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Judge rules against Arizona sheriff in racial profiling suit
Yahoo News (Reuters) ^ | 5/24/2013

Posted on 05/24/2013 4:34:30 PM PDT by South40

PHOENIX (Reuters) - A federal judge on Friday found hardline Arizona lawman Joe Arpaio had violated the constitutional rights of Latino drivers in his crackdown on illegal immigration, and ordered him to stop using race as a factor in law enforcement decisions.

The ruling against the Maricopa County sheriff came in response to a class-action lawsuit brought by Hispanic drivers that tested whether police can target illegal immigrants without racially profiling Hispanic citizens and legal residents.

U.S. District Court Judge Murray Snow ruled that the sheriff's policies violated the drivers' constitutional rights and ordered his office to cease using race or ancestry as a grounds to stop, detain or hold occupants of vehicles - some of them in crime sweeps dubbed "saturation patrols."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; illegalaliens; naturalborncitizen
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1 posted on 05/24/2013 4:34:30 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40
However, it is perfectly fine to profile Tea Partiers, especially if you are the IRS.
2 posted on 05/24/2013 4:35:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the sexual deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: South40
Joe should pay as much attention to this as Ubama does to enforcing federal immigration law.
3 posted on 05/24/2013 4:36:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the sexual deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: South40

I wonder what the judge would do if Sheriff Joe pulled an Obama and said, we respectfully disagree and did it anyway.

Or we believe we will win at the supreme court and were going to continue.


4 posted on 05/24/2013 4:36:43 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: South40

Does a federal judge have any authority to order a Sheriff around?


5 posted on 05/24/2013 4:37:33 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: South40

So pull them over for a busted tail light, improper lane change, radio too loud, whatever.


6 posted on 05/24/2013 4:37:43 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: South40

And by golly don’t pull over people with two eyes and a nose either. Sheriff Joe, you’re not fooling us!

He’s in a border state whose illegal immigrant base is made up of probably 95% + Mexican nationals. So what’s he supposed to do?

This is like civil war when we’ve surrendered and they other side is still firing cannons.


7 posted on 05/24/2013 4:39:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: jeffc

That is what they do here in Georgia.

So pull them over for a busted tail light, improper lane change, or whatever.


8 posted on 05/24/2013 4:39:18 PM PDT by Dacula
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To: jeffc

Your records would probably betray this.

Hey do you realize you pulled over 62% Hispanics on tail light infractions?

Yes, but our Hispanic populace is 72.3%

That doesn’t matter. We’re on to you Sheriff.


9 posted on 05/24/2013 4:40:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: South40
Everytime I see one of those “click it or ticket” TV spots, the offending person is usually a white male.
10 posted on 05/24/2013 4:40:58 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: Cicero
Does a federal judge have any authority to order a Sheriff around?

That's an interesting question.

11 posted on 05/24/2013 4:41:34 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: DoughtyOne

Thank you GB

Snow was nominated by President George W. Bush on December 11, 2007, to a seat vacated by Stephen M. McNamee. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on June 26, 2008, and received his commission on July 23, 2008.


12 posted on 05/24/2013 4:43:36 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: South40

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Murray_Snow

“Snow was born in Boulder City, Nevada. He received a Bachelor of Arts degree from Brigham Young University (BYU) in 1984” and “Appointed by George W. Bush”


13 posted on 05/24/2013 4:46:04 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

14 posted on 05/24/2013 4:47:50 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: crosslink

All he needs is probable cause!

Is 30 mexicans in a 10 passenger van probable cause?


15 posted on 05/24/2013 4:47:58 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: South40

Joe, tell the communists judge to go to pound sand!


16 posted on 05/24/2013 4:48:54 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Conserev1

That would do it.


17 posted on 05/24/2013 4:48:55 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: South40

So “Judge Penispumper”, just how are the sheriff deputies supposed to stop drunken “Hispanic” drivers without being “unconstitutional”? Any suggestions?


18 posted on 05/24/2013 4:49:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: crosslink

I pile on Bush a lot. In this instance I think his infraction was appointing or relying on the wrong people to do his research as to who would be a sound judicial pick.

He hasn’t got the time to do this himself. Even Reagan had some of the same problems. It has been my take that his staff wasn’t always as in tune with his policies as even he would have liked.

While Bush may be a victim of the same thing, I still don’t think Bush was a died in the wool Conservative. May have a been a nice guy, but he was just lost on some subjects.

For you and I, the Conservative mantra pretty much spews when a subject comes up. With Bush, he had to sit back and think about it, and then he still got it wrong all too often. That’s not good.


19 posted on 05/24/2013 4:51:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Affirmative action in reverse...


20 posted on 05/24/2013 4:52:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

We like to refer to it as affirmative inaction.


21 posted on 05/24/2013 4:53:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree, who was his chief of staff , that is the person at fault. my guess is this guy may have been recommended by John Mcpain.


22 posted on 05/24/2013 4:54:16 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink

Oh, you don’t mean it... LOL


23 posted on 05/24/2013 4:59:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: South40

Sheriff joe response Sprechen Sie Englisch? Nein? Sehr Gut! You are under arrest! See they could not speak English, so I arrested them. ( in fine print Joe could ask in Navajo too). english is just derived from a Germanic language so he is actually asking in English.


