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Darrell Issa: Lois Lerner lost her rights
Politico ^ | May 22, 2013 | Rachael Bade

Posted on 05/22/2013 12:34:42 PM PDT by Second Amendment First

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To: American Constitutionalist

Like that is new? We both know they ignore us. We vote for their lesser evils no matter what they do. We proved that a few months back.

Look at the screaming fits when Newt discussed defunding depts in the primaries. They should. But they wont...for a reason. They want them.


281 posted on 05/22/2013 2:13:44 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Lesser of two evils ? as in ? Sir ? do you want your hemorrhoid remove with or without being put under and pain medication. ?
282 posted on 05/22/2013 2:16:07 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

Yup. Pretty much that exactly. Because the bowel movement is a lot worse!


283 posted on 05/22/2013 2:17:27 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: PuzzledInTX

I meant to type Gowdy. I wuz on a friend’s smart phone and have really fat thumbs and am too dumb to know how to easily go back and change one letter.


284 posted on 05/22/2013 2:21:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Mamzelle
Has anybody seen anything written about the ***demeanor*** of these IRS witnesses? I mean, I have been struck at the contempt they do not hesitate to show, just from their body language and tone

I've certainly noticed, esp. Miller and this Lerner bitch. Walking advertisements for abolishing the IRS.

285 posted on 05/22/2013 2:22:00 PM PDT by Marathoner (Impeach Obama, Holder, Big Sis, and throw in IL Gov Quinn for good measure)
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To: Norm Lenhart
" Yup. Pretty much that exactly. Because the bowel movement is a lot worse! "

Oh yes it is baby ! Obamacare and these present scandals.
286 posted on 05/22/2013 2:23:23 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: MortMan
"Once a perp is arrested, they are advised of their Miranda rights, and anything they say thereafter is eligible for use. They do not have to specifically state that they waive their rights - they can do so by evidence of their actions."

After they are arrested, perps don't waive their fifth amendment rights by speaking except to the extent they speak. Answering one question does not cause a perp to waive their right to refuse subsequent questions.

Waiving miranda rights

287 posted on 05/22/2013 2:23:41 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SE Mom
So her lawyer told Issa she would make no statement nt and then she pops out with one? WTH?

That's the definition of getting rolled. Nothing that the lawyer said in private is actionable, but it set in motion a thought process in Issa that caused him to be caught off guard during the hearing. He fell for the misdirection. He was distracted by the left hand and didn't see what the right hand was doing.

Remember how Pelosi bragged about rolling Boehner over tax increases? Those optics are what the Democrats live for, and Issa gave them another theater today.

Republicans will always give the extra benefit of doubt, and Democrats will always know it and count on it, and then play it to their advantage.

-PJ

288 posted on 05/22/2013 2:23:49 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Second Amendment First
Here is a brief analysis by the WSJ Law Blog of whether she waived her 5th Amendment rights. It's certainly not a clear-cut case, either way.
289 posted on 05/22/2013 2:23:56 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Toespi

She’s in need of a new pair of Depends ? or Fruit of the Loom ?


290 posted on 05/22/2013 2:24:22 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Quick Shot

Not only did she testify about how innocent she is, she also took a shot at the committee and then tried to go Fifth Amendment. She was coached to do that.


291 posted on 05/22/2013 2:24:23 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: eyedigress
It never pays to talk to the cops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE

292 posted on 05/22/2013 2:24:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Second Amendment First

Finally a Repub with some balls!!!!


293 posted on 05/22/2013 2:24:31 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Second Amendment First

294 posted on 05/22/2013 2:26:48 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Second Amendment First

Ha! Ha! Obama!...


295 posted on 05/22/2013 2:27:38 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Paladin2

I did not talk to cops.

A prosecutor in a courtroom asked questions to me that I refused to answer.

The case was dismissed.


296 posted on 05/22/2013 2:28:40 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: eyedigress
A prosecutor is just a cop on verbal steroids.

Good for you. Prosecutors are no better than cops when it comes to convicting the innocent (see Nifong and that witch Corey).

297 posted on 05/22/2013 2:32:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Truth is a Weapon

That’s a fact. If you want to invoke, remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you, like saying you didn’t do anything illegal.

That’s testimony, and you can’t have it both ways.

I’m sort of amazed Issa had this planned, or was savvy enough to get this done.

Now, from here, she will have to listen to questions, and she can waive each time she wants to invoke.

If the questions are reasonable, it’s not going to play well on national TV for her to invoke before Congress. She hasn’t even been charged with anything yet, and she’s invoking.

Not good, since there’s no jury but the one of public opinion involved here.


298 posted on 05/22/2013 2:34:41 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

The instant she said ,”I haven’t done anything wrong,” she opened the door to cross examination on that very point. That means she waived the privilege.


299 posted on 05/22/2013 2:37:29 PM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: editor-surveyor; Truth is a Weapon
"Partial testimony is fairly common."

That's what I think. I'm pretty sure I remember Watergate hearings when they would be answering a string of questions and get to a subject matter where they would start taking the 5th. and then they'd answer other questions, and then take the 5th.

Besides our rights are not something we should be able to unintentionally waive. If all or nothing is current procedure in any court, then it should be incumbent on the court to explain the implications before someone testifies. We shouldn't have to be lawyers to retain our rights.

300 posted on 05/22/2013 2:38:05 PM PDT by DannyTN
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