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Criminality Appears To Lie at the Heart of the IRS Scandal
New York Sun ^ | May 23, 2013 | Lawrence Kudlow

Posted on 05/23/2013 4:19:57 AM PDT by opentalk

When you get right down to it,the political targeting and stalling of tax-exempt applications by the IRS was an effort to defund the Tea Party.

Rick Santelli,one of the Tea Party founders and my CNBC colleague,was the first to make this point. I’ve taken it a step further: The IRS was taking the Tea Party out of play for the 2012 election,as it looked to avoid a repeat of 2010 and another Tea Party landslide.

… But there can be only one reason for the stalled-out approval process for conservative groups. The IRS was trying to put them out of business. Thus far,there’s not one wit of contradictory evidence.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


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1 posted on 05/23/2013 4:19:57 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Obama’s IRS rigged the election for the democrats/socialists in Congress and for Obama.The socialist Obama must be impeached and imprisoned for this criminal abuse of power

Money quote from the Article:

“I’ve taken it a step further: The IRS was taking the Tea Party out of play for the 2012 election,as it looked to avoid a repeat of 2010 and another Tea Party landslide.”

2 posted on 05/23/2013 4:23:32 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: opentalk

3 posted on 05/23/2013 4:25:08 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: opentalk

When your philosophy cannot stand in the arena of ideas, you must silence all opposition.

We see this in the IRS scandal....
We see this in the AP/FoxNews scandal...
And we see this in the intimidation tactics of the DHS...

I keep bringing up the DHS, because the truth is somebody in DHS is issuing orders of intimidation against peaceful protesters and we are either going to let this continue or we are going to demand they stop targeting Tea Party, Catholics, Pro-life groups, etc. We chuckle to ourselves about this targeting by DHS, but folks ...wake-up they are not playing games. They are deliberately trying to provoke an incident to have a reason to crackdown. We either understand this intimidation by the government is a violation of our Rights or we don’t really understand our Rights.


4 posted on 05/23/2013 4:28:51 AM PDT by EBH (The “government” that sits in Washington, D.C. is not the United States government.)
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To: opentalk

Time to get rid of regularly scheduled elections and do RECALL ELECTIONS at any time!!! It’s time to recall this President — he has earned a vote of NO CONFIDENCE


5 posted on 05/23/2013 4:30:31 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: opentalk
Here is one thing that needs to be done:

Any government employee that testifies that "I don't know" When they are in charge and paid very well to oversee the department they are running, then should be required to return ALL money they have received.
It might trigger some memory. . . . .

6 posted on 05/23/2013 4:30:55 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We sent REPS to DC to handle our problems. They have done NOTHING. Time to March with pitch forks.)
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To: opentalk

To understand leftists, you have to understand that with them there is no right or wrong. There is only what promotes the cause.


7 posted on 05/23/2013 4:31:44 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: browniexyz

Recall? ~ you need SEVERAL Constitutional amendments before you can do that ~


8 posted on 05/23/2013 4:33:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: opentalk

IF LIBERALISM IS SO DAMN WONDERFUL WHY DO THEY HAVE TO RESORT TO THESE TACTICS TO FORCE IT ON US?

All they have to do is point to all the other socialist paradises (like Russia, or China, or North Korea, or ...)


9 posted on 05/23/2013 4:34:09 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: browniexyz
"he has earned a vote of NO CONFIDENCE"

Only from us the informed voter who saw through the fraud from the very start. We all thought he had NO CHANCE in '08 and knew he would be sent packing after 4.
His supporters, the uninformed love him.
They get FREE stuff that the mean ole conservatives will take away.

10 posted on 05/23/2013 4:36:26 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We sent REPS to DC to handle our problems. They have done NOTHING. Time to March with pitch forks.)
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To: Democrat_media

Rogue? Fox 19 has identified 6 people involved in IRS scandal and they all have DIFFERENT managers

http://www.therightscoop.com/rouge-fox-19-has-identified-6-people-involved-in-irs-scandal-and-they-all-have-different-managers/


11 posted on 05/23/2013 4:43:09 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: I want the USA back
To understand leftists, you have to understand that with them there is no right or wrong. There is only what promotes the cause.

