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Judge rules against Arizona sheriff in racial profiling suit
Yahoo News (Reuters) ^ | 5/24/2013

Posted on 05/24/2013 4:34:30 PM PDT by South40

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To: South40

The ruling.

http://media.phoenixnewtimes.com/8826674.0.pdf

At a quick read “...ICE has since revoked the MCSO’s 287(g) authority...” seems to be the heart of it.
County probably can’t afford to appeal... it looks like Obama and Holder “got” him.


51 posted on 05/24/2013 7:10:59 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Mr Rogers

Well put- and faster too!


52 posted on 05/24/2013 7:12:48 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Zippy and Holder claim to be using “discretion” in deciding what to prosecute. Should be good enough for Sheriff Joe, too.


53 posted on 05/24/2013 7:22:00 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: South40

Obama’s IRS profiles Conservatives, proving that Profiling is the Law of the Land.


54 posted on 05/24/2013 7:26:04 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: DoughtyOne
While Bush may be a victim of the same thing, I still don’t think Bush was a died in the wool Conservative.

He comes from a political dynasty that's relied on Big Government for generations. Maybe he appointed a pro illegal alien, hispandering person in his own image.

55 posted on 05/24/2013 7:28:14 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Huskerfan44
Profiling by sheriff forces declared illegal, so what about IRS (Intimidation Revenue Service) profiling?

They can target anyone they want as long as they aren't illegal aliens, Hispanics, sexual deviants, or Democrats. Sorry if some of those groups overlap.

56 posted on 05/24/2013 7:34:17 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: South40

Gee, I guess all those crime-perpetrating Arizona Amish are safe now from Arpaio’s “profiling”.

Since the majority of criminals in Arizona are Hispanic, I think the situation is way beyond “profiling”. It is the equivalent of spitting in the room at Bill Ayer’s house where Obama got the nod for an Illinois Senate run, and NOT hitting a communist. Wasn’t going to happen.

Meanwhile, all the Amish in the world are heading for Arizona where they will be safe from Arpaio and the law.


57 posted on 05/24/2013 7:38:57 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: generally

Sheriff Joe another pet project of Obama and Holder, something Pelosi said , just pull things out thin air


58 posted on 05/24/2013 8:09:18 PM PDT by molson209
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks South40.


59 posted on 05/24/2013 8:30:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: South40

Lets see.....the majority of ILLEGALS are from Mexico and are HISPANIC.

And just like with the majority of terrorists being Muslim....you’re pretty freakin stupid if you DON’T racial profile. It’s common sense.

But of course, Arpaio is going after Obama for being an ILLEGAL MUSLIM himself, so go figure the Feds on the left are trying to discredit him.


60 posted on 05/24/2013 8:56:16 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: justiceseeker93

Considering all the recent revelations that the Obama regime unfairly targets the Tea party, religious, the AP and FOX news reporters, this could be an opportunity to make the case that the lawsuit against Arpaio may be retaliation by the Obama DOJ for Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse criminal investigation that proves Obama’s birth certificate posted at the White House web site is an indisputable fake.

Strike while the iron is hot folks. Wherever this Arpaio story is posted, refer readers to ORYR or your own favorite videos and websites that show Obama is a fraud.


61 posted on 05/24/2013 8:57:16 PM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: South40

What race are Hispanics?


62 posted on 05/24/2013 9:05:38 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: South40

Never heard of him. I’m convinced some of these judges do crap like this just to make a name for themselves and become darlings of the left. Better that than nobody’s darling, I guess. Who knows, maybe someday it’ll turn into a SCOTUS appointment for him. Got whore written all over him.


63 posted on 05/24/2013 9:08:31 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: crosslink

The #1 factor in a District level nomination is the recommendation of the senior Senator of that district.
The #2 factor is the recommendation of the junior Senator.
#3 is the opinion of the President...


64 posted on 05/24/2013 9:25:05 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: South40

I wonder if a jury trial would have had a different finding? Sheriff always seems to have plenty of supporters.


65 posted on 05/24/2013 9:56:38 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Mr Rogers
However, in the absence of additional facts, being within the country without authorization is not, in and of itself, a federal criminal offense.”

(shrug) How about a state criminal offense?

66 posted on 05/24/2013 10:01:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: South40

Did AZ argue that they were racial profiling and that its constitutional??


67 posted on 05/24/2013 10:12:25 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: South40

Did AZ argue that they were racial profiling and that its constitutional??


68 posted on 05/24/2013 10:12:26 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: South40

The judge, Murray Snow is a Mormon lackey who did his missionary 2 years in Latin America and speaks fluent Spanish. The LDS is 100% behind amnesty, and was also behind the recall and defeat of DB1070 author Russell Pearce 2 years ago. Snow’s ruling was a disgusting display of reverse racism - giving special immunity from prosecution for so-called “Latinos”, which is a non-existent term.


