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Why John McCain Hates Republicans Again
New York Magazine ^ | 5/24/2013 | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 05/24/2013 11:53:04 AM PDT by nickcarraway

John McCain is a cranky man in general, and the latest punks he told to get off his lawn include tea-party hoodlums Ted Cruz and Mike Lee. (Addressing the latter, McCain growled, “maybe the senator from Utah ought to learn a little bit more about how business has been done in the Congress of the United States.”) McCain does not seem to be showing much remorse either. Reporters are writing stories about his increasingly vocal recriminations, and McCain is tweeting them out:

There is more going on here than just another dyspeptic outburst. McCain is displaying increasing signs of agitation with the ideological currents driving his party. His journey from orthodox Republican to the left edge of his party and back may have one more reversal yet. The basic way to understand McCain is that neoconservative foreign policy is his ideological core. Everything else about his ideology can shift radically depending on his ambitions, circumstances, and whom he’s most angry with at any given moment. He favored immigration reform under George W. Bush, abandoned it to refashion himself as a “build the dang fence” border hawk, and, in the wake of last November, embraced it again. He fashioned himself as a modern Teddy Roosevelt environmentalist crusader during his anti-Bush phase, sponsored a cap and trade bill, but decided to run as a “drill here, drill now” conservative in 2008, abandoning his own cap and trade plan once Obama tried to pass it.

But the foreign policy hawkishness has remained constant. And the foreign policy hawks have found themselves the biggest losers in the GOP’s postelection ideological restructuring. One aspect of this change is that the party, after assailing Obama from the right, has suddenly found fertile terrain in attacking him from the left. Rand Paul’s surprise talking filibuster speech against drone use in March picked up out-of-nowhere support from Republicans of all stripes — save McCain, who lambasted him as an ignoramus.

The biggest defeat the neocons have suffered is sequestration. When Republicans signed on to the sequestration plan in 2011, as a way to get out of the debt-ceiling crisis House Republicans had instigated, defense hawks were assured the across-the-board spending cuts would never be carried out. Everybody assumed the 2012 election would settle the budget dispute, or in some way encourage the sides to cut some kind of deal. Instead, most conservatives have flipped on the question, going from decrying sequestration as a threat to national security to happily insisting they now love it and want to keep it forever and ever.

That leaves McCain and a handful of remaining committed hawks hoping for a budget deal that could reverse the sequestration cuts to the Pentagon. That fight within the party is now playing itself out in the form of a somewhat abstruse fight over budget procedure. Republicans lifted the debt ceiling last spring on the condition that Senate Democrats passed a budget and — for reasons nobody outside the party understood — hailed the return to regular budgeting as a great victory. Almost immediately after that, they figured out that this was actually terrible for them. If the House and Senate had to reconcile their budgets, that would lead to a negotiation and a compromise somewhere in the middle — which is what Obama has been desperately trying to get and which conservative Republicans have been equally desperately trying to prevent. The conservative position is that, rather than negotiate, they want to use the threat of refusing to lift the debt ceiling to extract unilateral concessions from Obama.

That’s the context for McCain’s latest spat with his party’s right wing. Lee, Paul, and other right-wingers want to prevent any budget agreement by requiring that budget talks not lift the debt ceiling. This, of course, would sabotage the negotiations before they begin — Democrats would realize they couldn’t strike any deal because Republicans would come back in the fall demanding more concessions in return for not blowing up the world economy.

And so McCain’s disagreement over what appears to be a technical point of Senate process is actually a fundamental split over the party’s approach toward Obama. The conservatives want to continue their stance of total opposition and instigating crises — the stance that has defined the party throughout the Obama era — while McCain wants to engage in compromise and negotiation. McCain’s softening stance toward Obama can be seen in other ways. He broke with his party to support the Manchin-Toomey background-check bill. He met with Obama last week and discussed immigration and budget issues.

Yesterday he lauded Obama’s foreign policy address, promising to support a rewriting of the 2001 authorization of military force. “Such legislation would be a fitting legacy for this Congress — and for President Obama,” he said. Perhaps McCain has gotten past his bitterness from 2008. Or maybe he’s just found different people to be bitter about.