We are facing those for whom the end justifies the means. We have to oppose them and prevent them from making any progress toward their goals. We have to move the ball away from the goal any time we can. There is no compromise with these people, and they will not accept a status quo 30%, 50%, or even 80% of the way to their socialist dream. We have to demand zero socialism and return our country to that level of freedom.

We have to re-enter the education system as teachers and professors and teach the value of freedom. We have to make sure we are the biggest influence on our children's lives and teach them not just that freedom is precious but why it is so important. We have to teach our children why the leftist framing of pro-socialism arguments is both morally wrong and harmful even to those the left pretends to care about.

12 posted on 05/23/2013 4:43:17 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: opentalk

Criminality abounds in this vile regime

  

It's not just the IRS, but Holder's D.O.J. too...

  


eric holder gun corrupt  investigate investigation stalin mad obamunism leading
13 posted on 05/23/2013 4:45:26 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: opentalk

The IRS was trying to put them out of business.
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I would say they did a pretty good job of it.

The problem is Obama voters in Government.
In Japan they start educating their Government workers in grade school, they pick the brightest and work with them.

Here we pick people to work in Government from the bottom of the class rolls. We get people who cannot find work anywhere else. We get them by Affirmative Action.
When you fill an agency with them it is natural they work for what benefits them. The on top of that we let them join a Union which gives money to support a Boss that will give them more Bennies.


14 posted on 05/23/2013 4:49:07 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Democrat_media
A few of the many past articles that now make more sense:

The Decline and Fade of the Tea Party Nov 2011

… But while the Tea Party undoubtedly—and unfortunately—remains influential within the party, for a number of reasons it won't have the same driving, central role in GOP primary politics. Indeed, if 2010 was the year of the Tea Party, 2012 is shaping up to be the cycle in which the establishment strikes back

Democrats declare the tea party ‘over’ Nov 2012

… The 2012 elections have been the undoing of the 2010 Tea Party tsunami that crashed upon Washington. The Tea Party is over.

15 posted on 05/23/2013 4:52:51 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
We already know that IRS GOVERNMENT employees gave heavily to President Obama in 2008 and 2012, and very little to candidates Senator McCain and Governor Romney. But who was the quarterback in all this? Who was managing the targeting operation in the bowels of the IRS, DOJ, FBI, EPA, OSHA, DHS, SUPREME COURT, SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE, SECRET SERVICE, STATE DEPARTMENT, CONGRESS?

The rot is in every single agency, and all three branches, and both political parties.

That's how we wound up with a Kenyan, affirmative-action usurper squatting in the White House with his forged birth certificate, forged selective service form, and his stolen social security numbers.

Every government agency went along with the fraud.

So much for the birthers being conspiracy nuts. There were no shortage of criminals in the government (State and Federal) who were willing to help him out.

Where are all the people who kept saying that there would have to be a GIANT CONSPIRACY of people for the birthers to be correct? Well here you are. The FRICKIN' IRS conspired against the right and the Tea Party. The FRICKEN' IRS. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that many, many people have been conspiring for a while now and that's just the tip of the iceberg here.

16 posted on 05/23/2013 4:56:54 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: opentalk

We elect people to Congress to represent us. If government employees lie to the Congress, then they are lying to us.


17 posted on 05/23/2013 4:59:11 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: EBH
.....silencing opposition is the name of their game......

<><> We see this in the IRS scandal....

<><> We see this in the AP/FoxNews scandal...

<><> And we see this in the intimidation tactics of the DHS...

... we are either going to let this continue or we are going to demand they stop targeting Tea Party, Catholics, Pro-life groups, etc.....they are not playing games. They are deliberately provoking an incident to have a reason to crackdown (DHS has millions of rounds of ammo). We must understand this is a violation of our Rights.....

