

Lam 2:18 Their heart cried to the Lord. O wall of the daughter of Zion, let tears stream down like a torrent day and night! Give yourself no rest, your eyes no respite!

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Lam 3:21 But this I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:

Lam 3:22 The steadfast love of the LORD never ceases; his mercies never come to an end;

Lam 3:23 they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness.

Darkness hides us from the Light of the world. And the darker our hearts, the more He is hidden. We can say all sorts of things about God and deny Him all we want, but in the end it will bring our ruin and destruction.

He is there and He is not silent.