69 posted on 05/24/2013 10:23:19 PM PDT by montag813
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To: ConservativeStatement

I’ve seen two with white females. I don’t recall any with a black, Hispanic, etc. driver.


70 posted on 05/25/2013 1:53:07 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Lancey Howard

The state tried. It is being told it cannot make immigration a state crime.


71 posted on 05/25/2013 4:32:07 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

He will.


72 posted on 05/25/2013 5:13:27 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: DoughtyOne

The fact that GW turned on the Swift Boat Vets confused me but later when he let RINO Mack and Dem Breaux squander Tax Reform, I knew then that Bush was completely controlled by his father and his liberal wife.

The Bush family is part of the NWO and the US Aristocracy. They have deep ties to the CIA and all the international trade and off book banking (private placement) controlled therefrom. They are world citizens first, Americans second; same as Obama.


73 posted on 05/25/2013 6:50:54 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Well, I agree with you.

I find it even more amazing that if you decide to turn off before the check point, then that is grounds for pulling you over. Couldn’t your decision to turn around simply be to avoid the delay?

Not in a police state.

(Note I have never been ticketed at a check point. Just harassed. Cops have trouble with lap belts w/o shoulder harnesses in a 1975 van. It usually takes a sergeant to tell them it’s okay. They also profile motorcyclists. If it’s just a seat belt check and let cars go through slowly, they always stop me to check my papers.)


74 posted on 05/25/2013 7:12:54 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: South40


75 posted on 05/25/2013 7:31:47 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Regulator

Joe can use his “sweeps” resources to go after ID fraud Identity theft ALL DAY LONG. This is where the action is. Since you are going after illegal hiring and the buisinesses will be the “target”...great legal firewall.Let them drive and focus on this instead. Double the sweeps in this area. THIS MAKES THEM NUTS as it racks up felonies and if the traitors pass amnesty they can’t be included.


76 posted on 05/25/2013 8:25:16 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: South40
what's Ubama's take on this one?
77 posted on 05/25/2013 8:40:40 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: South40

I Live in Southern CA. A few weeks ago my Boss’s 8 Month Pregnant Daughter was rear ended by a “suspected” Illegal Alien.

With her in the Car were her 3 year old daughter and her Mother, my Boss’s Wife. His Wife ended up with a Concussion and is being tested for other Neurological problems.

Let’s see. The guy had no Driver’s License, he was driving a borrowed Car and could not show any proof of Insurance.

The Police let him walk away after interviewing him.

Welcome to America, where the Government targets U.S. Citizens and treats Illegal Invaders like a Protected Class.


78 posted on 05/25/2013 8:49:27 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (America has a two Party system, the Tea Party and the Communist Party.)
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To: Moonman62

Sure seems like it.


79 posted on 05/25/2013 9:08:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: Hostage

Ultimately, I agree. It’s sad really, but none the less true.

Here’s a family that should be thankful for all that the U. S. had to offer, and instead of protecting it for future generations, they went the globalist route.

It’s really an American tragedy.


80 posted on 05/25/2013 9:11:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: OA5599

I’ve never been ticketed in one either. That doesn’t stop the ‘Papers please’.

Feels like check-point Charlie.


81 posted on 05/25/2013 9:13:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: crosslink

Snow was nominated by President George W. Bush

What a shock!


82 posted on 05/25/2013 10:02:19 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: chris37

Sheriff Joe has given us more reasons for us to trust him than any judge who was once a lawyer. Most judges at the state level are already politically corrupt. “Good judges stay bought” so we know what that means when they rise to “higher” offices and rule FOR the government.


83 posted on 05/25/2013 11:04:41 AM PDT by Rapscallion (In Benghazi they died; Obama, Clinton and Rice lied. God may forgive. I do not.)
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To: Rapscallion

Yep. I love Sheriff Joe.

I have no doubt whatsoever that this ruling came from a corrupt statist judge.

And were I the Sheriff, I’d be very tempted to do just as Obama has done and see what exactly this judge would be willing to do to actually enforce his ruling, because if a court does nothing to enforce its rulings, why obey them? As Obama has shown.

Of course, I expect this judge would go to the ends of the earth to enforce his ruling, whereas those courts that have had their ruling defied by Obama just kind of do nothing.


84 posted on 05/25/2013 11:12:33 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: DoughtyOne
May have a been a nice guy, but he was just lost on some subjects.

