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SCANDALOUS: IRS WILL NOT RETURN 60,000,000 Medical Records It Stole From California Company
Gateway Pundit ^ | May 22, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 05/22/2013 11:54:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

They stole 60,000,000 medical records – And won’t give them back.

Last week news broke that the IRS was facing a class action lawsuit over allegations that it improperly accessed and stole the health records of some 10 million Americans, including medical records of all California state judges. In a case involving solely a tax matter involving a former employee of the company, these agents stole more than 60,000,000 medical records of more than 10,000,000 Americans, including at least 1,000,000 Californians. The lawsuit by John Doe Company against 15 John Doe IRS agents is seeking punitive damages for constitutional violations, as well as $25,000 “per violation per individual” in compensatory damages.

But the story does not end there. The IRS to this day is refusing to return the records including intimate medical records to the company. Courthouse News reported:

Even though defendants knew that the records they were seizing were not included within the scope of the search warrant, the defendants nonetheless searched and seized the records without making any attempt to segregate the files from those that could possibly be related to the search warrant. In fact, no effort was made at all to even try maintaining the illusion of legitimacy and legality.

After being put on notice of the illicit seizure, the IRS agents refused to return the records, continued to keep the records for the prying eyes of IRS peeping toms, and keep the records to this very day. The records may concern the intimate medical records of every state judge in California, every state court employee in California, leading and politically controversial members of the Screen Actors Guild and the Directors Guild, and prominent citizens in the world of entertainment, business and government, from all walks of life…

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: internalrevenue; irs; irsmedicalrecords; irsobamacare; irsscandal; irsscandals; medicalrecords; obama; obamacare
How is this different from Heinrich Himmler or Felix Dzerzhinsky?
1 posted on 05/22/2013 11:54:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think the IRS-Tea Party is the warm up, but this is the real one that will hit with people. People can say, "yeah, its wrong, but I am not a Tea Party type," but now that ObamaCare is coming, this scandal affects every single person. And it is as blatant as it can possibly be. We predicted that your medical records would be violated, but is so in your face, people will notice it, if it is reported.
2 posted on 05/22/2013 11:59:08 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d pursue that as a HIPPA violation.


3 posted on 05/23/2013 12:19:08 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The real story here is that our new insurgent government doesn’t care what the laws are even when it’s exposed that what they did was illegal. “The law is irrelevant” they say, and without shame.


4 posted on 05/23/2013 12:37:10 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well now, I notice that prominent people in Entertainment are mentioned, Judges, etc.

What I want to know is are these records conservative types or useful idiot types?


5 posted on 05/23/2013 12:38:32 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

HIPAA was Clinton’s contribution to this whole confidentiality charade and the start to this whole healthcare mess. Reportedly some Judges’ records are involved in this most recent theft. I do believe Kaiser was mentioned as the company involved. If it moves far enough up the food chain from we little people maybe something will be done.

OTOH I’m sure BO will take care of all of this the next time he goes to California for a fundraiser including bringing back copies of the electronic records with a note saying all the original information was destroyed and he will make sure it doesn’t happen again. /s/


6 posted on 05/23/2013 12:44:44 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: greeneyes

What I want to know is are these records conservative types or useful idiot types?

with 60 mill records bound to be some some of both


7 posted on 05/23/2013 12:45:59 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

RT
“MATT DRUDGE ‏@DRUDGE 8h White House official will know the health status of a reporter grilling him... “Mr. Woodward, do you really want to go there?”

MATT DRUDGE ‏@DRUDGE 9h Hackers will finally know if Bill Clinton has herpes. Hillary takes Topomax. When Pelosi had Botox. Obama’s valium dose. Biden’s latest MRI.”


8 posted on 05/23/2013 1:11:58 AM PDT by Selene
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

HIPPA like EMTALA and any number of other Federal Diktats do not apply to the Federal Government.


9 posted on 05/23/2013 1:36:48 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since the records are probably digital, “giving them back” is meaningless.

Prosecute and hang.


10 posted on 05/23/2013 1:46:28 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The names?


11 posted on 05/23/2013 2:04:31 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Abolish the IRS

Impeach Obama

Government is the problem

Democrats are the problem and the enemy of the individual


12 posted on 05/23/2013 2:20:33 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Congress has the power and authority to completely abolish the Tax Courts and force IRS cases into the regular justice system.

That is only one of many things that need to happen ASAP.


