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In Benghazi - U.S. Military: We Could Have Saved Ambassador Stevens
The AMERICAN THINKER ^ | May 25, 2013 | Jonathon Moseley

Posted on 05/25/2013 4:26:22 AM PDT by Moseley

Elite U.S. troops were completely capable of saving Ambassador Chris Stevens during the Benghazi Consulate attacks on September 11, 2012. Elements of the highly specialized Combatant Commanders In-Extremis (CIF) units are always on alert, on forward deployment, ready to respond. Their job description is to hit the ground in 3 to 5 hours. CIF elements are ready to engage in active combat anywhere in their region, 3 to 5 hours after the call.

Leon Panetta, Secretary of Defense at the time, either misled the U.S. Congress or was incompetent. Panetta testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee on February 7, 2013 that the U.S. military could not have responded in less than 9 to 12 hours.

Obama's first secretary of defense, Robert Gates, told CBS's Face the Nation on May 12, 2013 that "[w]e don't have a ready force standing by" in that region.

But we absolutely do "have a ready force standing by" to reach any trouble spot in a few hours. Insider reports previously revealed that CIF elements were training in Croatia and could have been in Benghazi in three and a half hours.

Although rotating out of the United States, some CIF elements are always forward-deployed within each military command region, always on stand-by. Their training includes expertise within each local region. Some of each region's unit is always ready. They don't need to pack. Being ready to go -- immediately -- is their job description. It's the reason they exist.

The U.S. military has a range of capabilities, from CIF teams to the Navy SEALs, to Rangers, to Green Berets. But now many in the special forces/special operators community feel betrayed. Commanders in Extremis units are so highly trained and expert that even elite Green Berets wash out of highly demanding CIF training in large numbers.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazirescue; cif; gates; military; obama; paneta; panetta; rescue; specialforces
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1 posted on 05/25/2013 4:26:22 AM PDT by Moseley
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To: Moseley

I choose “incompetent” on Gates and mendacious, to boot, just like his boss, Zero.


2 posted on 05/25/2013 4:31:01 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

Crap...”Gates” = Panetta...more coffee!!!


3 posted on 05/25/2013 4:31:51 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Moseley

Will any of this information ever reach Mr and Mrs John Q. Low Information Voter?


4 posted on 05/25/2013 4:32:50 AM PDT by albie (s)
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To: Moseley
Leon Panetta: Obama Was Absent on Night of Benghazi
5 posted on 05/25/2013 4:33:07 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Moseley

The obama regime did not intend for Ambassador to be saved. He was not meant to be saved. That was the intention of the “attack” was to kill him. His usefulness was over and he knew too much as to where the bodies were buried to be allowed to go on living. obama’s worshipers and desciples should have gotten this message loud and clear but they do not have the intelligence. Instead they increase their adoration and worship of him.


6 posted on 05/25/2013 4:34:51 AM PDT by sport
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To: don-o

I we assume ( as I do) that Issa already knows who issued the STAND DOWN order, that tells us a lot about where this is going.


7 posted on 05/25/2013 4:35:20 AM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: Moseley

Meanwhile, the aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis and its battle group were within range to assist the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette was relieved of command and flown back to the States on undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment, as reported in the military’s Stripes magazine. It is widely believed within the U.S. military that Admiral Gaouette was mobilizing a response to come to the aid of Ambassador Stevens but was ordered to stand down. The allegation of “inappropriate judgment” was that Admiral Gaoutte insisted on mounting a rescue, leading to sharp words being exchanged.

Subpoena the Admiral


8 posted on 05/25/2013 4:35:51 AM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: Moseley

=====> Americans LEFT BEHIND.

The motto of the Obama Terrorist
Organization running the IRS, DO”J”,
And Pentagon for al Qaeda.


9 posted on 05/25/2013 4:36:33 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Moseley

=====> Americans LEFT BEHIND.

The motto of the Obama Terrorist
Organization running the IRS, DO”J”,
And Pentagon for al Qaeda.


10 posted on 05/25/2013 4:37:00 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Moseley

Given all the places there are in the world, why was a team stationed in Croatia of all places?


11 posted on 05/25/2013 4:37:55 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....Obama Denies Role in Government)
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To: albie

It may reach them, but they are too stupid to heed the message sent. In their case, they have lived their lives as fools,and when they die, they will die as fools. Still worshiping the ground obama pisses on.


12 posted on 05/25/2013 4:38:00 AM PDT by sport
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To: Moseley
Elite U.S. troops were completely capable of saving Ambassador Chris Stevens during the Benghazi Consulate attacks on September 11, 2012.

