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Now The Gibson Guitar Raids Make Sense
Investor's Business Daily ^ | May 23. 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 05/23/2013 4:16:11 PM PDT by raptor22

IRS Scandal: The inexplicable raid nearly two years ago on a guitar maker for using allegedly illegal wood that its competitors also used was another targeting by this administration of its political enemies.

On Aug. 24, 2011, federal agents executed four search warrants on Gibson Guitar Corp. facilities in Nashville and Memphis, Tenn., and seized several pallets of wood, electronic files and guitars. One of the top makers of acoustic and electric guitars, including the iconic Les Paul introduced in 1952, Gibson was accused of using wood illegally obtained in violation of the century-old Lacey Act, which outlaws trafficking in flora and fauna the harvesting of which had broken foreign laws.

In one raid, the feds hauled away ebony fingerboards, alleging they violated Madagascar law. Gibson responded by obtaining the sworn word of the African island's government that no law had been broken.

In another raid, the feds found materials imported from India, claiming they too moved across the globe in violation of Indian law. Gibson's response was that the feds had simply misinterpreted Indian law.

Interestingly, one of Gibson's leading competitors is C.F. Martin & Co. According to C.F. Martin's catalog, several of their guitars contain "East Indian Rosewood," which is the exact same wood in at least 10 of Gibson's guitars. So why were they not also raided and their inventory of foreign wood seized?

Grossly underreported at the time was the fact that Gibson's chief executive, Henry Juszkiewicz, contributed to Republican politicians. Recent donations have included $2,000 to Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., and $1,500 to Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn.

By contrast, Chris Martin IV, the Martin & Co. CEO, is a long-time Democratic supporter, with $35,400 in contributions to Democratic candidates and the Democratic National Committee over the past couple of election cycles.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


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1 posted on 05/23/2013 4:16:11 PM PDT by raptor22
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To: raptor22
i guess Fender donated to the RATS...
2 posted on 05/23/2013 4:18:34 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: raptor22

When playing by the Chicago rules, it’s who you know.

The wicked are like the chaff that the wind drives away.


3 posted on 05/23/2013 4:19:42 PM PDT by lurk
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To: raptor22

This current administration is becoming more fascist every day


4 posted on 05/23/2013 4:20:13 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: raptor22

“...On Aug. 24, 2011, federal agents executed four search warrants on Gibson Guitar Corp...”
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I remember this, but I don’t think the agents were from the IRS.
Let’s drag yet another federal agency into the corruption probe.


5 posted on 05/23/2013 4:20:18 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: raptor22

Its not just the IRS, it is every agency of government


6 posted on 05/23/2013 4:20:25 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: raptor22

To me, it was always abundantly clear that the 0bama regime was punishing Gibson for supporting the opposition and conservative causes. I’m just waiting for Hussein and company to find out first hand that paybacks are hell!


7 posted on 05/23/2013 4:20:27 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Pray THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA will be delivered from the evil unGODly forces)
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To: raptor22

Your gummint is outta control!


8 posted on 05/23/2013 4:20:29 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: raptor22

It made sense for us FReepers at the time, and they called us conspiracy nutz.


9 posted on 05/23/2013 4:21:24 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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IBD EDITORIAL PING


10 posted on 05/23/2013 4:22:09 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: raptor22

The original Gibson boy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBBDCV2Fzno


11 posted on 05/23/2013 4:22:50 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: raptor22

Don’t fret!


12 posted on 05/23/2013 4:24:17 PM PDT by golux
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To: GeronL

Correct. You name an agency and I’ll show you ways they’ve been politicized by Obastard. He’s corrupted everything he’s touched.


13 posted on 05/23/2013 4:25:54 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: raptor22

This sounds like the sort of thing that goes on in banana republics.


14 posted on 05/23/2013 4:25:58 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: raptor22
In one raid, the feds hauled away ebony fingerboards, alleging they violated Madagascar law.

HTF do we justify the Feds enforcing laws of a foreign country on our soil? So can we demand that they enforce laws against homosexuality in Russia?

This sh-- HAS to stop. HAS TO.

15 posted on 05/23/2013 4:27:21 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Like the Republican GM dealers that were shut down.


16 posted on 05/23/2013 4:28:17 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Repeal The 17th
I remember this, but I don’t think the agents were from the IRS.

Sounds like they were Eric Holder's DOJ storm troopers.

http://www.gibson.com/absolutenm/templates/FeatureTemplatePressRelease.aspx?articleid=1340&zoneid=6

17 posted on 05/23/2013 4:28:52 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: raptor22

Also don’t forget all the SWAT raids on (yes) AMISH and others selling (tiny) volumes of raw milk.