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1 posted on 05/24/2013 11:53:04 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

it is just about power.

he and others like him, do not care about the constitution, merit, right, or wrong as long as he keeps his personal power.


2 posted on 05/24/2013 11:54:29 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: nickcarraway

throw his ass off of every committee he’s on and tell him to register democrat.


3 posted on 05/24/2013 11:56:10 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: nickcarraway

maybe he’s fallen off the wagon


4 posted on 05/24/2013 11:57:03 AM PDT by molson209
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To: nickcarraway

In other words, he’s been in the government too damned long.

Voinovich disease has set in for good.


5 posted on 05/24/2013 11:58:30 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: nickcarraway

McCain is a disgusting old RINO. Without Sarah Palin on the ticket I probbly would have sat out the election. Something I have never done in the 40 odd years I have been able to vote.


6 posted on 05/24/2013 12:01:42 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: nickcarraway

Elections are not a very good substitute for term limits. As time goes on, the electorate becomes corrupted along with the politician. John McCain case in point.


7 posted on 05/24/2013 12:03:06 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: nickcarraway

McPain has no soul. He lives for “the deal”. Principles don’t matter. If people aren’t willing to deal to get a pieace of crap it ticks the old SOB off.


8 posted on 05/24/2013 12:03:09 PM PDT by vpintheak (We are the chosen few! Be thankful for it!)
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To: nickcarraway
Addressing the latter, McCain growled, “maybe the senator from Utah ought to learn a little bit more about how business has been done in the Congress of the United States.

John, you dolt! These folks were sent to Congress because their constituents were very tired of how business has been done in the Congress of the United States.

9 posted on 05/24/2013 12:04:58 PM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: nickcarraway

McCain’s behavior is a mirror image of the last couple of years of Arlen Specter. Most be the Senate Longevity Disease.


10 posted on 05/24/2013 12:06:19 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: MtBaldy
“Without Sarah Palin on the ticket I probbly would have sat out the election”

I know I would have sat it out no thinking at all..I voted for her not the screwball RINO!!1

11 posted on 05/24/2013 12:06:44 PM PDT by PLD
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t know who I hate more, Obama or McCain.


12 posted on 05/24/2013 12:08:18 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: nickcarraway
demanding more concessions in return for not blowing up the world economy.

If the world economy is dependent on us borrowing and spending trillions of dollars that this generation cannot possibly repay, and thereby immorally robbing our posterity of their God-given right to government by consent, than the damned world economy needs to blow up.

Immorality never works out over the long run anyway. You end up with nothing, after having sold your soul to get it.

13 posted on 05/24/2013 12:12:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that they cannot carry out their plans.' -- Job 5:12)
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To: mosaicwolf

Longevity!

When was he EVER a friend to the Constitution and the Republican party?

I called his office the day after the clintoon impeachment failure, when the senate threw the case back.

McCain was in charge of the Armed Services Committee. His staffer had no interest in the reaction of the American people let alone a room full of DS Veteran fighter pilots.

They were fundraising. 20 Dec 1998 FFundraising.

He’s been on the s list since.

Could never understand ANYONE supporting him. Now look.

No No No.

I wonder about him


14 posted on 05/24/2013 12:12:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: nickcarraway

Juan McLame deserves another extended stay at the Hanoi Hilton.


15 posted on 05/24/2013 12:13:21 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: nickcarraway

He did not have to waste so much ink. All he had to say is:

McCain = RINO


16 posted on 05/24/2013 12:17:03 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: nickcarraway

John McCain is a collaborator.


17 posted on 05/24/2013 12:17:58 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: bmwcyle
I don’t know who I hate more, Obama or McCain.

I'm in the same quandry but lean toward hating McCain more just because I've despised him for so damn long and he gave us the obamanation.

18 posted on 05/24/2013 12:19:28 PM PDT by pgkdan (Some taglines never go away....)
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To: nickcarraway

Couldn’t fly, worthless Aviator was the reason he was a POW Hero and why he is here today. An absolute Jerk.