Highly unlikely.

Their job description is to hit the ground in 3 to 5 hours.

No doubt. However, from the first shots fired to the Ambassador's being being found was ~4 hours, with him being dead some unknown amount of time before this. So it seems very unlikely these particular guys could have been on the ground and in control of a chaotic situation quickly enough to prevent Stevens' death.

But of course nobody knew this at the time, and so it is utterly appalling that no attempt at rescue was made.

13 posted on 05/25/2013 4:44:06 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Moseley

If Bush had been in office they would be saying “Bush hates gay people”


14 posted on 05/25/2013 4:44:52 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Moseley; All
Linked thread at Five myths about Benghazi

That is a thread I started to compile Benghazi info. Pleas conrtibute to it

15 posted on 05/25/2013 4:51:01 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Moseley
PETER NOSE is incompetent.
Just like ALL of the minions working for the very incompetent ZERO & HITLERY.
He went from a community organizer (not even a good one) to President. . . . . I still can't believe it. . .
HITLERY went from the wife of a sexual predator to Senator then Security of State.
16 posted on 05/25/2013 4:51:59 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Time to demand that high end Government executives give back the money. If they can't remember. . .)
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To: albie

Even if it does..they will ignore it. It’s not how they make their decision to vote. Look at the demographics. That’s how he won. He won because he’s NOT white...he’s simply a dark mulatto.


17 posted on 05/25/2013 4:55:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TigersEye; penelopesire; ConservativeMan55; AllAmericanGirl44; Nachum; Jet Jaguar; maggief; onyx

I have written Dick Chenny throw this out last week when he said on one of the talk shows “ During our administration we had an elite group on call 24/7 they was based at Sigonella air base that could have responded”. He went on to say “ I don’t know if this admin has that same capability.

He threw is out right after Gates made his stupid statement. I have noted here the people who have testified never talk about NATO based forces.


18 posted on 05/25/2013 4:55:55 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Moseley
Panetta testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee on February 7, 2013 that the U.S. military could not have responded in less than 9 to 12 hours.

How did Panetta know the incident would be over in less than that period of time? How did he know the fight would last only 7 hours? --Panetta's testimony is complete BS (which is plenty good enough for the uninquisitive press corps).

19 posted on 05/25/2013 4:56:21 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Moseley

20 posted on 05/25/2013 4:58:19 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: crosslink

I heard Cheney say the same thing. They know the score with this traitorous regime. We need that great pic of Cheney staring down Obama on inaugural day....lol. Love that pic!

I am still praying that Petraeus comes out very soon to spill the beans...or General Ham...or both!


21 posted on 05/25/2013 5:05:23 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Moseley

All these forces not just available, but in the process of responding at the time, and all ordered to stand down. It’s not that we couldn’t respond or were asleep at the switch. Someone chose not to respond. It looks to me like Stevens was intentionally left to die, or as was surmised by others it was a setup for a hostage rescue scenario to boost O’s polls.


22 posted on 05/25/2013 5:08:58 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: crosslink

[Cheney] went on to say “ I don’t know if this admin has that same capability.

We absolutely do have the same capability now. I can’t say how I know.


23 posted on 05/25/2013 5:11:47 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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To: JoeProBono

24 posted on 05/25/2013 5:21:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Moseley
” either misled the U.S. Congress or was incompetent”

Stop with the “incompetent” nonsense. THEY DO THESE THINGS ON PURPOSE. While it may have been gun running, I still think it was to be a “fake” kidnapping of the ambassador gone wrong. (you just can't trust those terrorists). Then Obama would save the day by trading the blind sheik for ambassador Stevens. The American people could care less about some old blind guy, ready to kick the bucket anyway.

Oh, and by the way, it could have been both. The guns being the payment (bribe) to get them to go along with this scheme.

You don't want U.S. security around when you are committing treasonous acts. You certainly don't want Special Forces to swoop in and disrupt your plans.

So STOP with making excuses for the Obama regime. They know EXACTLY what they are doing. EVERYTHING they do is on purpose.

Is Obama the genius behind this grand scheme? Absolutely not. While he is a believer, he's just a puppet. Someone else is pulling all the strings.

25 posted on 05/25/2013 5:22:08 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: MestaMachine

ping


26 posted on 05/25/2013 5:26:36 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: Travis McGee

27 posted on 05/25/2013 5:33:22 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Moseley

It’s going to take the IRS a long time to audit the U.S. Military. They’ll have to hire a lot more armed thugs to do it. Headquarters should be Chicago since there are a lot of armed thugs available.


