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Secrecy, Heavy-Handed Tactics Reported at Boy Scouts Meeting
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Posted on 05/24/2013 6:32:58 AM PDT by chessplayer

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To: catfish1957
RE :”lol... how’s it going? Think we got a topic over hear that everyone agrees on? :)”

Now the Gay Scouts will be ready if they want to join the US military...later when older

141 posted on 05/24/2013 1:25:28 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: A Navy Vet

You guys who were kids in the 1950s are so lucky.

That was an America I will never know.

I caught a fleeting glimpse of it in the 1970s, I turned to look and it was gone.

142 posted on 05/24/2013 1:43:15 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: Taxman; CharlesWayneCT
Personal story: I quit the Boy Scouts in 1954 when I was invited by several members of my troop to participate in a homosexual “party,” organized by one of the Scoutmasters, while on a camping trip.

And you can rest assured that the same thing happens in Mormon troops. The main difference is that the homosexual Mormon scoutmasters are all in the closet and are married and therefore not evident.

143 posted on 05/24/2013 1:50:33 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: 1010RD

You have lost the Scouts, they now belong to the fags. The national organization will destroy any troop not complying. It is the same old crap with GSA, “yes the national organization is in alliance with planned parenthood, but the girls are your neighbors and need support.” No more support, this is an easy boycott just do not by the popcorn and cookies. I have a friend who is a scout leader he is torn apart by this. He does to know if he will continue as the Boy Scouts can no longer claim a moral high ground.

144 posted on 05/24/2013 2:24:17 PM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: sickoflibs

They’re like muslims. Infiltrate organizations/political offices and change the culture. It will only get worse. Too bad Christians don’t do that.

145 posted on 05/24/2013 2:31:10 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Carry_Okie

SACRAMENTO, Calif. Gov. Jerry Brown has signed legislation that makes California the first state to ban a controversial form of psychotherapy that’s aimed at making gay teenagers straight.

Effective Jan. 1, mental health practitioners are prohibited from performing sexual orientation change efforts — known as reparative or conversion therapy — for anyone under 18.

The therapies “have no basis in science or medicine and they will now be relegated to the dustbin of quackery,” Brown said in a statement.

Mainstream associations representing psychiatrists and psychologists have dismissed reparative therapy in recent decades. A number of mental health associations in California — including the state’s Board of Behavorial Sciences, the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists and the California Psychological Association — supported the legislation.

146 posted on 05/24/2013 2:36:23 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: catfish1957

So, you shrink their funding and some wealthy homosexuals come in and make up for it. Then who wins? Stop losing. It starts with you.

147 posted on 05/24/2013 3:13:00 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: OldGoatCPO

Jay Carney is that you? Or are you David Axelrod?

I mean stop quitting. You make me sick. Since when have conservatives been whiny, losing quitters?

Every openly homosexual Scout is an opporunity to prove the lie that nobody can change. Why not take the opportunity and run with it. I mean are we Christians or mice?

148 posted on 05/24/2013 3:14:29 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Baloney..... If there is enough outrage, the membership will drop to nothing more than a jr. faggot club. Another values based organization will fill the void.

You are the loser by accepting this.

149 posted on 05/24/2013 3:17:42 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: 1010RD

We’re not quitters. The BSA are the quitters. By caving to the forces of deviancy. Cowards. The Scouts are yellow-bellied cowards. A disgrace to everything they once stood for. A disgrace to God and country. As an organization, it deserves nothing less than death. Anyone donning the Scout uniform from this point onward only gets abject contempt from me. Degenerate scumbags.

150 posted on 05/24/2013 3:32:17 PM PDT by greene66
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To: chessplayer

Too bad we don’t have the ID and compamies that the destroyers work for. Because then we could boycot the daylights out of them.

151 posted on 05/24/2013 3:54:08 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: chessplayer

Buh bye, BSA.

152 posted on 05/24/2013 4:03:16 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Ransomed
14 I have yet to read a coherent account of the voting process and the results. It must be a secret or something. One article said the policy was changed by ‘more than 60% of local Scout leaders’ who were there to vote, but neglected to say what % of local Scout leaders were there.

Does anyone know the details of the vote?

5/23/2013 – BSA membership resolution passes with more than 60 percent of vote

After an extensive discussion within the organization, the Boy Scouts of America’s approximately 1,400 volunteer voting members chose to adopt the membership policy resolution and remove the restriction denying membership to youth on the basis of sexual orientation alone. The final vote breakdown was 61.44 % for the proposal, and 38.56 % against. The change takes effect Jan. 1, 2014. Voting results were tabulated and certified by TrueBallot, an independent, third-party voting firm.

It was a straight-up ballot, i.e., YES or NO. No amendments were allowed on the floor.