Guns drawn, etc, etc.

Ditto for LEMONADE STANDS.


18 posted on 05/23/2013 4:29:40 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: raptor22

Bob Dylan should write a song about this...I hear he is more conservative now that he is old.


19 posted on 05/23/2013 4:29:49 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: raptor22

When O’Bamba finds out about this He’s gonna be Pissed!


20 posted on 05/23/2013 4:30:13 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Contrary To Ordinary)
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To: golux

Goes to show that in the guitar industry, you don’r want to stick your neck out.


21 posted on 05/23/2013 4:30:21 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: raptor22

Is this regime wanting war against it’s people?

They seem to be provoking mainstream and conservatives into that position. I am feeling this more and more.

That may also explain the ammo build up in what should be benign agencies.


22 posted on 05/23/2013 4:30:27 PM PDT by llevrok (2013: - Obama vs America. The new cold war)
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To: raptor22

The Gibson attack was blatantly racist. They ended up on a list and got chosen to be brought down. By the way, what percentage of guitarists are white? Hmmmm.. Reminds me of the ‘tanning salon tax’ in 0bamacare. Not many brown skin people go to tanning salons. These are purely racist attacks by the Black Panther at the DOJ.


23 posted on 05/23/2013 4:36:13 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Repeal The 17th
Let’s drag yet another federal agency into the corruption probe.

All those eager leftist college grads with their LGBT Studies degree in hand know their job before they start working for government. It is to harass, encumber and destroy all opposition. They have infiltrated the entire federal government, including the military.

24 posted on 05/23/2013 4:36:31 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Menehune56

On August 24, 2011, around 8:45 a.m. CDT, agents for the federal government executed four search warrants on Gibson’s facilities in Nashville and Memphis and seized several pallets of wood, electronic files and guitars.

The Federal Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. has suggested that the use of wood from India that is not finished by Indian workers is illegal, not because of U.S. law, but because it is the Justice Department’s interpretation of a law in India. This action was taken without the support and consent of the government in India.

Gibson has obtained sworn statements and documents from the Madagascar government and these materials, which have been filed in federal court, show that the wood seized in 2009 was legally exported under Madagascar law and that no law has been violated.


25 posted on 05/23/2013 4:37:31 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: realcleanguy

Fascist Stalinists. Every day I miss Ronald Reagan more and more...


26 posted on 05/23/2013 4:37:55 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: raptor22

Ol’ Chicago shakedown on a national scale.


27 posted on 05/23/2013 4:39:10 PM PDT by MilesVeritatis (Devote yourself to the truth, no matter where it leads you.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

They will demand that safeguards be put in place so that it never, ever happens again on the ninth of November, 2016.


28 posted on 05/23/2013 4:39:26 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

FReepers have been aware of this since Zero’s thugs got started on it in 2009.


29 posted on 05/23/2013 4:41:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: raptor22

Gibson settled because of money and part of the settlement was a GAG ORDER so they can’t talk about it now.


30 posted on 05/23/2013 4:45:16 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: raptor22
"illegal wood"

Bad, bad, wood!

31 posted on 05/23/2013 4:46:22 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Grampa Dave; granite; GreenFreeper; grjr21; I got the rope; IchBinEinBerliner; jaredt112; JayB; ...

IBD EDITORIAL PING


32 posted on 05/23/2013 4:48:06 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I got ripped here on this board when this was big news. A “FReeper” schooled me on endangered trees and how Gibson shouldn’t be allowed to have this wood. I was confused because I knew all along that this Nazi blitzkrieg on Gibson by the Fish and Wildlife commandos wasn’t about endangered trees, rain forests and fuzzy little critters named Louie. It was about conservatives, Republicans and campaign donations.


33 posted on 05/23/2013 5:06:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: raptor22

It’s very rare that I overestimate Obama. I consider the usurper a lazy and stupid version of Satan - evil without the enthusiasm. In this case though, I knew the whole story and missed the explanation. I figured (and may even have posted on FR) that Obama was not quite stupid or corrupt enough to have launched that obvious an attack to punish a conservative. I was wrong. Obama is every bit as petty and evil as I always suspected, but he has no shame and feels no need to be discrete given the 24/7 media cheerleader support.


34 posted on 05/23/2013 5:09:27 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Still Thinking; StopGlobalWhining; Straight Vermonter; Tampa Caver; TChris; ...

IBD EDITORIAL PING


35 posted on 05/23/2013 5:14:29 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I don’t know if the MSM can ever recover from their selective journalism even if they CHANGE THEIR TUNE. I know the FOREIGNERS SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT REGIME will not recover from this.