WHAT YOU DESCRIBE IS A CLEAR "PATTERN" OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR. Under RICO laws this is considered "racketeering" and is eminently prosecutable. Note: Anyone can file a RICO suit (how-to's online)

PAPER TRAIL PATTERN OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR CLEARLY ESTABLISHED At ATF, at DHS, at Justice, at DOE, at FBI, at Boston and Benghazi, at the Federal Reserve Bank, at Solyndra, the answer’s always the same: “Oops. We made a mistake.” And they don’t just make one mistake; they make a series of mistakes, they obfuscate, then lie, then lie about the lie.......

============================================

Also pertinent: we need to get Cong Trey Gowdy and others to look into the practice of "pencil-whipping."

FReeper showme_the_Glory reminds us of the practice of "pencil whipping."

DEFINITION To complete an official form, record, or document without having performed the implied work or without supporting data or evidence. Pencil-whipping an official document incurs jailtime. As well, faslsifying official documents incurs 4-5 felonies and could involve criminal forgery.

Have at it, Trey.

18 posted on 05/23/2013 4:59:19 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: EBH
Systemic...top down. This must be what they meant by Chicago politics.

The corruption undermines our whole government system...moves it toward a direction like Mexican government, no credibility, truth or trust.

19 posted on 05/23/2013 5:00:19 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Rick Santelli,one of the Tea Party founders and my CNBC colleague,was the first to make this point. I’ve taken it a step further: The IRS was taking the Tea Party out of play for the 2012 election,as it looked to avoid a repeat of 2010 and another Tea Party landslide.
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With all due respect to Kudlow and Santelli, it has been common knowledge here at FR for some time that defunding the Tea Parties during the 2012 election cycle was the driver behind the actions taken by the IRS.


20 posted on 05/23/2013 5:03:19 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: opentalk

Watergate in 1972 was about political dirty tricks. So is this. Appoint a special prosecutor now. It will save millions and perhaps billions of dollars.


21 posted on 05/23/2013 5:13:27 AM PDT by Rapscallion (In Benghazi they died; Obama, Clinton and Rice lied. God may forgive. I do not.)
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To: EBH
somebody in DHS is issuing orders of intimidation against peaceful protesters

DHS is the new American Gestapo run by Janet "Himmler" Napolitano. More (worse) to come from her up ahead.

22 posted on 05/23/2013 5:17:07 AM PDT by Rapscallion (In Benghazi they died; Obama, Clinton and Rice lied. God may forgive. I do not.)
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To: opentalk

2014 could very well the revenge of the TP movement election.


23 posted on 05/23/2013 5:19:45 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: I want the USA back

There is no understanding or reasoning leftists. Its like dealing with a bully that looks you in the face and says “ I DID IT, SO WHAT. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?” We need to stop the pigs from destroying our country, but how?


24 posted on 05/23/2013 5:19:46 AM PDT by redhawkruger
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To: Bon mots

The revolt begun.


25 posted on 05/23/2013 5:20:42 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: DeaconRed

Yes, I agree.


26 posted on 05/23/2013 5:21:37 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: browniexyz
Time to get rid of regularly scheduled elections and do RECALL ELECTIONS at any time!

In case you missed it, there is no recall election of the president, even Obama. The process we use in America is called IMPEACHMENT. Charges are brought by the House of Representatives. Trial is held in the Senate with the Chief Justice of the USSC acting as judge. If he is convicted, the president IS removed. Then other charges, perhaps criminal, may be brought against him.

27 posted on 05/23/2013 5:23:05 AM PDT by Rapscallion (In Benghazi they died; Obama, Clinton and Rice lied. God may forgive. I do not.)
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To: Rapscallion

You can’t impeach a usurper. He was never president.


28 posted on 05/23/2013 5:25:33 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Liz

I asked the other day if any of this falls under RICO.

#48 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3021877/posts?page=48#48


29 posted on 05/23/2013 5:31:16 AM PDT by EBH (The “government” that sits in Washington, D.C. is not the United States government.)
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To: Rapscallion

I am suggesting impeachment is ridiculous, and so are our regularly scheduled elections, which invite the shenanigans this administration. The truly clever have learned how to exploit our system and the system must change. Forget impeachment. You will never impeach Obama. Anyone who tries will be called “rascist”—which is how the demonization of the Tea Party began.


