Skip to comments.I-5 bridge collapses over Skagit River, sending vehicles, people into water
Posted on 05/24/2013 12:18:57 AM PDT by djf
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Not often, but the bike paths are well groomed with the tax dollars that are supposed to be for roads and bridges...
Sign found on local wall: Mothman Was Here.
Maintenance and jurisdiction over the interstate highway system has been turned over to the states.
That’s why New York can charge a toll on the NYS thruway, which is, IIRC, part of I-90
This is what happens when you skim 30% off highway funds before spending the rest on bike trails, rain gardens, and public transportation.
What a coinky-dink...a bridge on the NYS Thruway (I-90) collapsed back in 1987; killing 10 people.
Ike didn't get very far. The convoy got stuck in the mud in Emmitsburg, Maryland, and from that day forward, Ike began thinking about building better highways to connect east and west coasts for defense purposes.
So, it's the Japanese's fault.
Three trillion-with-a-t in stimulus and absolutely nothing to show for it but debt and rusting bridges.
I think both experiences formed Ike’s outlook. The U.S. Army was very grateful for the autobahn (and the Ludendorff Brücke, which was expressly built for the defense of the Reich).
I thought the Stimulus Bill was supposed to have fixed these infrastructure “shovel ready” projects. Just where did all that money go again?
Bush’s fault? No way!!!!
Like Obamatollah, I blame the ATM machines that also destroyed the economy.
It’ll be blamed on Bush, Republicans, conservatives, opponents of overtaxing Americans, the sequestration...
Yea, it looks like the “about” in “about 18 feet of water” has a very wide range!
Time for Obama to claim credit for the bridge across the Detroit river that Canada is paying for.
No, this is a rarity. Both the state (Washington) and the federal government are responsible for funding inspection and upkeep of the Interstate road system. Additionally, non-government organizations, primarily engineering profesionals, bolster the inspection process.
This is what the much ballyhood stimulus bill of 2009 was designed to repair. Unfortunately most of the funding was diverted by political favoritism to the likes of Green Energy, et al.
Ah, ok. I thought it happened more than it should.
I thought it was happening a bit too often recently. My bag.
No it isn't! :(
There’s no reason for that bridge to have collapsed. I believe an overheight semi may have rammed the girders.
It appears that a truck did hit the bridge but that shouldn’t cause a collapse.
I'm just glad no one was hurt, esp. since my own small kids travel on that stretch of road.
It’s a very shallow river and it wasn’t a fall. More like driving down a very steep ramp into water that would act as a cushion. The speed limit in that area is 55-60 and the drivers probably saw it going down before they reach it.
Bet they could do a temp repair in 2-3 weeks.
They'll bleet and holler about needing more money for infrastructure, and when they get it unless it buys tons of cement and rebar, they'll spend it on something else.
They just don't care!
You are seeing where the surface finish paint cracked off due to the stretching and deformation of the metal. You are seeing the primer layer underneath.
That stretch of highway is actually pretty well maintained - worlds ahead of the narrow pothole- and crack-ridden slabs of concrete they call roads in New York (another Democrat-controlled paradise). When the truck hit the bridge at high speed it obviously displaced the entire section from the supporting column which precipitated the collapse. There was nothing wrong with this bridge.
"Washington Department of Transportation does not have adequate controls to ensure that information the Recovery Act required to be reported for its highway program is accurate." (page 19)
Translation: The State of Washington's accounting system sucks and they couldn't (or didn't want to) keep track of where the money went.
Regarding New York bridges ~ they're all owned and operated by the New York Port Authority ~ an independent interstate compact operation. For all practical purposes they are a pay as you go sort of thing, fairly close to what you'd get with a private bridge company!
We live on Camano. My wife and her mother drove over it around 2 pm. People drive over that bridge too fast and there are no shoulders to use to get out of harms’ way.
Yes, good observation.
Over-sized loads must be permitted, and routed. If the truck was over-height, it should have been escorted. The truck in question made it past the north end of the bridge. I find it hard to believe that a single truck could take down that span.
50% of the transportation dollars go to 3% of the traveling public that take alternate forms of transportation such as walking, biking, busing, and the train.
Washington sure seems to have its problems with bridges.
From this GoogTube-posted video.
While the cause of the collapse is still unknown, witnesses reported seeing a semitruck with an oversized load crossing the bridge and striking the beams on the north end before the bridge collapsed.
“I saw it. I was less than 50 feet away from the truck when it hit it,” witness Dale Ogden told KING 5. “I had just passed it in the fast lane southbound and it had an oversized load. It was approximately 12 feet wide and over 14 feet tall. It was in the slow lane when I came by...I was behind the flag car and in front of the truck in the other lane and I saw the whip - normally tells you how high they can clear - start hitting the bridge. I looked in my rearview mirror knowing this was not going to turn out well.”
“I saw the truck strike the right corner of the bridge. It almost tipped the truck over but it came back down. It tipped it up to about a 30 degree angle to the left and it came back down on its wheels and almost instantaneously behind that I saw girders falling in my rearview mirror.”
Washington Department of Transportation officials were investigating reports that the truck had struck the bridge.
Xavier Grospe, 62, who lives near the river, said he could see three cars with what appeared to be one person per vehicle. The vehicles were sitting still in the water, partially submerged and partly above the waterline, and the apparent drivers were sitting either on top of the vehicles or on the edge of open windows.
A) does this collapse give fodder for another big stimulus spending bill,
B) does this collapse raise the question: What happened to all the supposed infrastructure spending from the previous big stimulus spending bills?
Most of Washington and their compliant Media select A, while ignoring most of America’s yelling B.
I thought Obama was going to fix the bridges?
Pray for America to Wake Up
I was referring specifically to the road. The bridges in New York are marvels of engineering - and free as long as you’re walking or biking. The one that concerns me is the Manhattan Bridge and repeated torsion stress imposed by subways. Two trains on opposite sides of the bridge must cross at the same time to counterbalance the torsion, but the maximum stress when they first enter exacts a metal fatigue toll over time.
BTW, Happy 130th birthday today, Brooklyn Bridge!
Blame Canada eh? :P
all joking aside, I’m glad nobody was hurt. Too many stories these days, where the innocent are suffering at the hands of the feds.
“Functionally obsolete” means that the design of a bridge is not suitable for its current use, such as lack of safety shoulders or the inability to handle current traffic volume, speed, size, or weight.
Thanks for the info. I wonder who routed the truck.
Or was it Meshell??
SORRY TWO! IT’S THE CONOMY talkini
I blame this on electric car owners not paying their fare share of road taxes. We should outlaw electric cars!
I would think that there would be a database of the bridges and their clearance heights posted so those companies moving big machinery could consult it.
Could the paint over the primer have popped due to movement of the underlying steel? From the image, and without knowing if that orange was primer or added later, I can’t understand what the color patterns show us.
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Then there really isn’t ANY excuse for trucks to be running into bridges at least in the vertical direction!