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McCain Accuses Tea Party Colleagues Of Pushing Dems Too Far
CBS DC ^ | 5/23/13

Posted on 05/24/2013 7:34:16 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

A long-simmering feud between establishment Republicans and Tea Partyers broke into full view Thursday, with Sen. John McCain accusing younger colleagues of overplaying their hands and tempting Democrats to change Senate rules that protect the minority party.

Tactics for dealing with the government’s budget and debt became the latest quarrel In a string of them between McCain —sometimes joined by....

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 113th; idiot; rino; teaparty
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Arizona, will you ever fire this idiot?
1 posted on 05/24/2013 7:34:16 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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2 posted on 05/24/2013 7:36:41 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hey Juan! STFU! You are irrelevant now! Go back to your ‘RAT gangsta buddies.


3 posted on 05/24/2013 7:36:42 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Old RINOs never die, they hang around forever stinking up the place.


4 posted on 05/24/2013 7:37:42 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell, Huxley and Rand warned us about 0bama's USA)
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To: SoFloFreeper

McCain needs to get his jaw straightened out.


5 posted on 05/24/2013 7:38:49 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

John needs to sit down and shut up. Better yet, just GO HOME.


6 posted on 05/24/2013 7:38:55 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: SoFloFreeper

I see it as liberal/democrat/extremists pushing their agenda against AMERICA too far.


7 posted on 05/24/2013 7:38:56 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

fujm.

judas goat.

obama sh1t eater.


8 posted on 05/24/2013 7:39:16 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

9 posted on 05/24/2013 7:39:50 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SoFloFreeper

I sure wish I could. There are too damn many big government Republicans here that will vote for McCain come hell or high water.
I think the only way we can get rid of him is, we convince him to switch parties. Hell, he acts more like a Democrat than a Republican now. Think Arlen Specter.


10 posted on 05/24/2013 7:40:12 AM PDT by Tupelo (The Government lies, then the media lies to cover up the government lies.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

McCain still getting his talking points from the WH.


11 posted on 05/24/2013 7:40:36 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SoFloFreeper

By Dem standards, and by McCain standards, pushing the Dems to govern responsibly and in accordance with the Constitution is pushing them too far.


12 posted on 05/24/2013 7:41:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The veneer is utterly removed from the Democrat in Republicans clothing. We all see him for who he is. Frankly, it was shocking in 2008 and even more shocking now that he got the republican nod to run for president with their label attached to him.

Or is he just exposing the mindset of the republican establishment?


13 posted on 05/24/2013 7:41:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I wonder if he was this kind of backstabber when he was a POW. Incredible that this man has public office.


14 posted on 05/24/2013 7:41:30 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: cuban leaf

That is exactly the problem.

McCain is illustrative of the entire GOP establishment. McCain is also illustrative of why the GOP is getting creamed.

McCain please shut up. If you won’t quit, at least shut up.

Meanwhile Tea Party you earned it, and your time is now.

Stand up and lead, Tea Party. For real.

Now.


15 posted on 05/24/2013 7:44:04 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: laweeks

McCain should be given a cup of quarters and dropped off at the Dog Track.


16 posted on 05/24/2013 7:44:59 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SoFloFreeper

He broke it.

McCain and other scumbag politicians just like him have damn near destroyed the country.

Now he spends his time criticizing better men and women who are trying to clean up his mess.


17 posted on 05/24/2013 7:47:26 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: Tupelo

Read my tag line!


18 posted on 05/24/2013 7:47:31 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yea, the TEA Party made them do it. Just like the Republicans made Clinton lie about BJ’s from Lewinski in the WH.


19 posted on 05/24/2013 7:48:35 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: massgopguy
McCain should be given a cup of quarters and dropped off at the Dog Track.

Hell, the dogs would probably bite the a-hole.

20 posted on 05/24/2013 7:49:59 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Tupelo

Juan is a prisoner in the ‘Rat War on America.