30 posted on 05/23/2013 5:35:09 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: opentalk
It's more, much more, than mere criminality. It is the willful subversion and overthrow - the "fundamental transformation" - of the US into a marxist dictatorship

The sleaze at the IRS is only one tiny facet of the problem. For example, Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs has the goods on Lois Lerner's role in the Obama election apparat during her previous job at the FEC. As head of the Enforcement Division of the FEC it was her role to not investigate the mountain of illegal overseas money rolling into the Obama campaign coffers, Remember this sort of thing?

Our government is now riddled with these bolshevik termites eating away at the substance of what the Founders created.

31 posted on 05/23/2013 5:39:33 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything. Bolshies' gonna bolsh.)
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To: DeaconRed

I could not believe he “won” the 2012 election. Well, he did, but unfairly, and only because he had his minions clamp down on activists who turned the 2010 election against him. I have no confidence in anything done by federal officials anymore, and unfortunately, you are right about the free stuff— the welfare queens — and believe me, they are not all African-American — are so glued to the Jody Arias trial they have not a clue about what else is going on.


32 posted on 05/23/2013 5:40:31 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: browniexyz
I am suggesting impeachment is ridiculous, and so are our regularly scheduled elections,

What makes us different and better is that we FOLLOW OUR CONSTITUTION. When we don't, we become as bad as all the other tyrannical governments. Let us keep the America we love, despite Obama.

33 posted on 05/23/2013 5:40:53 AM PDT by Rapscallion (In Benghazi they died; Obama, Clinton and Rice lied. God may forgive. I do not.)
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To: Smokeyblue
You can’t impeach a usurper. He was never president.

Yes you can. He occupies the office, right or wrong. Thus he can be removed by our constitutional procedures. Keep that in mind.

34 posted on 05/23/2013 5:43:11 AM PDT by Rapscallion (In Benghazi they died; Obama, Clinton and Rice lied. God may forgive. I do not.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
"As head of the Enforcement Division of the FEC it was her role to not investigate the mountain of illegal overseas money rolling into the Obama campaign coffers, Remember this sort of thing?"

Yes.

And don't forget the FCC threatening people too. Only the tip of the iceberg. Only the tip.

35 posted on 05/23/2013 5:43:59 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Rapscallion

I am suggesting that the Constitution has been VERY effectively circumvented byt EVEN OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL. Did you HEAR the IRS officials thumbing their noses at it??? Even our Supreme Court has very little time for our Constitution. Something has to change. I love the Constitution too, and silly naive little me takes my oath to uphold it seriously. Don’t you get that we have a new race of “Americans” in federal government who SNEER at the Constitution? And that there is very little hope of getting any official body to actually APPLY it. I am very sad for my country today. We have paid so much money in taxes that the bureaucrats outnumber us and persecute us and we have very little recourse.


36 posted on 05/23/2013 5:44:31 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Rapscallion

No, Rapscallion, I love your idealism but our “constitutional procedures” can’t be used to remove him unless PEOPLE APPLY THEM!!!! WHO???? Give me NAMES of anyone with the cajones to do this in America today. The Attorney General? Whoops, No. The Supreme Court? Whoops, sorry, nobody there. The culture of intimidation is complete.


37 posted on 05/23/2013 5:46:33 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: EBH
Way to go----RICO kicks in when "patterns" of behavior emerge. There are state and federal RICO laws. It originally was intended to nail organized crime when legit busineses were used for criminal purposes.

REFERENCE In the United States, the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act is a federal law that was enacted to give extended penalties in the prosecution of organized criminal acts. The RICO Act is codified as Chapter 96 of Title 18 of the U.S. Code, which deals with federal crimes and criminal procedure. Although it was intended to be used against the Mafia and others engaged in organized crime, the RICO Act has been used to prosecute all sorts of criminal activity.

The RICO Act was created as part of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970. As a product of two sets of Congressional hearings that took place in the late 1950s and early 1960s, the act's main focus was on measures that would be prohibitive to gambling organizations. Sponsored by Senator John Little McClellan and drafted by G. Robert Blakey, the Rico Act was signed into law by President Richard Nixon on 15 October 1970.

