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More than 100 Ohioans attempted to vote twice in presidential race
http://www.toledoblade.com/ ^ | 5/24/2013 | JIM PROVANCE

Posted on 05/24/2013 1:20:54 PM PDT by Whenifhow

COLUMBUS — Twenty people voted both in battleground Ohio and in another state during last year’s presidential election, while 115 more voted twice in the state, the top elections official said on Thursday.

In the majority of those cases, the fraudulent ballots were caught and not counted, but in some cases they did make it through the state’s defenses, according to Secretary of State Jon Husted.

“Voter fraud does exist, but it’s not an epidemic,” he said. “No amount of fraud is acceptable, and if you cheat, you will be caught, and you will be held accountable.”

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Those 20 interstate voters have been referred to Attorney General Mike DeWine for potential charges. In northwest Ohio, one voter apiece in Wood and Allen counties are among the 20.

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“We have a number now,” said Peg Rosenfeld, elections specialist for the League of Women Voters of Ohio. “You can’t ever say that it [voter fraud] is totally unknown, but they make one very good point: If you try to cheat, you will be caught. There are so many safeguards. You’re not going to get away with it."

The fraud cases represent just 0.002397 percent of the 5.6 million who voted last fall in Ohio -- one 200th of 1 percent, Ms. Rosenfeld said.

“These are 135 cases that have been referred to prosecutors,” she said. “They aren’t all convictions. They’re just accusations."

(Excerpt) Read more at toledoblade.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionfraud; sourcetitlenoturl; votefraud; voterfraud
Newspaper Headline as above

Online headline: Ohio voter fraud relatively low

1 posted on 05/24/2013 1:20:54 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; BlindedByTruth; ...

Ohio ping


2 posted on 05/24/2013 1:21:57 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
Tip of the iceberg.

For every one they catch, there are a hundred that they didn't.

3 posted on 05/24/2013 1:22:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the sexual deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: Whenifhow

Is there something wrong with that? If you have a Green Card?


4 posted on 05/24/2013 1:24:35 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Whenifhow

This is how democrats get elected.


5 posted on 05/24/2013 1:24:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“For every one they catch, there are a hundred that they didn’t. “

Yeah. Like the busload of people, who didn’t speak English, being shunted around from precinct to precinct.


6 posted on 05/24/2013 1:25:36 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Whenifhow
Let's get the headline straight,Toledo Blade...it should read “more than 100 Ohioans failed in their attempts to vote more than once”.
7 posted on 05/24/2013 1:26:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Whenifhow

I would guess that to be a spit in the bucket, and nothing compared to voters who shouldn’t have voted the one time, or dead voters. Where there are Democrats, there is corruption, lots and lots of corruption.


8 posted on 05/24/2013 1:31:11 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Yeah. Like the busload of people, who didn’t speak English, being shunted around from precinct to precinct.

Democrats busing in Somali Muslims who can’t speak English, likely aren’t citizens

9 posted on 05/24/2013 1:33:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the sexual deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: Gay State Conservative; E. Pluribus Unum

Toledo Blade...it should read “more than 100 Ohioans failed in their attempts to vote more than once”.

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Sadly I think they did vote twice, but got caught (votes counted at the time). And yes, for every one that gets caught there are others who do not get caught.


10 posted on 05/24/2013 1:33:28 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

> Ohio voter fraud relatively low

That would be funny if it weren’t a blatant lie.

They are only showing the very tip of the iceberg.

Oh, and which of us needs to guess for which party these criminals voted.

They should be prohibited from voting anywhere for anything forever.


11 posted on 05/24/2013 1:35:45 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Whenifhow

“No amount of fraud is acceptable, and if you cheat, you will be caught, and you will be held accountable.”
But only if you are Conservative. What? You don’t like it? No health care for you!


12 posted on 05/24/2013 1:37:14 PM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Whenifhow

Those are just the numbers they CAUGHT.


13 posted on 05/24/2013 1:38:01 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Whenifhow

Funny thing. Never once in my life have I ever considered voting twice, or that it would even be allowed.


14 posted on 05/24/2013 1:39:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Whenifhow

Only 100 got caught!


15 posted on 05/24/2013 1:39:21 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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16 posted on 05/24/2013 1:44:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Westbrook

They should be prohibited from voting anywhere for anything forever.

