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Boy Scouts Approve Plan To Accept Openly Gay Boys
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Posted on 05/23/2013 3:20:16 PM PDT by Pyro7480

Edited on 05/23/2013 4:27:29 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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I see a great number of freepers posting here will be stopping donations to the BSA....and/or withdrawing their boys from the organization.

This is good, but would be even better if you contacted the scouting nabobs by letter or email.

Is there anyone here familiar with scouting who can provide a useful, viable address or email addy link to the BSA....or perhaps to the grand poobah or board members of this organization?

Otherwise all the wails of protest appearing here are just so much whistling in the wind.....with only the approving FR choir reading them.

Contribution money talks....and believe me, any vote passed can be countermanded at some point. It ain't over till it's over.


201 posted on 05/23/2013 4:29:01 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Say Hey Trey!)
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To: Pyro7480
I wish they would have held out against Obama's pressure a little longer. With the FBI,EPA, FBI, etc. scandals, the pressure against Conservatives groups might start lifting.

Anyhow, here are some alternatives.

Faith Based Alternatives to Boy Scouts

202 posted on 05/23/2013 4:29:43 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: BillyBoy

Keep it, you’ll regret sending it away. I have mine and I have my old campfire blanket. Too many good memories you’ll never be able to replace.

203 posted on 05/23/2013 4:30:12 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Da Coyote

The Fudge Packing Badge.

204 posted on 05/23/2013 4:30:28 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Pyro7480

The end of the “Boy Scouts” as Americans knew them! How long before the lawsuits fly to change the name to the “Scouts?”

Hold on, its coming!

205 posted on 05/23/2013 4:31:39 PM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: Pyro7480

This is gonna be a legal disaster - and a lawyer’s dream ...

Imagine 11-year old “Lil’ Johnny Tenderfoot” getting buggered at camp by an older Scout in his troop, lets call him “Dougy Boy” [who is gay and 17-years old] ...

Now, since the vote, if this happens - the troop can be sued, the sponsoring organization of the troop can be sued [ie: a church], and the Boy Scout Regional [and National] Councils that run the camp can be sued. The reason is forseeable consequence and lack of provision for the young Scout’s safety.

Don’t believe me? It happened to me [getting sued] when I was a Camp Counselor in 1973. Young Scout’s family sued all of the above [and me, as the troop’s liasion and an employee at the camp].

They did not win, as it came out that older Scout had known he was gay and concealed it for 6 years in the troop. The court threw out the suit, saying that it was an unforseeable consequence, the older Scout had committed fraud, and that the troop/sponsoring organization/Scout Councils/and me had provided reasonable safety [although we did not know the older Scout was gay].

BUT, it was a MAJOR hassle for me while the litigation was on-going ...

206 posted on 05/23/2013 4:32:13 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: MinuteGal

I see a lot have posted on the BSA FaceBook page, they need to follow that up.

207 posted on 05/23/2013 4:32:54 PM PDT by GeronL (
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To: Pyro7480

Indeed... it is the end of scouting. I, for one, will never again support the BSA. It is a shame.

208 posted on 05/23/2013 4:32:58 PM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: Pyro7480
Statement by John Stemberger, founder of ...

Grapevine, TX – Following the vote today by the Boy Scouts of America’s voting delegates to pass the resolution allowing “open and avowed homosexuality” in the Boy Scouts, John Stemberger, Founder of OnMyHonor.Net, a coalition of members of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) including parents, Scoutmasters, Eagle Scouts and other Scouting leaders who affirm Scouting’s timeless values, made the following statement:

“It is with great sadness and deep disappointment that we recognize on this day that the most influential youth program in America has turned a tragic corner. The vote today to allow open and avowed homosexuality into Scouting will completely transform it into an unprincipled and risky proposition for parents. It is truly a sad day for Scouting.

The Boy Scouts of America has a logo that bears the phrase ‘Timeless Values.’ Today, the BSA can no longer use this phrase in good faith. It has demonstrated by its actions that the organization’s values are not timeless, and instead they are governed by changing tides of polls, politics and public opinion.

The saddest part of today’s decision is what the organization is teaching our children and young people in the program.

The BSA is teaching our kids that when your values become unpopular, just change them.

The BSA is teaching our kids that when your convictions are challenged, just cave to peer pressure.

The BSA is teaching our kids that public opinion polls are more important than principles.

Today, the BSA is teaching our kids that you should not stand up for what is right instead you should stand up for what is popular.

The mission of the Boy Scouts of America is to “prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes by instilling in them the values of the Scout Oath and Scout Law.”