21 posted on 05/24/2013 7:50:53 AM PDT by Paladin2
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22 posted on 05/24/2013 7:51:45 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The senate has never seen one like Cruz. After all, it’s been almost 6
months and they still have not “turned him to the ways of DC”.
Go Cruz...the real maverick.


23 posted on 05/24/2013 7:51:47 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: SoFloFreeper

This just ruined my day...McLame irritates the heck out of me.


24 posted on 05/24/2013 7:52:19 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: SoFloFreeper

so what??
you’re nothing to the tea party mclame


25 posted on 05/24/2013 7:52:31 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I'll surrender my guns alright - bullets first)
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To: SoFloFreeper
"The United States of El Norte"

26 posted on 05/24/2013 7:53:27 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I see what’s happening here. When Reid goes to change things and invoke the “Nuclear Option” McCain will then blame the Tea Party upstarts for causing it

God McCain sounds like a Democrat! He should change his party affiliation already. Don’t get me wrong, I salute his service and really think he went through hell as a POW.

However, that was then. This is now. McCain needs to go. Who does the Tea Party have in Arizona that can give him a run for his (wife’s) money?


27 posted on 05/24/2013 7:53:37 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: SoFloFreeper

McCain is the Democrats/Media’s most useful idiot.


28 posted on 05/24/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by Vision (We are not descended from fearful men)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Let me get this straight... McCain is caving to a threat by the scumbag Democrats?
A threat?


29 posted on 05/24/2013 7:55:16 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Red in Blue PA

McStain, Democrat by any definition.


30 posted on 05/24/2013 7:56:25 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Lancey Howard

McCain is saying - “Oh please don’t make them mad!”

Pathetic.


31 posted on 05/24/2013 7:57:11 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

THAT is DISGUSTING!


32 posted on 05/24/2013 7:58:33 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
McLame’s easy to explain.He checked into the Hanoi Hilton as a decent,respectable man and...after years of despicable torture at the hands of Communist animals...he checked out as an utterly broken man.He's damaged goods,folks.He's been a threat to this nation every since leaving North Vietnam.
33 posted on 05/24/2013 7:58:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Keep in mind that regardlessof what we think about him, he is the sweetheart of the voters of Arizona. Each time he is up for re-election, they affirm their love for him by returning him to the Senate. John Mc Cain and his busom buddy obama will be forever a curse upon decent people.


34 posted on 05/24/2013 7:58:55 AM PDT by sport
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Meanwhile Tea Party you earned it, and your time is now.
Stand up and lead, Tea Party. For real.

I firmly believe that the reason we have not heard from Tea Party folks in the last few years is because people like McCain and other senior senators have told them to stand down. I believe ever word I just typed too.


35 posted on 05/24/2013 8:00:03 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Aria

What is disgusting is the way Asshat McLame treats the Tea Party!


36 posted on 05/24/2013 8:00:51 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

37 posted on 05/24/2013 8:01:21 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Cozy...One picture worth a thous...


38 posted on 05/24/2013 8:02:17 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: sport

Addendum to post 34: And I will never be able to cleanse my soul for voting for the sob in 2008. That is why, unlike some on this forum, I respect those who , out of principle, refused to vote for Romney in 2012.


39 posted on 05/24/2013 8:02:31 AM PDT by sport
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Everyone can reach Juan at 202-224-3121 to share their thoughts. I’m sure he wants to hear from all of us, ya think?


40 posted on 05/24/2013 8:04:16 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SoFloFreeper
Click here to watch Cruz destroy McCain on the Senate floor. I don't care if he is NBC or not, Cruz would make a great president.
41 posted on 05/24/2013 8:07:26 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

True....why do the voters of Arizona keep voting for this loud mouthed RINO? We had a chance to get rid of him with JD Hayworth...but no...McCain fought against JD wayyy harder than he did against Obama. I’ve always suspected that being a POW permanently affected him.

