IRS audited 69% of filers claiming child adoption tax credit

1 posted on 05/23/2013 8:08:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Forget the war on women... what about this slogan — WAR ON CHILDREN...

2 posted on 05/23/2013 8:09:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

3 posted on 05/23/2013 8:12:18 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY

Adoption avoids abortion.

Investigations must commence.

4 posted on 05/23/2013 8:14:20 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)

That’s really nice of them. After we spend months of bureaucratic paper work processing, psychological testing, thumb-printing and FBI background checks, lots of money...they audit us for claiming a legal credit. Phuk em.

5 posted on 05/23/2013 8:14:23 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)

My enrolled agent gnome with a national firm and my own research tells me :-)....

Yes this Home Office Deductions, and Earn Income Tax Credit with all these unique new "Households" i.e. kids living with their Aunt and Uncle as the main source of support, because their parents are "whatever is wrong with them", are all flags.

What I was told was the 16,000 agents Are not for Obamacare They were for EITC alone and other like parts of the code that are time and energy suckers and by adding that many people obviously someone felt these programs are being abused...

6 posted on 05/23/2013 8:20:12 AM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))

We were one of the ones “audited”, and it didn’t go beyond the “mail more documentation” in phase.

Nearly everyone that year was audited, but it wasn’t terribly onerous. It did, of course, delay the badly needed replenishing of funds. One consequence of the tax credits is the overnight massive increase in agency and attorney fees.

Things do get more complicated if (for whatever reason) you do not have an SSN for adoptee. You have to go and get an ATIN (Adoptive Taxpayer Identification Number).

7 posted on 05/23/2013 8:27:49 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)

After we spend months of bureaucratic paper work processing, psychological testing, thumb-printing and FBI background checks, lots of money

You got by with thumb printing? We got all ten digits...TWICE.

8 posted on 05/23/2013 8:29:59 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)

9 posted on 05/23/2013 8:31:04 AM PDT by Black Agnes

No, you’re right, it’s been years ago for us. But it was 10 digits and yes once for the FBI and once for the local sheriff. I’ll never forget dealing with Immigration, what a cluster. I can’t imagine what ICE is like now, with their dictatorial powers.

10 posted on 05/23/2013 8:41:47 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)

RE: Things do get more complicated if (for whatever reason) you do not have an SSN for adoptee

How does an adoptee from a foreign country acquire an SSN? You’d have to apply for the child right? How long does it take to get one?

11 posted on 05/23/2013 8:52:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

I can’t imagine what ICE is like now, with their dictatorial powers.

Believe it or not, for some things it is better. Much will depend on your local office. I could write a book on my experience with my Canadian wife. I will give a synopsis.

11/97: Submit paperwork, including the question about whether you belonged to terrorist groups.

12/97: Paperwork returned, claiming that marriage certificate was missing. Marriage certificate was included in returned packet.

12/97: Hand delivered paperwork, only to be told that the rules changed and we had to start over. An appeal to the supervisor over-ruled the window lady, who seemed to derive great pleasure from making people start over, based on what we observed over the two hours we waited. It turned out the stamped date of the original trumps all.

05/98: The Sivanas decide to move to northern Illinois. We follow procedures for informing them of move in 07/98.

09/98: Sivanas get letter forwarded from old address informing us of a hearing the next day in Hartford, CT. Miss the meeting, and process is cancelled. Do not pass GO, Do NOT collect $200.

10/98: IL Rep. Don Manzullo (conservative Republican) showed he could do constituent service, too. His local office had our case reinstated in toto, and moved to Chicago.

Some time in 1999: Chicago's office was huge, the wait was long, but we were bumped up in line because of what we had already processed. We felt like royalty going passed the teeming throngs at the escalator.

After the 90 minute wait, we had a nice conversation to confirm what we submitted. We passed, and Mrs. Sivana got a temp green card. We went to Greektown to celebrate.

Counterintuitively, the Chicago folks were pros, and the CT folks were wretched caricatures of bureaucrats (except for the supervisor, who rightly corrected the underling).

The final Green Card would not arrive until late 2002. Five years from beginning to end. But hey, a U.S. citizen at birth marrting a nice, well-behaved Canadian girl, ya gotta expect trouble.

Fast forward to today. Some things really tightened up, some things loosened. But my Canadian sister-in-law was able to get all of it taken care of ahead of time with a new version of the fiancee visa, and was good from the get go.

12 posted on 05/23/2013 8:59:33 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)

How does an adoptee from a foreign country acquire an SSN? You’d have to apply for the child right? How long does it take to get one?

We never adopted from a foreign country, though we looked into it. Things have gotten MUCH MUCH worse since the Hague convention, and international adoptions are down 50%. You may have to wait in the foreign country for several weeks or more, as paperwork gets processed, and you re-enter the U.S. with the child propely documented. Rules may have changed more in last few years. Much depends on how well the foreign country can do things.

13 posted on 05/23/2013 9:02:24 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)

That’s us!

We adopted in 2002 and 2006 and claimd the credit both times.

2002 no issues...2006 was a nightmare.

14 posted on 05/23/2013 10:05:12 AM PDT by mom4melody

RE: 2002 no issues...2006 was a nightmare.

Bush was President both times. What changed in 2006?

15 posted on 05/23/2013 10:08:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A person who couldn’t type.

The IRS added an additional 1 to an income line item taking it from 1100 to 11,100 and decreased the amount of the credit we could file for and that caused us to owe...a lot.

We finally got it fixed but it took time (into 2008 BTW) and to be frank, the IRS was quite nasty about it, even when proved it was their fault.

16 posted on 05/23/2013 10:13:27 AM PDT by mom4melody

My friend, you are experiencing what it is like to deal with GOVERNMENT... wait till Obamacare kicks in next year and the IRS looks at your tax forms to determine whether you have healthcare or not...

That’s what you get for getting Uncle Sam involved in all aspects of our lives...

17 posted on 05/23/2013 10:16:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Why did no one ask about this in the hearings?

18 posted on 05/23/2013 10:21:01 AM PDT by cookcounty (They thought he was the Black Lincoln. But he's the Black Nixon.)

With 80% plus of adoptive families being conservative, is this a screwy attempt to harass conservatives?

Or to diminish abortion alternatives?

19 posted on 05/23/2013 10:22:44 AM PDT by cookcounty (They thought he was the Black Lincoln. But he's the Black Nixon.)

"Bush was President both times. What changed in 2006?

Schulman the Stupid became IRS Commissioner?

20 posted on 05/23/2013 10:24:17 AM PDT by cookcounty (They thought he was the Black Lincoln. But he's the Black Nixon.)

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