BSA is teaching our kids through its new mission that we don’t make ethical and moral choices through the values of the Scout Oath and Scout Law but we make them like an unprincipled politician does, by putting your finger in the air and seeing which way the wind is blowing or by looking at the latest polling results.

What kind of a message are we sending to young people about being brave when its top adult leaders don’t even have the courage to stand up to the pressure of a militant lobby when the bullies in Washington DC, Hollywood or even some of their own renegade councils start pressuring and harassing them?

Each and every one of the thousands of Scouting families that have supported and followed our movement must now make a very difficult decision. We respect the right for each parent and family to decide whether they will continue their membership in the Boy Scouts of American or not.

Many, like me and my family, cannot continue to support an organization more concerned with the intolerant demands of activists while compromising the safety and security of the young people they swore to serve. In July of last year, after a two year study from 2010 to 2012, the BSA’s eleven member task force unanimously concluded that their existing policy on this issue was “the absolute best policy for the Boy Scouts of America.” Suddenly, less than a year later, that is abruptly reversed.

We hoped to keep sex and politics out of Scouting. Now we grieve for those young boys who will not have the wonderful traditions and experiences that so many of us have had in Scouting.

Despite this setback, we will look to the future. I am pleased to announce that OnMyHonor.Net along with other likeminded organizations, parents and BSA members, are announcing a coalition meeting that will take place next month in Louisville, Kentucky. There we will discuss the creation of a new character development organization for boys. While the meeting will be private, your voice is very important to us and will be represented there. We will host and facilitate a national coalition meeting of former BSA parents and other youth leaders who wish to return to truly timeless values that once made the BSA great. We welcome your comments as we develop our plans. Please share your thoughts with us at Contact@OnMyHonor.Net

We grieve today, not because we are faced with leaving Scouting, but because the Boy Scouts of America has left us. Its leadership has turned its back on 103 years of abiding by a mission to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices. Instead, it is embarking on a pathway of social experimentation that we believe will place at risk the very youth the organization is entrusted to serve, while rendering as hollow the tenets of the Scout Oath. Many of us find that unacceptable, and we have a desire to explore how we might serve families and young people at the highest standard originally intended by Scouting’s founder, Robert Baden-Powell.”

209 posted on 05/23/2013 4:34:10 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: AlexW

Thanks for not jumping on my case for disparaging that,
NOt interested in anything that has lost its moral compass/

210 posted on 05/23/2013 4:34:35 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: MinuteGal

That’s what my troop did many years ago. However, the problem is the whole issue of troop recruitment. It’s not so much the attack on the troop - but on where the troop could meet. Many scouting groups meet on school grounds. What happened is that it became very difficult to find a place for the group to meet and it was hard to get boys interested in joining without the overall group support.

But that was fifteen years ago. I don’t know that things are different enough now to make this useful for the boys today.

211 posted on 05/23/2013 4:35:01 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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“It’s a great first step, and the fact that they’ve gone to the Supreme Court to defend the right to discriminate shows the progress we’ve made,” the 33-year-old mother of four told

This is where I would normally say something about “salami tactics,” but it might be misinterpreted under the circumstances.

212 posted on 05/23/2013 4:35:05 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yep. They will cry victory even louder when it folds.

213 posted on 05/23/2013 4:35:08 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Pyro7480

It is a sad day. I will never be able to put on that uniform again. I used to enjoy scouting. Good bye old friend.

214 posted on 05/23/2013 4:35:08 PM PDT by mikemoose (Pray for the Unborn)
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To: Pyro7480

Say goodbye to the “Morally Straight” part of the Scout Oath, it’s meaningless now.

215 posted on 05/23/2013 4:35:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MacNaughton


Well worth reading.

216 posted on 05/23/2013 4:35:57 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Pyro7480

The Boy Scouts just took it.
217 posted on 05/23/2013 4:36:09 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Millicent_Hornswaggle
Then this abomination is about triply horrible for you and your boys     :^(

This scout from the 60s offers his sincerest condolence.

218 posted on 05/23/2013 4:36:18 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Amen! Unfortunately many parents don’t care or we wouldn’t be in this mess. No one wants to be bothered to get involved.

There are really only three types of people: Those who make things happen, those who watch things happen, and those who say, “What happened?” Author: Unknown

. . . It happened!

219 posted on 05/23/2013 4:37:16 PM PDT by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: lowbridge


220 posted on 05/23/2013 4:37:28 PM PDT by EDINVA
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