19 posted on 05/24/2013 12:20:55 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: nickcarraway
Why John McCain Hates Republicans Again

Because it is not six months or less to a re-election?

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20 posted on 05/24/2013 12:21:36 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh McCain.....You've done it again!!!

21 posted on 05/24/2013 12:22:33 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (I call it messin' with the kid.)
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To: nickcarraway

>> [McCain’s] journey from orthodox Republican to the left edge of his party and back...

I missed the “and back” somehow. I must have blinked during that part.


22 posted on 05/24/2013 12:25:32 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: nickcarraway
Those who, like John McCain, have held "office" in government for extended periods become too occupied with the trappings and habits of office than with the great principles of freedom their "office" was designed to protect and defend.

Note, please, Edmund Burke on the effect of "office" on a government official:

". . . it may be truly said, that men too much conversant with office are rarely minds of remarkable enlargement. Their habits of office are apt to give them a turn to think the substance of business not to be much more important than the forms in which it is conducted. These forms are adapted to ordinary occasions; and therefore persons who are nurtured in office do admirably well as long as things go on in their common order; but when the high roads are broken up, and the waters out, when a new and troubled scene is opened, and the file affords no precedent, then it is that a greater knowledge of mankind, and a far more extensive comprehension of things, is requisite, than ever office gave, or than office can ever give." - Speech of Edmund Burke, Esq., on American Taxation April 19, 1774 [Second Edition. Dodsley, 1775.] here.

Now that a new generation of thinkers, men and women who have utilized new technologies to read the great literature of liberty surrounding the Declaration of Independence, the American Revolution, and the framing of "the People's" Constitution for limiting their government, the old guard, like McCain, who merely sought "office" and perpetuated themselves in that office are understandably without a clue as to how to respond to discussions of principles and ideas.

It is up to us, the citizens of America, to join the new guard who understand that there are ideas too essential to liberty to be traded away in the kind of "habits of office" (Burke) McCain refers to in his sniping, ". . . maybe the senator from Utah ought to learn a little bit more about how business has been done in the Congress of the United States.”

Now, "when the high roads are broken up, and the waters out, when a new and troubled scene is opened, and the file affords no precedent," is the time for statesmen whose minds are focused on first principles and how to preserve liberty for future generations.

Senators Lee and Cruz, please attend to Burke's wisdom, for it is high time for "a greater knowledge of mankind, and a far more extensive comprehension of things. . . than ever office gave, or than office can ever give." McCain's focus on a "legacy" for this Congress and for President Obama reflects a small mind focused on "office"--not a "greater knowledge" of the sad history of civilization's struggle for liberty.

23 posted on 05/24/2013 12:26:59 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: nickcarraway

He never should have survived his primary.


24 posted on 05/24/2013 12:36:28 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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25 posted on 05/24/2013 12:36:55 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: loveliberty2

Bravo! Remarkably well put.


26 posted on 05/24/2013 12:41:10 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: nickcarraway

You mean he stopped at some point? I hadn’t noticed.


27 posted on 05/24/2013 12:41:19 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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28 posted on 05/24/2013 12:41:45 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: nickcarraway

McCain doesn’t hate republicans. Just conservatives.


29 posted on 05/24/2013 12:42:52 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: TADSLOS
McCain doesn’t hate republicans. Just conservatives.

Now that is a dang good point and accurate.

30 posted on 05/24/2013 12:45:24 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy......Nuff said.)
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To: glorgau

Thank you. Share, if you wish, this bit of Burke’s wisdom which so aptly describes the minds of people like McCain and others like him.


31 posted on 05/24/2013 12:50:35 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: nickcarraway

McCain graduated 895th out of 900 in his Naval Academy class. That explains a lot.


32 posted on 05/24/2013 12:55:51 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: nickcarraway

McCainiac is jealous that Cruz, Lee, and Paul are getting media coverage that only he—the ultimate media whore—should be getting.

The most dangerous place in D.C. is between a TV camera and McCainiac (or UpChuck Shumer).


33 posted on 05/24/2013 1:41:43 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: longtermmemmory

it is just about power.