13 posted on 05/23/2013 3:33:08 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

obamacare is rape. This is not going to end well unless the Republicans get some balls and bring these crooks to justice.


14 posted on 05/23/2013 3:39:36 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: Hardraade

Can 666 be far behind? Digital signature replaces “show me your papers.”


15 posted on 05/23/2013 3:40:36 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now that the actors might be involved, they fall out of love with their beloved Obama.

Ah, who am I kidding.


16 posted on 05/23/2013 3:49:06 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The IRS didn’t do this, individuals did. I’m sure this is a felony so why aren’t they in jail?


17 posted on 05/23/2013 4:02:54 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Grams A

HIPAA is nothing but a paper tiger that has cost our health care system BILLIONS and MEANS NOTHING. It just means your medical records are between me, thee, and EVERYONE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Maybe folks will finally understand!!


18 posted on 05/23/2013 4:35:36 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Vince Ferrer

“We predicted that your medical records would be violated, but is so in your face, people will notice it, if it is reported. “

Sorry, those same people who let the IRS off on the Tea Party investigation will be the same people who are too stuipid to figure out what this really means for them. After all, their saviour, obama, would never do anything to hurt them. They just want and need the free stuff.


19 posted on 05/23/2013 4:43:57 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Nailbiter

Soooo maybe some of the useful idiots will be angry too.LOL


20 posted on 05/23/2013 4:52:37 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

When the DOJ and the US Attorney’s are corrupt, when any corrective action will be collective and not against individual violators, when the government happily will spend your money to defend against you for years, everyone has to ask if the solution can come from within the system.


21 posted on 05/23/2013 4:56:49 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Duh! Get an indictment, issue an arrest warrant and send in your SWAT team to arrest the IRS criminals.


22 posted on 05/23/2013 5:25:17 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How is this different from Heinrich Himmler or Felix Dzerzhinsky?

They called it Gestapo and KGB respectively. We call it DHS but they all act tyrannical.

23 posted on 05/23/2013 5:37:37 AM PDT by Rapscallion (In Benghazi they died; Obama, Clinton and Rice lied. God may forgive. I do not.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
I’d pursue that as a HIPPA violation.

THE IRS IS A CRIMINAL ORGAIZATION!

24 posted on 05/23/2013 5:48:22 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: unixfox

If I could type that what read ORGANIZATION! Geez.


25 posted on 05/23/2013 5:49:25 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wasn't a national database of all your medical records one of their selling points of Obamacare? My thought when I heard this was, "Are you crazy? This is a BAD idea and will NOT end well."
26 posted on 05/23/2013 5:58:45 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: unixfox

Maybe they have an opening for a proof reader...


27 posted on 05/23/2013 6:00:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IRS = KGB.

Same thing.

Big Brother is watching you.


28 posted on 05/23/2013 6:39:02 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: Vince Ferrer

This is why I use facebook, even though some on this site would advise against it. I repost articles like this. It is probably the ONLY source of conservative news that most of the liberals on my “friends” list will ever see. Almost all young liberals use facebook, so we FReepers could make a big difference if we used these social networking sites as a method to spread our side of the news.


29 posted on 05/23/2013 6:42:49 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
At this point, what difference does it make®. They will soon have all medical records. Cf. Michelle Malkin The Obama crony in charge of your medical records. Another radical billionaire, Judy Faulkner, gorging at the gov't trough by selling you into serfdom.
30 posted on 05/23/2013 6:43:49 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything. Bolshies' gonna bolsh.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Travis McGee
IRS WILL NOT RETURN 60,000,000 Medical Records It Stole From California Company

Of course.

Now everyone can honestly say they know what it is like to live in the lead-up to Nazi Germany.

We will be written about in the history books, should the new Fascist American Government be defeated. They will chronicle the oppressions and outright lawless behavior of the American agencies in the early stages. They will chronicle the use of assassination drones to take out any conservative leaders. They will chronicle the intimidation, then outright seizure, of the press. They will chronicle the millions upon millions who are denied healthcare because of political leanings. When the food shortages hit, and the American agencies seize control of food, they will chronicle the mass-starvation of those people who's political persuasion or skin color (white) are not currently popular.

they will shake their heads, and they will ask, "Who did not see this? Why did they not try to stop these holocausts?"

31 posted on 05/23/2013 6:51:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: unixfox

Too funny. That kind of stuff always happens to me too.