The total number of voting delegates was ~1,400 taken from ~294 local councils across the country. Each council had a minimum of 3 votes. Larger councils, defined by the number of youth members, were allocated more voting delegates.

153 posted on 05/24/2013 4:30:10 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Utah Binger
16 Hard to figure this one out.

Not really.

The LDS Church took a beating, from the inside and outside, for aggressively supporting Proposition 8 in CA during 2008. Since then, the Church has moved on to other battles in the cultural wars rather than to continue to take on the homosexual-rights activists for several reasons.

1. Church leadership felt like it was left holding the financial bag after other evangelical denominations failed to come through with promised aid in the fight against Proposition 8. Top church officials were heavily involved in the creation of the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), the primary player over the last decade in the fight to outlaw gay unions.

2. Church leadership feared that continued support of anti-homosexualsexual marriage measures would continue to generate negative publicity which in turn would limit the ability of its farflung missionaries to engage potential converts.

3. The Church wanted to be more welcoming to its members who are afflicted with same-sex attraction.

4. Mitt Romney, perhaps the highest profile Mormon in the U.S. today, had advocated membership for all homosexuals in the BSA since 1994. The chuch did not want to harm Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign.

5. Another high-profile Morman, Jon Huntsman Jr., former governor (R-UT) and former ambassador to Red China under POTUS #44 BHO, announced his support of homosexual marriage in FEB 2013. He also signed on the amicus brief that opposed the DoMA which is currently before the SCOTUS.

6. BSA National President Wayne Perry is a lifelong Mormon. He convinced the Mormon leadership to change its adversarial position against homosexuality in Scouting, which went back to the 2000 SCOTUS case, BSA v Dale.

154 posted on 05/24/2013 4:40:55 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
37 The one thing not yet said: “Was the ‘fix’ in?” Basically, was the vote rigged ahead of time, by the same type of experts who created massive vote fraud in local, state and national elections? This suggests one of two things: either the council membership had been infiltrated, or someone got control over the ballot boxes.

I read 2 articles in the weeks running up to the election that claimed there were reports of many non-voting delegates planning on showing up to crash the gate and vote in the election. Just didn't pass the smell test. My impression is that access to the meeting was rigidly controlled. According to BSA National, the votes were tabulated and certified by TrueBallot, an independent, third-party voting firm. I am still searching for accounts of how it went down. At this point, I am not suspicious of a rigged vote, but ...

This could also be a “natural change”, such as happened in the 1970s, when the BSA *stupidly* decided to integrate inner city youths,...

Occam's Razor would agree with you on this 1. I know everyone on FR hates polling, but there have just been so many out the past year which all point in the same direction - a general loosening of morals and tolerance/acceptance of what used to be known as bad behavior. It is incredible that this collection of successful business people could be led over the cliff like a herd of lemmings.

155 posted on 05/24/2013 4:55:45 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: chessplayer

As a christian and a deacon in my church, this policy change has created an untenable position for me. Since I am being forced to choose between my faith and participating in an organization that no longer reflects my values and no longer maintains it’s stated principles, I am left with no choice but to resign my position within the Boy Scouts and disassociate myself.

Effective Immediately, I will no longer support the Boy Scouts of America with either my volunteer hours or with my funds. I resign from both my position as Assistant Scout Master and Committee Member. The next scout meeting that I attend will be to publicly and before the troop resign and take off my scouting shirt.

156 posted on 05/24/2013 4:58:13 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: who knows what evil?; a fool in paradise
64 2 other states are also trying to adopt this law.

Do you know which two?

Take your pick from the "lost" 13 ...


157 posted on 05/24/2013 5:02:30 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
73 If Boy Scout membership doesn’t decline by at LEAST 30% I’ll be surprised.

The "suits" at BSA National did their cyphering and projected they would lose ~11% of the 2012 membership of 2.6 million. Apparently that was acceptable collateral damage. Sadly, I suspect their arithmetic may be close to reality. I would prefer a massive vote of the feet ... but I don't see it in this culture today.

158 posted on 05/24/2013 5:07:04 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Vigilanteman
89 ... The gaystapo may think they have won this round, but wait until the individual troops insist that they abide by the same "morally straight" part of the scout oath as normal heterosexual boys.

While I admire positive thinking, a healthy dose of reality is needed here. One of the big talking points all of the big guns on the conservative side of this issue said this decision will violate the 2000 SCOTUS BSA v Dale case and open BSA up to further "lawfare" by the homosexualists. The 2nd talking point was that homosexualists will press forward with lawfare against the new membership rule which forbids open homosexual adults.

159 posted on 05/24/2013 5:15:33 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: DBeers

I’ll have to admit, after gay ‘activists’ firebombed a bunch of their church/temples buildings, they may have decided giving in was safer than being right.

160 posted on 05/24/2013 5:23:47 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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