Under the RICO Act, a person can be charged with racketeering — if he or she has committed two of the 27 federal and eight state crimes under U.S. legislation within a 10-year period.

The law gives the government the power to criminally prosecute and imprison even if he or she has never personally committed any of the components of racketeering. This is because he or she is part of a criminal enterprise.

38 posted on 05/23/2013 5:48:11 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Paine in the Neck
Thanks, more from your link

… Lerner got a bonus in the $150K range and has now been appointed to run the enforcement division of Obamacare. You just can't make this stuff up. Remember, the IRS is armed and considered law enforcement.

40 posted on 05/23/2013 5:54:32 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: I want the USA back; Mr. K

Sowell does an examination of the liberal mindset and why they feel completely comfortable with employing ANY means to achieve their ends.

They’ve defined their “ends” as perfection, heaven on earth.
This strays into the topic of liberalism as a religion, but I’ll save that.

When your end goal is a perfect heaven, any weighing of means/ends ends up with X/infinity, and any means, therefore are justified.


41 posted on 05/23/2013 5:56:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Venturer

We fill these agencies with people with a generational chip on their shoulder who see their government job as a way of implementing “payback”.


42 posted on 05/23/2013 5:57:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: bert

Seriously, rigging an election through abuse of government power should carry the death penalty.


43 posted on 05/23/2013 5:58:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: redhawkruger

Awareness is just now starting to percolate to the top...

It is vitally important we recognize this fact. The time is coming when the ‘sleeping citizens’ will hear the alarm going off and awaken. It is this moment we must be prepared for.

We all know what is happening, but the general populace is barely aware...it is time for the ride of modern day Paul Revere...

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


44 posted on 05/23/2013 6:00:16 AM PDT by EBH (The government that sits in Washington, D.C. is not the United States government.)
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To: bert
There was no frivolity nor sarcasm in my post.

Nor mine. This is absolutely serious. If justice isn't done, there will be a bloody revolt. The PTB might fear minority riots if they take action against Obama, but they really need to fear what will happen "when white people 'riot'".

46 posted on 05/23/2013 6:08:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Liz; Nachum; opentalk; EBH; InterceptPoint; Smokeyblue; Paine in the Neck; bert

IRS Section 1203
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3022831/posts?page=1

From post 3

On its face, section 1203 requires a final administrative or judicial determination. In the current scandal, we don’t even have pending administrative or judicial proceedings. Here is section 1203:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3022831/posts?page=3#3

and from post 12
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3022831/posts?page=12#12

(7) willful misuse of the provisions of section 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986
for the purpose of concealing information from a congressional inquiry;

The Fifth.


47 posted on 05/23/2013 6:08:47 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: MrB
Going into the election seemed Romney had the edge. After , odd silence about voter fraud, especially from conservative media, radio..even though some districts had more votes than residents. No backing up of Allen West and how that was handled.

Soros voter machines are going to be expanded for 2014

48 posted on 05/23/2013 6:10:51 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: browniexyz

Lois Lerner was at the heart of the corruption of TWO presidential elections. She was in charge of enforcement of election laws, especially campaign finance, in the first Obama election. In that one, he took in millions of $ from illegal overseas contributions. Lerner just looked the other way. In the second, most recent election, she made sure the opposition could not function for lack of funds and support by harrasing them with the apparatus of the IRS. Congress needs to dig a lot deeper into her activities than just who told who at the IRS.


49 posted on 05/23/2013 6:18:56 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything. Bolshies' gonna bolsh.)
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To: browniexyz

That is one of the few tiny differences between Our Constitution and other Parliamentary Systems with which I have an issue.

Otherwise, it’s PERFECT.

Perhaps Our Founding Fathers were concerned that if a Recall For “NO CONFIDENCE” existed in Our Constitution, then chaos would ensue and the Business of Government would never get done.

One thing is for certain: I have “NO CONFIDENCE” in the government right now. in fact, I am fearful of it. I have NEVER felt that way before in my entire life, and I have lived through some pretty bad presidents.


50 posted on 05/23/2013 6:19:52 AM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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