Puh-leaze! Bush knew exactly was he was doing. He and his entire family are hard core Globalists that have done everything in their power to undermine our Constitutional Republic and the future of this nation. If Bush could have gotten away with it he would have rounded up every Third-world illiterate he could find south of the border and ship them up here by cattle car.

This naivety among conservatives is downright dangerous and is the reason our country is in so much peril.

85 posted on 05/25/2013 11:28:14 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: South40

Ya think judges are afraid of IRS audits now?


86 posted on 05/25/2013 11:46:50 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (He thwarts the plans of the crafty so that their hands achieve no success...Job 5:12)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

That’s okay. I’m closer to your view than you think. There are still a lot of closet Bush supporters here. It’s not going to change their mind to get hit over the head with it, but mentioning it in a more non confrontational tone will wake them up so they won’t go all-in again for another globalist. At least I would hope not.

I regard the flooding of this nation with third worlders, to be the globalist tell. And so when I see our fair haired favorites going squishy on this one issue, it tells me volumes.

Folks must wake up and smell the stink-weeds when it comes to certain fair-haired favorites, political idols.


87 posted on 05/25/2013 11:56:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: DoughtyOne

It was already like that a century ago, once the robber barons’ economic conspiracies had outrun the law, and then bought up the law on the quiet so as to become the law. Government schooling **as we know it today** is a product of all that.


88 posted on 05/25/2013 11:57:08 AM PDT by Mmmike
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To: Mmmike

You know, when I was a kid I went to public schools for a few years. Back then they were truly healthy environments. They taught patriotism, good types of civics lessons, history, math..., they worked to turn out really great citizens. And I don’t mean the hoodwinked propagandized kind either.

Today these schools are cesspools. It’s a national disgrace.

Our federal government shouldn’t be involved, and for damn sure UNESCO shouldn’t be. UNESCO is the instigator of a lot of this subterfuge.


89 posted on 05/25/2013 12:02:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: South40

Have Federales investigators located the guy who mailed Sheriff Joe a bomb the week before the Boston bombing attack and 2 weeks before the “ricin letters” that we heard about?

Guess that was another “local crime story” that the MSM doesn’t cover.


90 posted on 05/25/2013 12:08:05 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: South40

Sheriff needs to pull the judge over and arrest him and put him in jail with a bunch of these thugs and let them gang rape his liberal tail a few times and he will see what he is allowing into the country.


91 posted on 05/25/2013 1:10:47 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: South40
How many Norwegians are crossing the Arizona border illegally?

The ruling by this "judge" is just insane.

92 posted on 05/25/2013 5:54:55 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: justiceseeker93
The word " Racism " or " Racists " is losing it's power and effect... most people yawn now when it is heard.


93 posted on 05/25/2013 6:34:25 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: South40

Sheriff Joe should use crime statistics to pick locations for the pullovers and then no judge could find him discriminatory.


94 posted on 05/25/2013 7:40:28 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Mr Rogers

The several states have rights and laws that are enforceable as well do they not?

State laws do not have to pass the same federal muster because they are state specific. If there are laws on the books in AZ that make it a crime to be undeclared (no proof of citizenship), then enforce them accordingly. Anyone who is here legitimately generally has either a valid state issued ID, insurance, visa, green card, etc... If people can’t handle following the laws of whatever state they’re in as a visitor, then they make themselves targets.

There are any number of ways to deal with this insipid ruling while still accomplishing the same goal of booting illegal alien invaders out of AZ should Arpaio decide to do so.

BTW... I’m pretty sure Arpaio is intelligent enough to figure this out on his own.


95 posted on 05/26/2013 10:52:59 AM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: jurroppi1

“If there are laws on the books in AZ that make it a crime to be undeclared (no proof of citizenship), then enforce them accordingly.”

That would be SB1070 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182#writing-11-182_OPINION_3), passed to make it a state crime to be here illegally. The Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional.

Personally, I think Arizona has every right to decide who is allowed in Arizona. I would be willing to trade higher immigration from Mexico in exchange for keeping Californians and anyone from the NE US out!


96 posted on 05/26/2013 11:01:55 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Mr Rogers

There are a ton of other state laws to enforce. Also, tell the Feds to enforce their ruling - what are they going to do, invade AZ?

I knew about that ruling, but I was being a bit tongue in cheek in my initial response.


97 posted on 05/26/2013 11:08:23 AM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Its Duck season. No, its Rabbit season.


98 posted on 05/26/2013 12:59:30 PM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: South40

All three branches of the Federal Government are hell-bent on starting another civil war.


99 posted on 05/26/2013 4:33:35 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Cicero
Does a federal judge have any authority to order a Sheriff around?

If he's violating the 14th Amendment, yes.

100 posted on 05/26/2013 6:36:57 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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