32 posted on 05/23/2013 6:53:37 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: browniexyz
HIPAA is nothing but a paper tiger that has cost our health care system BILLIONS and MEANS NOTHING. It just means your medical records are between me, thee, and EVERYONE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Maybe folks will finally understand!!

I work in Federal government, and I am here to tell you that HIPAA (and PII... Personally Indentifying Information) are very severely restricted and regulated. Encryption is always used at the database level, so that only authorized individuals in that government can view it, and you must have a very good and justified reason. Generally, requests for access are always reviewed with great skepticism.

Now, that is not to say that a corrupt leader or highlevel person cannot cause great damage to the population by ordering access (without the similar skeptical review) and abusing that access....

33 posted on 05/23/2013 6:57:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
The real story here is that our new insurgent government doesn’t care what the laws are even when it’s exposed that what they did was illegal. “The law is irrelevant” they say, and without shame.

As Levin says frequently, under Obozo we have entered the post-Constitutional era in America. Holder and Obozo are only going to enforce laws on the books that they LIKE, and the rest of them, oh well.

Big Sis: Obama Admin Can Pick Which Laws to Enforce 24 Apr 2013
34 posted on 05/23/2013 7:08:58 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Democrat_media
Abolish the IRS
35 posted on 05/23/2013 7:11:29 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The records may concern the intimate medical records of ... members of the Screen Actors Guild and the Directors Guild, and prominent citizens in the world of entertainment

Ewww. Ick. If I were an IRS agent I'm not sure I'd want to stumble across those records by accident while having my morning coffee and danish.

36 posted on 05/23/2013 7:19:45 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the number is 60,000,000 then it has to be Kaiser.

I worked for an elected official a few years ago and while we were touring one of their new facilities they proudly showed how any one of their doctors in any corner of the country could access someone’s medical records from any one of their computers, explaining that if someone were in an accident on vacation somewhere how useful all that would be. I shuddered and thanked God that I’m not a Kaiser patient.


37 posted on 05/23/2013 7:23:04 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Lazamataz

So.....we all need to report our medical information to the FEDERAL government.... BUT it’s “encrypted,” only “authorized” people will look at it, and then under only VERY STRICT conditions.... so, remind me, WHY does the information need to be reported to begin with? Sounds like not much use is being made of it....except POLITICAL use. And, we have set up third-party payment programs that just invite fraud.


38 posted on 05/23/2013 7:44:34 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: browniexyz
So.....we all need to report our medical information to the FEDERAL government.... BUT it’s “encrypted,” only “authorized” people will look at it, and then under only VERY STRICT conditions.... so, remind me, WHY does the information need to be reported to begin with? Sounds like not much use is being made of it....except POLITICAL use. And, we have set up third-party payment programs that just invite fraud.

Well, not sure about this side of the Federal world (the IRS) but I do know the CDC uses HIPAA-sensitive information to discover trends, risk-factors, and possible preventions and cures for disease.

39 posted on 05/23/2013 8:01:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Kozak
HIPPA like EMTALA and any number of other Federal Diktats do not apply to the Federal Government.

No offense, but it would build your credibility to spell it right: HIPAA.

Second, I work a lot with HIPAA-sensitive (and PII) information in a Federal role, and I have never heard that Federal agencies do not have to comply with HIPAA. In fact, they are paying me quite a tidy some of money to make sure that the websites I am tasked with, comply.

As a matter of fact, the language specifically INCLUDES some government programs and agencies BY NAME.

40 posted on 05/23/2013 8:11:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How is this different from Heinrich Himmler or Felix Dzerzhinsky?

Well... it was much harder back then to get 'paper' records on everyone. Today it all fits on one CD.

41 posted on 05/23/2013 8:27:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: gotribe

Maybe 666 was just a typo and it was really GGG.

Global Government Group.


42 posted on 05/23/2013 8:29:35 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: gotribe
obamacare is rape.

Good thing we have government funded Abortion.

43 posted on 05/23/2013 8:30:54 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So the Tea Party is suing the IRS in California eh?

Hope those cases are judged the right way. Be a shame if medical info began leaking out on some of those judges. :)


44 posted on 05/23/2013 9:02:30 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: freeangel
They just want and need the free stuff.

Wait till they hear bout the new food program in Obama Care!


45 posted on 05/23/2013 3:27:52 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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