But the image of McCain and zero kissing...ACCK!


42 posted on 05/24/2013 8:09:22 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Oh yeah Sarah, he’s one with the Tea Party. We can take that to the bank. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!


43 posted on 05/24/2013 8:12:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why doesn’t McSlaim just change parties to Dimocrat?


44 posted on 05/24/2013 8:12:47 AM PDT by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: austinaero

That is exactly right, McCain is giving Reid cover.

McConnell is such a weak “leader” he probably doesn’t mind either. I don’t think McCain would be this far off the reservation again without some tacit approval from McConnell.

McConnell wants the Reid conference deal but doesn’t want to get his hands dirty in an election year. He probably doesn’t even mind the nuclear option because then the Dems can get everything they want through the senate in straight party line votes. No tough votes for the GOP Senators to take at that point.

These guys are sickening. Boehner & McConnell. Laurel and Hardy. Same old milquetoast loser strategy snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.


45 posted on 05/24/2013 8:13:23 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: SoFloFreeper
It is easy to know who was on the side of the angels in this dispute. John McCain has been a source of problems to us for years. Some time ago when he was making his run for the presidency I tried to understand the essential character of John McCain. Here is my conclusion posted once already today which I believe has stood the test of time:

Understanding John McCain

McCain's Vietnam experience was so shattering that he sees the world through a new lens, the experience so profound that he has emerged from it with a lifelong commitment to country. This gives credibility to McCain's claim that he is a maverick, beholden not to party but to principle and country. This claim to independence is necessary in a political climate in which the present occupant of the White House is found to be unsatisfactory by nearly three out of four Americans. So, the narrative explains why a voter can believe at John McCain is different from ordinary politicians, especially ordinary Republican politicians, and they can't believe he should be trusted to embark on a new course away from current administration policies.

At the end of his acceptance speech, McCain recited how he came to be utterly broken but then restored, even redeemed with a new commitment to service to others when a fellow prisoner urged him by prison telegraph not to quit and die but instead to carry on the fight out of respect for his comrades who even then were carrying on the fight for him.

Psychologists and scholars of religious experience, especially Christian scholars, have long been aware of the empowering release generated by total surrender of the will. One can describe this in psychological language, or in Biblical language, or even in evangelical idiom.

Whatever language one uses to describe these epiphanies there is no question that very often they are real and long lasting. Psychologists would begin to explain the phenomenon by reference to the ego. An Old Testament scholar might think in terms of the first and second Commandments and the muscular faith which follows adherence to them. Christians speak of dying to the self, picking up the cross and following the Savior to become a new man-to be born again. Perhaps the most famous example is recounted in the Book of Acts which tells that Saul of Tarsus was physically knocked off his horse by the Holy Spirit. Saul experiences an epiphany, Saul becomes Paul, and is transformed from a murderous persecutor of Christians to a fully committed martyr who becomes the great evangelist of the early church, indomitable in spirit, inflexible in commitment, and-like the other disciples- utterly fearless. Significantly, Paul, the newbie Christian, does not shrink later from taking on Peter the acknowledged leader of the disciples "to his face" to dispute matters of doctrine.

In contemporary history we have the example of George Bush and his transforming encounter with Reverend Billy Graham. Indeed, we have the Reverend Billy Graham's own epiphany in the forest. We have the numberless examples recited daily in meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous. It is from the success of this group that countless so-called "12 step" groups have been formed to apply successfully the same empowering message of surrender.

The important thing to understand about these epiphanies is that when they are genuine they are often life-long and tremendously empowering. Lives really are transformed forever. Criminals go straight, alcoholics stay sober, and the miserable are made happy. In fact, these newly born spirits enjoy their new condition so much that they seek ways to prolong the joy they have obtained in their moment of sweet release. Almost universally, these people find that service to others is the surest way to prolong that wonderful feeling of well-being.