28 posted on 05/25/2013 5:36:08 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: penelopesire

Was General Ham relieved of command? I remember that he was. If so, why? I think the answer will tell us a lot about the treasonous Obama regime.

Appoligies for not searching for this info.
On a mobile device.


29 posted on 05/25/2013 5:43:19 AM PDT by RedMDer (You are Free Republic. There are no outside influences. Just us, all of us. Please donate today!)
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To: sport

“It may reach them, but they are too stupid to heed the message sent. In their case, they have lived their lives as fools,and when they die, they will die as fools. Still worshiping the ground obama pisses on.”

40% of American blacks have an IQ of 80 or below. Once they refused to learn in school(ask any teacher about this) and rejected religion and its restrictive Ten Commandments, their fate was sealed.

They have condemned themselves.


30 posted on 05/25/2013 5:44:22 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: RedMDer

The latest rumor making the rounds is that Barack Obama replaced General Carter Ham at AFRICOM after the general made a move to help the US security officials at the Benghazi consulate and annex. Ham was replaced by Gen. David Rodriquez on October 18.
Tiger Droppings reported:

The information I heard today was that General [Carter] Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africom.


31 posted on 05/25/2013 5:47:55 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

except General Ham was in the States on 9/11.


32 posted on 05/25/2013 5:50:20 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Bigtigermike

Thank you.


33 posted on 05/25/2013 5:54:59 AM PDT by RedMDer (You are Free Republic. There are no outside influences. Just us, all of us. Please donate today!)
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To: Moseley

Yes and Cheney also knew , hell he was sec def, he wanted to make sure he was not releasing anything that could blow back. He pointed Issa to the right place and I am assured that he got the message.


34 posted on 05/25/2013 5:55:50 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: petitfour

Where does it say that Ham was in Africa or the Mediterranean? It just says that he received the email and wanted to respond


35 posted on 05/25/2013 5:57:59 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

I read it in multiple stories around the time of the attack.


36 posted on 05/25/2013 6:02:44 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: JoeProBono
Incompetence is just the cover story.


37 posted on 05/25/2013 6:04:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Moseley

I wonder how many missiles were stock-piled at the annex waiting for shipment to who-knows-where that are now in the hands of the Ansar al-Shariah?


38 posted on 05/25/2013 6:07:52 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Travis McGee

BUMP


39 posted on 05/25/2013 6:08:59 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
Late in...but ping anyway.
40 posted on 05/25/2013 6:21:21 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: petitfour

Yes, he was in D.C. but he was still in charge of AFRICOM.


41 posted on 05/25/2013 6:27:36 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: bert
... why was a team stationed in Croatia ...

Probably there temporarily on some sort of joint/allied training, I would guess.

42 posted on 05/25/2013 6:54:49 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ken5050; vette6387; mazda77; Windflier; flat; gonzo; freekitty; MinuteGal; seekthetruth; ZULU; ...

In my opinion, Issa needs to find his nads ASAP. So, far, NADA and that goes for the entire GOP food chain.


43 posted on 05/25/2013 7:02:17 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: faucetman
You don't want U.S. security around when you are committing treasonous acts. You certainly don't want Special Forces to swoop in and disrupt your plans.

Your whole post is DFO (Dead ... On).

In the fullness of time, it may very well come to be seen that Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods are the incarnation of Lt. Johnny Dahlquist.

44 posted on 05/25/2013 7:20:25 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Moseley
If the entire idea is to trade the blind shieik for Stevens you don't want a ready force to save Stevens or anyone for that matter!!
45 posted on 05/25/2013 7:22:37 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: don-o

Here is where the true jeopardy lies for the regime/zero.Where was Waldo when the shot hit the fan!!


46 posted on 05/25/2013 7:25:29 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: faucetman

-Star Admiral James Lyons:
Obama Conspired with US Enemies and Staged Bogus Attack to Kidnap Ambassador and Negotiate Hostage Release Just Prior to Election

http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-scandal-that-will-bring-obama-down/


47 posted on 05/25/2013 7:27:13 AM PDT by bayouranger (How do you coexist with a neighbor who has the ethical choice of jihad of murder and deceit? -Dr.B.W)
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To: RedMDer

Yes..that was the rumor. He may have been forced into retirement ‘officially’. I agree..he holds the key...maybe the most important key.


48 posted on 05/25/2013 7:36:13 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: T-Bird45

I don’t think it was incompetence I think it was necessary collateral damage. They didn’t want the world to know what Stevens real job in Benghazi was.


49 posted on 05/25/2013 7:54:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Moseley

ping


50 posted on 05/25/2013 8:09:39 AM PDT by alrea
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