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The consequences should be painful for voting more than once. Perhaps there is another additional consequence besides revoking voting privileges ?


17 posted on 05/24/2013 1:47:32 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

No mention in the story as to the party affliliation of the 20 voters who double dipped.

Gee, I wonder if all were Democrats?


18 posted on 05/24/2013 1:49:04 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Whenifhow

Only 100? Add a few zero’s to that and you’ll have the number of dead people in Chicago still voting every election.


19 posted on 05/24/2013 1:51:58 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I am convinced that Romney really won the popular vote but O stole it in the end. Stories like this will continue to come out. I never believed “the base stayed home” argument either.

After Benghazi and the IRS scandels, how hard is it to believe they stole it?

20 posted on 05/24/2013 1:54:11 PM PDT by Dansong
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To: Whenifhow

Total Propaganda. Massive voter fraud in Ohio. This whole story was ginned up just to say there is not much voter fraud for the brain dead.


21 posted on 05/24/2013 1:55:51 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Let’s get the headline straight,Toledo Blade...it should read “more than 100 Ohioans failed in their attempts to vote more than once”.
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.....because they were stupid and tried to vote multiple times IN THEIR OWN NAMES.

Thousands of others weren’t stupid and voted, usually multiple times, in the names of tens of thousands of other registered voters who did not bother to vote.

This is why ENFORCED voter ID is needed. And it is why measures against absentee voter fraud need to be enacted.


22 posted on 05/24/2013 2:12:56 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Whenifhow

With voting at 130%+ of registered precinct dem voters, that’s fraud.

Philly, Pitt, Cleveland, Toledo, Chicago, Miami, LA, NYC and a thousand other cities account for it, bigtime. Plus, the illegals, the dead, unregistereds, bus-ins etc.

What a junk article.


23 posted on 05/24/2013 2:30:19 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: House Atreides
Thousands of others weren’t stupid and voted, usually multiple times, in the names of tens of thousands of other registered voters who did not bother to vote.

Now that John Friggin Kerry has moved to State we're having a special Senate election here in the Gay State.When voting in the primary a few weeks ago I did the same thing I've done in the last several elections...I asked if I was required to show an ID.As I reached for my wallet the poll worker said "we don't want to see your ID,it's not required by law".While I was quiet and polite the poll worker responded to me in a loud and aggressive fashion.She was so loud that the cop...a member of a left wing police union...started to move toward me and gave me a dirty look as I moved toward the voting booth.It would appear that the entrenched power structure in this state (read: the Rat Party) doesn't take kindly to voter ID.Not at *all* kindly.

24 posted on 05/24/2013 2:35:54 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: carriage_hill

What a junk article.

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The article is not accurate about the amount of voter fraud. The question is - is there anything that can be done to prevent this in the future? And who or which organization has that task?


25 posted on 05/24/2013 2:42:23 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Without direct poll supervision in thousands of precincts known for voting fraud, there’s no way to stop it.

Does anyone know if this is true? I’ve read it for years, in score of publications.

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/


26 posted on 05/24/2013 2:53:18 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Whenifhow

Check this out:

http://judicialview.com/Court-Cases/Civil-Procedure/Democratic-National-Committee-v-Republican-National-Committee/10/201975


27 posted on 05/24/2013 2:54:56 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Whenifhow
“Voter fraud does exist, but it’s not an epidemic,” he said. “No amount of fraud is acceptable, and if you cheat, you will be caught, and you will be held accountable.”

Oh please! A lot of people reported signs of large-scale fraud taking place at early voting sites. NOTHING was done about it, as far as I know, by either party or county/state officials. When it isn't legal to pull out your phone and snap pics or take video of poll workers engaging in suspect activities, how is it supposed to be reliably documented for further investigation? IMHO there is too little poll worker accountability.

After the things I saw going on inside the building last November, it isn't the voters who vote more than once that concern me; it's poll workers. I don't have the answer but there HAS to be a way to make them more accountable and less able to intimidate and interfere without consequence.

28 posted on 05/24/2013 3:07:51 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: carriage_hill

Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee

http://judicialview.com/Court-Cases/Civil-Procedure/Democratic-National-Committee-v-Republican-National-Committee/10/201975
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I read about this agreement the RNC made last fall.
While we may not have that option - there are local board of elections offices - maybe ask questions there?