Isolated, sick, starved and beaten beyond human endurance, John McCain ultimately broke and signed a confession which he mistakenly assumed amounted to a betrayal of his country. Who was this wretched man who lay so anguished in that cell? In his memoir and in his speech, McCain described himself as a kind of a hotshot jet jock, a screwup, a discipline problem in school, and an accomplished accumulator of demerits as a midshipman. Evidently, he was also an enthusiastic swordsman. In short, he was an arrogant SOB. Now, in that cell, he had fallen far. The classic description of the crushing of the ego. At this pivotal moment came the means of his redemption via the prison telegraph: Service to others out of love of country. In his speech McCain declared:

"And I wasn't my own man anymore, I was my country's"

And now we know the rest of the story. This is not to say that John McCain was instantly sanctified in all respects, far from it. He still had to swim his way out of a giant mental, moral and spiritual hangover from his ordeal. His screwing around would cost him his marriage before he could swim to shore. Even today, the old self bursts out in temper. But when one lays this template over the rest of John McCain’s career, one should have little difficulty accepting the story as being essentially true (I for one believe it) and to accept it as a convincing explanation of his career and his conception of his role as president.

Before considering the implications of all of this for conservatives, it is instructive to consider what it means to liberals. [And to compare it to Barak Obama's story]

In a word: "nothing." Liberals do not see it because they cannot see it. They simply do not get it. The whole idea of gaining empowerment through surrendering is as psychologically repugnant to liberals as is the idea of accepting a higher authority in their lives. Consider the Democrat party to be a gigantic creaking contrivance to legitimatize liberals in their insatiable quest to feed their egos. The job of this machine is to provide rationalizations. The obvious examples are sex without consequences and abortion without guilt. These examples demonstrate that the rationalization machine can be quite deadly as it kills 3 to 4 million babies a year. The pernicious doctrines emanating from The Frankfurt School such as moral relativism, feminism, and critical theory find application not just in cultural issues like abortion which kill babies but across the board, touching all government policy and every aspect of our lives.

To repeat, the whole purpose of this Democrat apparatus is to turn thinking on its head and provide a language to liberals so they can continue to play God (especially with other people's lives). Liberals will never about-face and cast away everything that feeds their ego addictions. That is why we hear them using English words but it comes out as a different language.

What about the implications for us conservatives of John McCain's epiphany?

Well that of course depends on how John McCain defines putting country first. It's quite clear that he is not replaced his giant ego trip with a classic Reaganesque conservative philosophy. The danger for conservatives is that John McCain has no identifiable framework, no principled political philosophy upon which to identify the nation's interest.

The great danger to us conservatives, and of course to the nation as a whole, is that John McCain operates ad hoc.

This is what George Will has been alluding to in his column in which he expressed his dismay that McCain has called for the firing of SEC Chairman Cox, "It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed"

We know what Barak Obama's vision for America is, it is written down, not in his own autobiographies, but in Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. We know also that John McCain has been intensely energized with a vision for America. We're just not quite sure what it is that informs that vision.


46 posted on 05/24/2013 8:14:51 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: jpsb
Opps better link better here

If you are a Cruz fan or someone that has had it with McCain this is a must see video. 11 minutes of FU JM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmjM9JHnktg&feature=player_embedded

47 posted on 05/24/2013 8:15:33 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: napscoordinator
I firmly believe that the reason we have not heard from Tea Party folks in the last few years is because people like McCain and other senior senators have told them to stand down. I believe ever word I just typed too.

That doesn't make sense. If you were someone of principles to begin with, and Tea Party values specifically, and some RINO asshat told you to sit down and shut up, would you do it?

48 posted on 05/24/2013 8:17:05 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

McCain is the McClellan of this war.


49 posted on 05/24/2013 8:21:05 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

let them change the rule!

(nothing is getting past the Tea Party controlled house anyway)

plus! as a huge bonus the damn filibuster will be gone when we retake the Senate next year!


50 posted on 05/24/2013 8:21:11 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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