36 posted on 05/23/2013 5:15:56 PM PDT by spawn44 ( moo)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Post Obama’s directive to his minions to ‘punish the enemy’. 10/25/10


37 posted on 05/23/2013 5:26:14 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: 353FMG
The King Himself...

Les Paul

38 posted on 05/23/2013 5:42:52 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: realcleanguy

This current administration is becoming more fascist every day

But the LSM used that word in their headlines when talking about W


39 posted on 05/23/2013 5:53:13 PM PDT by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: Chode
...Recent donations have included $2,000 to Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., and $1,500 to Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn.

By contrast, Chris Martin IV, the Martin & Co. CEO, is a long-time Democratic supporter, with $35,400 in contributions to Democratic candidates and the Democratic National Committee over the past couple of election cycles.

40 posted on 05/24/2013 1:15:36 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: raptor22

Thanks for posting. I’ve been trying to follow this story.


41 posted on 05/24/2013 1:53:23 AM PDT by Daaave ("Where it all ends I can't fathom my friends")
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To: Randy Larsen

He was a very gracious man.


42 posted on 05/24/2013 1:58:25 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: raptor22

Sounds like the multi-agency coordinated harassment experienced by True-the-Vote, and its leader, Catherine Engelbrecht!

http://radio.foxnews.com/2013/05/22/true-the-vote-founder-catherine-engelbrecht-multiple-gvt-agencies-targeted-me-and-my-business/


43 posted on 05/24/2013 3:10:46 AM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: SunkenCiv
When the final list is made of all groups, companies and individuals targeted for the ‘crime’ of being conservative it'll shock even the most jaded among us.

The IRS was not the only group doing this...

44 posted on 05/24/2013 3:11:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (It's Gotten So Bad for Obama Fox News Changed Its Slogan to "See. I Told You So!"- Leno)
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To: gorush

He played at the White House, and didn’t greet or speak to obama. He didn’t even shake his hand. The irony was in a Pawn Stars episode, the owner of the Pawn Shop tasked his employee “Chumlee” to wait outside a casino where he was performing to autograph an artifact brought into the store. Chumlee succesful met Bob Dylan shook his hand and got the autograph.


45 posted on 05/24/2013 4:38:15 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: raptor22; SunkenCiv

So many parts of this article are parsed or present as factual statements that aren’t correct.

Here’s the first hint that this journalist based his story on press releases and other journalists, and never read any of the court documents related to either confiscation action. He refers to East Indian Rosewood; the wood involved in the August 2011 raids and confiscation action was East Indian Ebony.

Henry J’s not remotely conservative. He’s an early member of the Clinton Global Initiative (’We are passionate about our commitment to the Clinton Global Initiative’). During the days when every room of the Clinton White House was for sale, Gibson hosted a 50th Anniversary Concert for President Clinton.

Gibson CEO Henry J. was a presenter at MTV’s Rock the Vote the year that Clinton won the Lifetime Achievement Award and Barack Obama was recognized.

He’s a founding member of the Rainforest Alliance, which believed in man-made global warming but now believes in man-made climate change.

He just made a contribution to Rep. Jim Cooper of Tennessee; his only other contribution to a candidate or party since 1990 was to Mike Huckabee, according to opensecrets.org.

He’s on the board of a group that sponsors poetry slams for diversity and other diversity causes.

His company sponsors the John Lennon bus museum.

And he’s on the board of a bunch of environmental groups.

Some Tea Party bloggers said he was conservative because it sounded good in the “Eric Holder’s Raids” blogs.

In 2009, Gibson knew what it was doing was wrong and they did it anyway.


46 posted on 05/24/2013 5:17:13 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (What happens over the rainbow stays over the rainbow)
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To: raptor22

Article neglects to mention Gibson is a non-union shop. The others are union. Follow that money, too.


47 posted on 05/24/2013 6:39:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Cyclone59
But the LSM used that word in their headlines when talking about W

Liberals project a lot, which is useful--it tells you what they are up to, themselves.

48 posted on 05/24/2013 7:11:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: castlegreyskull
Chumlee succesful met Bob Dylan shook his hand and got the autograph.

One problem: He got Dylan to sign the album "To Chumlee" which made it basically worthless as an item the pawn shop could sell. Who's gonna pay top dollar for an autograph directed to someone else?

49 posted on 05/24/2013 8:36:49 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Chumlee will quickly be forgotten in the next few years. He is bareky known at that.

My point was that Bob Dylan showed Chumlee more respect than he showed to obama.


50 posted on 05/24/2013 10:20:50 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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