24 posted on 05/24/2013 5:03:18 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: DoughtyOne
I think DUI check point stops are legal....They check everybody...
25 posted on 05/24/2013 5:06:21 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: South40
I have to wonder if there's any relation in this ruling to the upcoming revelations by the Cold Case Posse.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/3021750/posts

26 posted on 05/24/2013 5:15:22 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: ConservativeStatement
Everytime I see one of those “click it or ticket” TV spots, the offending person is usually a white male.

Chris Rock -- how not to get your a** kicked by the police

A rare true funny bit and of course, NSFW.

27 posted on 05/24/2013 5:18:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: DoughtyOne
You've got it exactly.
28 posted on 05/24/2013 5:22:56 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Hojczyk; DoughtyOne
I think DUI check point stops are legal....They check everybody...

Hence, considerations about race trump probable cause. Now, where is that in the Constitution???

29 posted on 05/24/2013 5:25:50 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: South40; justiceseeker93; null and void

His father was Mormon bishop, Karl Stanton Snow. How many of Snow’s relatives fled to Mexico because they were polygamists?

Sounds like a conflict of interest to me!


30 posted on 05/24/2013 5:30:38 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Carry_Okie

I think you can stop anyone with probable cause...not sure what a saturation patrol is??


31 posted on 05/24/2013 5:35:52 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
I think you can stop anyone with probable cause..

Stopping everyone is proof that the authorities don't have it.

32 posted on 05/24/2013 5:41:06 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: South40; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; John Semmens; Hildy; theothercheek; Arizona Carolyn; LucyT; ...

There was no claim by the plaintiffs in this suit for monetary damages. Their main thrust in this suit could have been to tar Arpaio with a tag of “racist” so as to weaken and divert attention away from Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse’s pending report on Obama’s birth certificate, which could cast more doubt on Obama’s constitutional eligibility for the presidency and could lead to criminal charges of fraud against some of his henchmen.


33 posted on 05/24/2013 5:54:38 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: South40

Sheriff should send out his posse targeting that judges car. Stop him numerous times to show they’re not profiling.


34 posted on 05/24/2013 5:57:57 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Menehune56; All
I have to wonder if there's any relation in this ruling to the upcoming revelations by the Cold Case Posse.

Agreed. Please see my post # 33.

35 posted on 05/24/2013 5:59:01 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: McGavin999

Lack of standing!


36 posted on 05/24/2013 6:09:28 PM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: South40

“A federal judge “

nuf said


37 posted on 05/24/2013 6:16:18 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots
Judge Murray Snow was nominated by President George W. Bush.

nuff said

38 posted on 05/24/2013 6:21:54 PM PDT by South40
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Secure our borders - Defend our Constitution!
Uphold your Oath!

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Stand with Free Republic.

39 posted on 05/24/2013 6:22:00 PM PDT by RedMDer (You are Free Republic. There are no outside influences. Just us, all of us. Please donate today!)
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To: South40

Let’s profile his honor and see if minority defendants are treated differently from others.


40 posted on 05/24/2013 6:28:39 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: South40

The end is near. Cross your fingers and hope, hope, hope.


41 posted on 05/24/2013 6:28:47 PM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: justiceseeker93
So?.....When is Arapio going to act on this information. Or?...Is he going to sit on it until it is too late?
42 posted on 05/24/2013 6:34:29 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Hojczyk

I have never liked the ‘let me see your papers’ aspect of check-point stops. It wreaks of a totalitarian state. We’ve had them in my state for the last 35 years that I know of.

Make the penalty as stiff as you want for folks who are caught, but don’t make everyone prove they’re not guilty by having to stop for no reason at all.

I know a lot of folks will disagree with me on this.


43 posted on 05/24/2013 6:44:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: Carry_Okie

Thank you.


44 posted on 05/24/2013 6:44:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: Carry_Okie

I think you’ll find it if you head out for the second star to the right, and keep going straight until morning...


45 posted on 05/24/2013 6:48:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: South40
"Hispanic" - even when capitalized - is not a race.

At best, it's a linguistic group.

Arpaiao can use lack of knowledge of English as probable cause to investigate. Turns out the guy is a LPR, no problems.

Or if he has a valid passport and visa.

Otherwise...problems.

The judge is a moron. And any decent attorney can bury his decision.

Invasion is not a civil right.

46 posted on 05/24/2013 6:55:26 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: justiceseeker93

Actually, liberals have hated Arpaio for years. And I don’t believe for a moment that they are pulling people over based on appearance. My Filipino-born son can very easily pass for a Mexican, but he has never been targeted for anything. Of course, maybe that is because he has a license and speaks English and doesn’t drive around with three times as many passengers as seats...


47 posted on 05/24/2013 6:59:08 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: South40

Profiling by sheriff forces declared illegal, so what about IRS (Intimidation Revenue Service) profiling?


48 posted on 05/24/2013 6:59:28 PM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44)
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To: McGavin999

Sheriff.... a name over a thousand years old,,,first American Sheriff in Virginia in 1620.


49 posted on 05/24/2013 7:06:38 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: South40

This is probably the critical part of the ruling, thanks to Obama:

“Until December 2011, the MCSO operated under the erroneous assumption that being an unauthorized alien in this country established a criminal violation of federal immigration law which the MCSO was entitled to enforce without 287(g) authorization. However, in the absence of additional facts, being within the country without authorization is not, in and of itself, a federal criminal offense.”

Looks like the ruling is based on Obama’s refusal to enforce out borders...

http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/arpaio_decision.pdf


50 posted on 05/24/2013 7:07:45 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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