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Exactly!


34 posted on 05/24/2013 2:33:31 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: nickcarraway
"The conservatives want to continue their stance of total opposition and instigating crises — the stance that has defined the party throughout the Obama era — while McCain wants to engage in compromise and negotiation."

My dear Mr. Chait. This is as simple as it gets: "It's not about Obama." Do you understand?

It's Obama's policies, actions, intentions and ideology that conservatives oppose. You could put any cookie cutter liberal/leftist in the Presidency and the opposition of conservatives would be the same.

It's liberals/leftists who create leader/cult figures (Wilson, FDR, Kennedy and now Obama. We'll avoid the foreign examples.) And the crises are a result of Obama's actions, not some nefarious plan by conservatives. Spending his way to (our) oblivion should be opposed by every rational, responsible person.

Mr. Chait, that you make this only about persons, just demonstrates how shallow and stupid you are.

You're right about McCain, he has no principles. He always tries to put himself at the fulcrum of whatever issue there is, so he himself and determine the outcome. He wants to be the guy that makes the deal. He thinks he has power then. McCain's clueless as to the consequences of his deal, he just wants to be the center of attention.

My dear Chait, it astounds me that someone actually pays you to produce your drivel.

35 posted on 05/24/2013 2:36:57 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: nickcarraway

We shouldn’t be thinking about McCain. He should be ostracized from decent American society and made irrelevant. The best thing he can do is disappear and raise old goats to yell at himself.


36 posted on 05/24/2013 5:06:48 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
"The conservatives want to continue their stance of total opposition and instigating crises — the stance that has defined the party throughout the Obama era — while McCain wants to engage in compromise and negotiation."
This was the exact stance of the Democrat party when George Bush was President...and not one person in their party offered to "engage in compromise and negotiation".

But nobody in the media cared about it then.

37 posted on 05/24/2013 5:18:39 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: SharpRightTurn
McCainiac is jealous that Cruz, Lee, and Paul are getting media coverage that only he—the ultimate media whore—should be getting.

Yup, McCain is really just a narcissist. It isn't more complicated than that.

He was more than happy to be the big maverick standing up to his Party when it suited him politically and emotionally (read: got him the attention he felt he deserved).

Now in the twilight of his career, having failed to become President, he desperately wants to leave a legacy. And that means rebranding himself as a "statesman".

Which means brokering bipartisan deals. Doesn't matter what the deals actually are, just so long as he gets to claim credit (and get his name into some historical footnotes) for them.

Unfortunately, pesky mavericks like Cruz, Lee and Rand Paul keep tripping him up. He knows this is pretty much his last chance to be relevant, so his anger is borne out of frustration at being one-upped. What people need to keep in mind is that if he was 15 years younger, and was positioning himself to run for President in 2016 or 2020, McCain would be right there alongside Lee, Cruz and Paul, not launching petty attacks against them.

It really isn't any more complex than that. I think a lot of people are giving McCain a LOT more credit than he deserves ...
38 posted on 05/24/2013 5:19:08 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Notary Sojac

He’s done it again, but for some bizarre reason he still thrills the people of AZ, who like all the attention he gets.


39 posted on 05/24/2013 5:47:59 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: sergeantdave

I would say that John McPain makes the late Thomas E. Dewey, another known for his arrogance, look like a genuine statesman.


40 posted on 05/24/2013 5:49:35 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: nickcarraway

translation: John McCain is an ill tempered crank who tilts with the winds, the winds of his current personal displeasure, the winds of populism on something, the winds the media blows his way, the winds of come hither and join us the dims blow his way, or just whatever wind he senses when he sticks his finger..................


41 posted on 05/24/2013 6:06:57 PM PDT by Wuli
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42 posted on 05/24/2013 6:14:51 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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43 posted on 05/24/2013 6:31:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: layman
McCain graduated 895th out of 900 in his Naval Academy class. That explains a lot.<<

Yeah!..and got moved up 6 places because of who his father was...

44 posted on 05/25/2013 1:57:39 PM PDT by M-cubed
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