29 posted on 05/24/2013 3:11:56 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: PeevedPatriot

...it isn’t the voters who vote more than once that concern me; it’s poll workers. I don’t have the answer but there HAS to be a way to make them more accountable and less able to intimidate and interfere without consequence.

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Agreed! There has to be a way. Since they decided to put surveillance cameras everywhere, why not in the polling place? It would be interesting to find out what is already on the books in local areas.

Other than that - you can become a poll worker if you have the time off work.


30 posted on 05/24/2013 3:17:36 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

In Illinois how it works is that if you don’t vote, a poll worker simply votes for you.

If we were to start sending “voter receipts” to voters after the election, I think many people who didn’t vote would be surprised that they actually voted after all.


31 posted on 05/24/2013 3:31:55 PM PDT by TruthBeforeAll
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To: TruthBeforeAll; PeevedPatriot; carriage_hill

In Illinois how it works is that if you don’t vote, a poll worker simply votes for you.
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well now - isn’t that something!??

Voter receipt - that is concept I haven’t heard before.

That Immigration bill has biometric National ID in it.
Perhaps that would cut down on voter fraud - only those with that National ID can vote in their name.


32 posted on 05/24/2013 3:35:48 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: TruthBeforeAll

One solution would be to have poll workers vote immediately upon arrival and not be allowed back in the booths after that.


33 posted on 05/24/2013 3:35:51 PM PDT by TruthBeforeAll
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To: Whenifhow
AFIK, it's illegal to take pics/vid anywhere inside an Ohio polling station. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I wouldn't be a poll worker at that place unless I could take a bodyguard! Too many union thugs.
34 posted on 05/24/2013 3:53:21 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: Whenifhow
only those with that National ID can vote in their name.

Might cut down on double voters and deceased voters if poll workers really insist on the ID. How would it affect absentee ballot fraud though? Doesn't address machine tampering or those boxes of ballots that go missing or materialize out of thin air.

35 posted on 05/24/2013 4:08:21 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: PeevedPatriot; TruthBeforeAll

Not sure how the National ID would work in certain places. I have always shown ID to vote in Ohio.

As for absentee and early voting - that’s a good question - and machine tampering too.

The suggestion made here seems reasonable.

” having poll workers vote immediately upon arrival and not be allowed back in the booths after that”

It would be good to find out how it works in your local area and find the websites like true the vote and black box voting to learn more.


36 posted on 05/24/2013 4:29:48 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
I always showed ID too, until this last November.

I like the concept of keeping poll workers away from the voting area. How could it be enforced? Who would have authority to do anything if the worker disobeyed? Who would assist voters who need help after entering the booth? Who would set up touch screen machines to accept the next voter? If someone drafted a bill that makes this both workable and enforceable I'd be working my buns off to help it pass!

37 posted on 05/24/2013 5:20:43 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: Whenifhow

Is there really any provable credibility to this?

http://www.libertynews.com/2013/05/voter-fraud-alert-did-you-know-that-25-percent-of-ohio-voters-dont-actually-exist/

25% of the Voters in Ohio don’t exist? I can’t beleive this?

http://www.libertynews.com/2013/05/does-eric-holder-really-think-twenty-five-percent-ohio-voter-fraud-is-a-civil-right/


38 posted on 05/30/2013 1:08:54 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 can we make it until 2016?)
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To: ncfool

It was reported during or directly after the election that there were some irregularities. Specifically, I recall that Democrats took buses of high school students to the polls.

I also recall that there was a large group of Somalians taken to the polls, who did not speak or write English.

But I don’t think that 25% of Ohio voters do not exist. That percentage seems high, it could be a significant number, however.

For every voter that is caught in voter fraud there are more that are not caught in my opinion.

As far as the DOJ interfering in efforts to purge the voting rolls, that was another type of targeting by the DOJ, in my opinion.

And further down in the article it mentioned that the DOJ targeted specific municipalities in elections. That action taken should be reviewed by someone who has a better understanding of voter law than I, but it deserves to be investigated given the current scandal-gate environment.


39 posted on 05/30/2013 2:45:23 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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